Kobold King he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 We don't really see it much in canon, though, either. I also like the idea of an overlord who can't have his people hate him, but the canon weaknesses we see aren't this easy to set off. Something like compliments or smoke can be triggered pretty easily, but they're things that are possible to get rid of. Even Steelheart could ensure someone like David's father never set off his weakness again. With this weakness, it's almost guaranteed that with someone like Sam, any attempt to make those people like him will only increase their hatred, leaving killing them as his only recourse, ensuring more and more people will hate him as he struggles with damage control. I'd say Nightwielder has a pretty simple weakness, but he has the benefit of having a power that neutralizes it... * LE GASP * What if Matthew had some sort of power that also protects him from his weakness, like Nightwielder? Like an ability to "numb" people around him, making it impossible for them to feel strong emotions about him?
Mestiv he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) Or an ability to conjure cake out of thin air who would hate someone who creates cake Edited July 20, 2015 by Mestiv 4
Kobold King he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 O an ability to conjure cake out of thin air who would hate someone who creates cake Hmm. You've gotta point. (Have you read anything about Doctor Funtimes yet? )
Edgedancer he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Hmm. You've gotta point. (Have you read anything about Doctor Funtimes yet? ) Would cake be enough to get Sam around? First part of VondraXObliteration plus Minions up. You guys take it from there. 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 20, 2015 Author Posted July 20, 2015 Or an ability to conjure cake out of thin air who would hate someone who creates cake Yes! Something to protect him from his own weakness is precisely what he needs! Be it cake or emotional numbing or something entirely different, a protection power would help enormously. Off to read about Vondra's Minions, brb. 1
Edgedancer he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Yes! Something to protect him from his own weakness is precisely what he needs! Be it cake or emotional numbing or something entirely different, a protection power would help enormously. Off to read about Vondra's Minions, brb. Yeah, although numbining emotions itself wouldn't work beccause the people he would need to use it on would be his weakness and as such immune to the power.
Kobold King he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Yeah, although numbining emotions itself wouldn't work beccause the people he would need to use it on would be his weakness and as such immune to the power. If it works on a large scale that power would be immune to his weakness, just like sunlight didn't punch through Nightwielder's shield. Loved the WHOOC, by the way.
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 20, 2015 Author Posted July 20, 2015 Yeah, although numbining emotions itself wouldn't work beccause the people he would need to use it on would be his weakness and as such immune to the power. True. Back to the cake idea, I suppose? I'll try and think of a more viable idea. Also, you really should put a warning on that WHOOC. I'm at work and my giggle fit upon reading the last line was most unprofessional.
Edgedancer he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) If it works on a large scale that power would be immune to his weakness, just like sunlight didn't punch through Nightwielder's shield. Loved the WHOOC, by the way. Ah yes, you are indeed right. Excuse me for a bit while I go grumble about handwaves. Thank you kindly. True. Back to the cake idea, I suppose? I'll try and think of a more viable idea. Also, you really should put a warning on that WHOOC. I'm at work and my giggle fit upon reading the last line was most unprofessional. I am sorry. Should the disclaimer go into my profile feed? Edited July 20, 2015 by Edgedancer
Kobold King he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Ah yes, you are indeed right. Excuse me for a bit while I go grumble about handwaves. Woohoo! I finally remembered an obscure technicality that Edgedancer missed! 2
Mestiv he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) I think the cake power will stay for the sheer fun but also maybe... Let's say we can measure in numbers how much someone likes him. -100 is pure hatered, 0 neutral and 100 is love. Lets give him power called possitive vibrations that would slowly bring people to level 10 of liking him if they are below that level. That way, someone who hates him has a chance to kill him, but if they're not fast enough and stays close, they'll stop hating him. Edited July 20, 2015 by Mestiv 2
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 20, 2015 Author Posted July 20, 2015 I am sorry. Should the disclaimer go into my profile feed? That would be best, yes.
