Popular Post karaokeang she/her Posted October 15, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) Hold on to your hats, I have information for you.First I just want to comment on how incredibly kind and cool Brandon is. It was my first time meeting him and it was definitely a highlight.On to the good stuff, Brandon confirmed all the radiant orders on my chart as being correct and in the right place. He also provided the name of Jasnah's order. He also gave me the correct name for the force we were calling heat and gave me the name of a new force. I am about to correct the chart and will be posting it shortly.Also worldsingers is not an order but he RAFOd Brightcallers as an order.I didn't get a chance to ask any other questions because we had a little bit of discussion around the chart and confirmed also that the Heralds are all correct too. Also we need Peter to make sure that we spelled Jasnah's order correct as we didn't get an official spelling from Brandon. One other thing is that he was entirely certain but there was discussion around the colors matching correctly to the orders on the chart too.ETA: So here is the chart in all it's glory. It includes information that is in the Steelhunt but the info also became available at the Beaverton signing so I am including it.2nd Edit: Typo and color matching too. 3rd Edit: Stonewardens to StonewardsThe chart has been updated per Peter's notes about it later in this thread. Please note that the Herald names are a mix of ancient, Vorin and just the number for the herald. Also note that the Surge names have not been finalized or canonized and are subject to change. Edited January 29, 2014 by karaokeang 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurkistan he/him Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Sweet. Can't wait for the details. Any other juicy answers pop to mind before you go about posting the whole mess? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent he/him Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Oh, you... I go to two signings, report over 30 (40?) questions and then you come along and steal my thunder! And the worst part? I am excited about it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Aztec Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Oh So heat is wrong then oh I am exited thn i will guess that it is SOUND because that is also aomething thatm ight be a thing and it makes sense for the skybreakers to have thunder with sound. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaokeang she/her Posted October 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Oh So heat is wrong then oh I am exited thn i will guess that it is SOUND because that is also aomething thatm ight be a thing and it makes sense for the skybreakers to have thunder with sound. It is actually Division which is very interesting! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Aztec Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 />It is actually Division which is very interesting! Oh No maths are not my thing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaokeang she/her Posted October 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Oh, you... I go to two signings, report over 30 (40?) questions and then you come along and steal my thunder! And the worst part? I am excited about it! I very much doubt that I stole your thunder! I didn't get to any of the other questions you guys had. I can't wait to hear from everyone else who was at the signing. Shardlet was sitting by Brandon recording everything so I bet we get tons of juicy details. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailliw73 he/him Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 So is it positive that it is Elscallers and not Elsecallers? I think the latter makes more sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaokeang she/her Posted October 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 So is it positive that it is Elscallers and not Elsecallers? I think the latter makes more sense. Not positive at all. We will need Peter to confirm and then I will update if needed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailliw73 he/him Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Ok. I just think the last one makes more sense because it would mean like calling elsewhere but just els means nothing to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurkistan he/him Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) Forgive the mild vulgarity, but hot damnation! Very very well done, karaok. Have another Rep on the house. EDIT: Just to confirm: Everything on the chart right now (besides possibly spelling) is 100% confirmed? Edited October 15, 2013 by Kurkistan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Aztec Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 So Brightcallers are RAFO I will guess that they are the center bottom because Light + Growth makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailliw73 he/him Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 I'm also now inclined to believe that Brightcallers is not an order as I don't think Brandon would name two orders so similarly, Brightcallers and Elsecallers. I do think that bright might still be the first part of the name of the fifth order 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaokeang she/her Posted October 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) Yes he confirmed everything but the spelling of else/elscallers. At first he got a little cagey about giving out any other information but then everyone started gathering around and listening so then he threw us a bone. Shardlet has the whole conversation recorded so we can review the conversation. Edited October 15, 2013 by karaokeang 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent he/him Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) Oh, this is exciting stuff! Of course Jasnah would be Transformation & Transportation - I would say that I called it, but I was only entertaining the thought (because of the "lightning scene" - Soulcasting at a distance). The Dustbringers will be an interesting one to think about, I need to reason it through at not-one-PM. Kalak's order will also be interesting. Surface Tension and Transportation - I wonder if that gives them teleportation. Probably. Palah is also a curious one, though I can't even begin to fathom what you would do with Growth and Light. Lightweavers weave the light, the appearance, the form of something to transform it into something else (though I fail to see how that differentiates from them from the Elsecallers). So, Palah's order manipulates the light, the shape of... living things? Could physical transformation be possible under Surgebinding? Her essence is pulp, after all... What else... Stonewards have Surface Tension. That should give them the wards aspect. So the other surge should be related to stone, earth, stability, weight, something like that. Strength? Really (physically) powerful warriors who augment their physical attributes with Surgebinding? EDIT #1: Heh. If the Stonewards' second surge turns out to be something like "weight," I am calling Ishar's Gravity + Weight order the Fatties EDIT #2: Stormfather, Ishar's essence is flesh! Edited October 15, 2013 by Argent 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Aztec Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Could It be they are ELSE SCHOLARS and not ELSE CALLERS because Jasnath is a scholar so that would be an order that fit her. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurkistan he/him Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) There's no need for Lightweavers to use that surge for their Soulcasting, Argent. Szeth doesn't use Pressure to do a Basic Lashing, after all. Edited October 15, 2013 by Kurkistan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent he/him Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 @Kurkistan, right, I was poking holes in my own ship. @Aztec, that's a good call - especially considering that Jasnah doesn't exactly call anything; her Soulcasting-at-a-distance is more of a sending than calling. Although Elsescholars doesn't really roll off the tongue... But it also makes sense, because the only pseudo-member we know of is not exactly interested in mainstream scholarship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailliw73 he/him Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Else scholars is a good idea. Then Brightcallers would still work, hmm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windrunner he/him Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 I think it's probably Elsecallers. I'm intrigued by the tenth Surge that Brandon chose not to reveal... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cem he/him Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Awesome job karaokeang. So we only have one Surge and three Orders left. By the way, did Brandon confirm Light and Growth are the correct name for Surges? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaokeang she/her Posted October 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) Awesome job karaokeang. So we only have one Surge and three Orders left. By the way, did Brandon confirm Light and Growth are the correct name for Surges? He did not correct those but he took the time to correct heat and was nodding as I was reading. He also corrected Travel to Transportation so I am almost absolutely positive those are correct. Edited October 15, 2013 by karaokeang 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cem he/him Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Okay, thank you. I honestly thought Growth would have a different name but I guess that's not going to happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkarma he/him Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 I can't wait to listen to this. Now I'm going to have to go to the NYC signing... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natans he/him Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 =) Perfect 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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