natc Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Wouldn't Shalash and Jezrien have similar complexions though? The woman suspected to be Shalash didn't really get a descriptor for skin tone like "Taln" did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansalem Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Wouldn't Shalash and Jezrien have similar complexions though? The woman suspected to be Shalash didn't really get a descriptor for skin tone like "Taln" did. Well, assuming Shallash is Baxil's mistress. Their mistress walked ahead of them, the only other person in the hallway. She wasn’t Emuli–she didn’t even seem Makabaki, though she had dark skin and long, beautiful black hair. She had eyes like a Shin, but she was tall and lean, like an Alethi. Av thought she was a mixed breed. Or so he said when they dared talk about such things. The mistress had good ears. Strangely good ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 I stand corrected. Been a while since I read that. Shin eyes though. "Taln" didn't have that, I think. And further implication thst she and the Heralds aren't Roshar native. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Feboris Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) Shalash's skin tone says: Their mistress walked ahead of them, the only other person in the hallway. She wasn't Emuli-she didn't even seem Makabaki, though she had dark skin and long, beautiful black hair. Pg 707 WoK Baxil Interlude Jezrien/"Taln" A single small window-more of a slit-proved insufficient to fully illuminate the large figure sitting on the bed. Dark-skinned, like a man from the Makabaki kingdoms, he had dark, ragged hair and hulking arms. Pg 762 WoR A Burning World I think there is a chance they could be related. EDIT: Typos Edited August 30, 2015 by CJ lidmk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoxicalZen Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) It could be possible, but we don't have physical descriptions for all the Heralds so I can't sure of exactly where each Herald possibly originates in Roshar or if their native ethnicities in ancient Roshar would even relate to that of Roshar of the current day Edited August 30, 2015 by ParadoxSpren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfa Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Hoid calls Taln "lost one". I believe, this fits better with Talenel than with Jezrien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamEternal Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Hoid calls Taln "lost one". I believe, this fits better with Talenel than with Jezrien. Again, if anyone other than Taln crashes into Kholinar saying they are Talenel'elin, the Stonesinew, and screams the time of the Desolation is nigh, they are quite storming lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoxicalZen Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) Interesting WoB I found http://www.theoryland.com/intvsresults.php?kwt='radiants' Number 3 Interview: Feb 28th, 2011 Reddit Fantasy Bookclub Q&A with Brandon Sanderson (Verbatim) gunslingers () The number 10 seems to be a recurring theme in this world. Are the Ten Fools the antithesis of the ten orders of the Knights Radiant? Have you ever killed off a character and later regretted it? When writing a battle scene in which thousands die do those deaths affect you in any way? Brandon Sanderson First Question: Yes, ten is a number of mythological import in the world. The Ten Fools are, essentially, the opposites of the Ten Heralds—who each represented an ideal. (Those ideals were later adopted by the orders of Knights Radiant, so yes, there is a connection—but there's a step between them.) As i said over in the Recreance topic, note that Brandon said the Heralds embody an ideal, not ideals. My idea is that the primary and secondary attributes for each Herald make up this Ideal, and if we could get Brandon to say what ideal each Herald represents, we could work out what the opposites are then look for characters displaying it. (Yeah i could be seeing darkfriends in shadows but it does make sense...sorta) Edited September 13, 2015 by ParadoxSpren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted September 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Could be. It's a little tenuous, but possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcalim Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Argent quick and to the point. Old post i know but wanted to say that i think The Ardent Dova fits your description of Vedeledev. She is in mr. Ts deathroom they send orders to her when he takes the kingship of jah keved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted January 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 It's possible, I guess. It's been a long time since I rethought this theory, and there have been some recent news that support and/or expand the idea. I am (slowly) listening to the Words of Radiance Graphic Audio adaptation, so I'll keep an eye (ear?) out for anything that makes Taravangian's ardent suspicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesomness Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 On 18/10/2013 at 8:06 AM, Argent said: Ishar He is supposed to be pious and guiding. His body focus is flesh. We have a reference to Ishar in Edgedancer: Spoiler "But..." said the male initiate. "Is it really ... I mean, shouldn't we want them to return, so we won't be the only order of Knights Radiant?" "Unfortunately, no," Darkness said. "I once thought as you, but Ishar made the truth clear to me. If the bonds between men and spren are reignited, then men will naturally discover the greater power of the oaths. Without Honor to regulate this, there is a small chance that what comes next will allow the Voidbringers to again make the jump between worlds. That would cause a Desolation... Absolute fidelity to the mission Ishar gave us - the greater law of protecting Roshar - is required." ..... "I saw them return," the assassin whispered. "the new storm, the red eyes. You are wrong, Nin-son-God. You are wrong." "A fluke," Darkness said, his voice firm. "I contacted Ishar, and he assured me it is so."....."You're wrong. So wrong...""The Voidbringers have not returned," Darkness said firmly. "Ishar has promised it, and he will not lie." He is guiding, but in a wrong (or impious) way. What would you make or it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted January 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 On 1/27/2017 at 8:15 PM, Awesomness said: We have a reference to Ishar in Edgedancer: Reveal hidden contents "But..." said the male initiate. "Is it really ... I mean, shouldn't we want them to return, so we won't be the only order of Knights Radiant?" "Unfortunately, no," Darkness said. "I once thought as you, but Ishar made the truth clear to me. If the bonds between men and spren are reignited, then men will naturally discover the greater power of the oaths. Without Honor to regulate this, there is a small chance that what comes next will allow the Voidbringers to again make the jump between worlds. That would cause a Desolation... Absolute fidelity to the mission Ishar gave us - the greater law of protecting Roshar - is required." ..... "I saw them return," the assassin whispered. "the new storm, the red eyes. You are wrong, Nin-son-God. You are wrong." "A fluke," Darkness said, his voice firm. "I contacted Ishar, and he assured me it is so."....."You're wrong. So wrong...""The Voidbringers have not returned," Darkness said firmly. "Ishar has promised it, and he will not lie." He is guiding, but in a wrong (or impious) way. What would you make or it? It fits well enough, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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