Edgedancer he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Woohoo! I finally remembered an obscure technicality that Edgedancer missed! It's less that I don't remember it and more that I don't want to remember it but sure bask in the glory. You've earned it. 1
Comatose he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I just happened to wonder how Regalia would get along with our female overlords, Lucentia and Rainmaker. Twi, as the president of the "Regalia's only reason for not kicking puppies is that she can't kick things" club, what do you think? I've been wondering about this too. When I was coming up with Rainmaker, I was actually thinking it could have been cool for her to have met Regalia in the past, and that the two might be bitter enemies now. I didn't go forward with the idea, because I didn't want to do all of the work it would take to make it plausible, but I'd see them clashing, I think. Also, a battle between them (or between either of them and Lucentia) would be pretty cool! Hello everyone I'd like to join you in the RPG game, so following the rules first I'd like to consult you and introduce the character I want to add Type: High Epic (but with very simple weakness) Name: Matthew Archerfish - faked name he uses in USA, because Americans have trouble with pronouncing his real name. Age: 26 Height: 182cm (no idea how many foots/inches whatever that is ) Weight: ~80kg (no idea how many pounds that is) Looks: Short blond hair, blue eyes, quite fit body type. Likes comfortable and functional clothing and avoids standing out. Powers: Main power: absolute invulnerability - Matthew is immune to anything that may harm him and to other Epics powers. He won't starve, won't suffocate etc. No matter if he knows about the danger or not, it won't harm him. You just can't do anything negative to him. Just being immune, resisting damage, does not turn him hostile on the epic-mechanics level, but he still fills pain to some degree, so normal human reactions take place. Secondary power: telekinesis - He can use quite powerful telekinetic abilities, the most damage he was able to do so far was bringing down a middle sized building by crushing all the walls on the first floor. When putting his mind to it he can squeeze a car to the size of a dice. He can use his telekinesis to fly. Tertiary power: slightly increased reflex and dexterity. Nothing a well trained non-epic wouldn't be able to achieve. Weakness: Matthew can be hurt by anyone who: 1. Knows him. Either by personal interaction or hearing a lot about him. and... 2. Who has at least a bit logical reason to hate him. This weakness makes him pretty vulnerable to both Epics and normal people. This is also the reason he avoids using his telekinesis ability - he doesn't want anyone to have a reason to hate him. History: Shortly after graduating from Warsaw University (Poland) (he studied IT) he migrated to USA to work for one of the big IT companies. He managed to work for about 2 month before Calamity appeared on the skies. After Epics begun to appear all over the world Matthew became one as well. During his Rendering he destroyed his work place and killed many of his colleagues. When he calmed down a bit, he escaped away from civilization for some time in fear of people that knew him seeking vengeance. After long time spent away from people and not using his power he figured out the rule that the more powers you use, the more evil you became. Since then he avoids using his telekinetic powers whenever he can. Current behavior and character: During the time after Calamity Matthew has been mostly hiking and sightseeing. When whole world is fighting for power or survival, the natural wonders are still beautiful and Matthew as an introverted nature lover is fine with avoiding people to just enjoy the views. However, even the most introverted people on earth sometimes need to interact with someone else. When he's tired of being alone he usually joins some little community, pretending to be a normal human if it's possible. If not, he pretends to be a minor epic with only some kind of specific invulnerability. As a result of not using his powers, his character turned back to the way it was before Rendering. He's a rather quiet, kind man who loves animals and helps other people if it's possible. Positive traits: smart, he got to work for huge IT company is USA right after graduating in Europe. despite being an introvert he's good with people loves animals and is willing to help them even if it would risk exposing his abilities Negative traits: He's a liar. Best described by image below. If he decides that with a lie he can make his life easier, and not harm anyone, he will lie without any hesitation. And he's really good in this. Sorry! Edited for violating language policy on site: He absolutely hates imperial measuring system. As someone growing up in Europe it's an abomination to him having such a messy measuring system. His English is not perfect, sometimes he won't know some words or won't understand rarely used idioms. If a genie offered them three wishes, what would those wishes be? 1. Turn back time to before Calamity. 2. Give me unlimited amount of money. 3. I want more wishes How would they react if they went to the store to satisfy a craving for Cocoa Puffs, only to find the store was out? What the hell is a Cocoa Puff? But probably he would just go to another store. What would they do if they went to the laundromat and saw the one person they could not stand had taken the last machine? Just wait for a free washing machine... Boring, I know How would my character make their grand entrance, and how would the other characters react? I'd like to join the Corvallis area. Actually without great entrance but with sneaking in, ending up as a witness to some fighting, trying to help some Vanillas escape or save a dog from rumbles, something like that. During this events Matthew would probably unknowingly display his invulnerability and he'll most likely be spotted by Chase or Jumpdrive. Then we'll see how keeping everyone from hating him will go without using any of the telekinesis. Ok, so that is my character. So I have three questions: Can I join the Corvallis area? Is my English good enough? Any ideas for an Epic name for him? He does his best to hide his epicness but he still may need a nickname You can absolutely join Corvallis! I agree with some of the others that the power / weakness might need a little tweaking, but I'm still thinking about that. Do you know what role you would like him to join as? I think the cake power will stay for the sheer fun but also maybe... Let's say we can measure in numbers how much someone likes him. -100 is pure hatered, 0 neutral and 100 is love. Lets give him power called possitive vibrations that would slowly bring people to level 10 of liking him if they are below that level. That way, someone who hates him has a chance to kill him, but if they're not fast enough and stays close, they'll stop hating him. I'm not sure if this is necessary, since I don't think his weakness is that easy to set off. You say to trigger his weakness he needs (1) People to know him AND (2) people to hate him. By this logic, all he really needs to do is to avoid everyone who knows him, and never spend enough time around people to let them get to know him. As long as he protects against that part of the weakness, the second part doesn't matter. It would be interesting to have him in a social setting like Corvallis, since he would be vulnerable to having his weakness triggered by the people he works with (Rainmaker and Co. if he is working for the government), so he would have to work hard to please them and keep them happy. As long as he was kept under the radar though, he could be used against Corvallis's enemies quite effectively. In a way, this would make him the perfect tool for someone like Rainmaker (or our other overlords), since his weakness is easy to trigger if you know him, and motivates him to keep the people who know him happy, but his weakness is impossible to trigger by strangers, which makes him a very effective attack dog. One clarification I might add to make the weakness more clear is that what is required is a PERSONAL hate (which is what it sounds to me like you are going for). What I mean by this is that to trigger his weakness, people must hate him as an individual, and that a general hatred against a class (such as epics, men, blondes) would not be sufficient to trigger his weakness. With that slight tweak, I honestly think he is good as is, and doesn't need another power, especially since the upping positive feelings towards himself power is kind of (note to nit-pickers - I said kind of, not exactly) similar to Euphoria, who is a central character in Corvallis. If you want to add this new power, I think Matthew would still be fine in another thread, but I'd worry about the duplication in Corvallis. 1
Mckeedee123 he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I think the cake power will stay for the sheer fun but also maybe... Let's say we can measure in numbers how much someone likes him. -100 is pure hatered, 0 neutral and 100 is love. Lets give him power called possitive vibrations that would slowly bring people to level 10 of liking him if they are below that level. That way, someone who hates him has a chance to kill him, but if they're not fast enough and stays close, they'll stop hating him. Perhaps his strategy to stop people from activating his weakness is to throw birthday parties for people? Think about it. Add some confetti powers, maybe?
Kobold King he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Perhaps his strategy to stop people from activating his weakness is to throw birthday parties for people? Think about it. Add some confetti powers, maybe? You know... I don't know how fitting that is with Mestiv's concept for the character, but I'm kind of liking the idea of a goofy, cartoonish Epic who's secretly deranged and sadistic but has to pretend to be harmless and lovable to avoid his weakness being set off. 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 20, 2015 Author Posted July 20, 2015 You know... I don't know how fitting that is with Mestiv's concept for the character, but I'm kind of liking the idea of a goofy, cartoonish Epic who's secretly deranged and sadistic but has to pretend to be harmless and lovable to avoid his weakness being set off. Eek. That is creepy.
Kobold King he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Eek. That is creepy. And just between you and me, it's kind of giving me fanfic flashbacks.
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 20, 2015 Author Posted July 20, 2015 And just between you and me, it's kind of giving me fanfic flashbacks. If you'll excuse me, I'm going to go try and rinse my brain of that awful fanfic. 1
Edgedancer he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 If you'll excuse me, I'm going to go try and rinse my brain of that awful fanfic. Try rinsing with writting stripper Obliteration fan fic. 1
Kobold King he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Try rinsing with writting stripper Obliteration fan fic. Is this Obliteration's new theme song?
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 20, 2015 Author Posted July 20, 2015 Try rinsing with writting stripper Obliteration fan fic. Much less disturbing. ....wait....
Mestiv he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I'm not sure if this is necessary, since I don't think his weakness is that easy to set off. You say to trigger his weakness he needs (1) People to know him AND (2) people to hate him. By this logic, all he really needs to do is to avoid everyone who knows him, and never spend enough time around people to let them get to know him. As long as he protects against that part of the weakness, the second part doesn't matter. It would be interesting to have him in a social setting like Corvallis, since he would be vulnerable to having his weakness triggered by the people he works with (Rainmaker and Co. if he is working for the government), so he would have to work hard to please them and keep them happy. As long as he was kept under the radar though, he could be used against Corvallis's enemies quite effectively. In a way, this would make him the perfect tool for someone like Rainmaker (or our other overlords), since his weakness is easy to trigger if you know him, and motivates him to keep the people who know him happy, but his weakness is impossible to trigger by strangers, which makes him a very effective attack dog. One clarification I might add to make the weakness more clear is that what is required is a PERSONAL hate (which is what it sounds to me like you are going for). What I mean by this is that to trigger his weakness, people must hate him as an individual, and that a general hatred against a class (such as epics, men, blondes) would not be sufficient to trigger his weakness. With that slight tweak, I honestly think he is good as is, and doesn't need another power, especially since the upping positive feelings towards himself power is kind of (note to nit-pickers - I said kind of, not exactly) similar to Euphoria, who is a central character in Corvallis. If you want to add this new power, I think Matthew would still be fine in another thread, but I'd worry about the duplication in Corvallis. Yes, the PERSONAL hate thing is what I had in mind. He can't be affected by someone who just met him or by someone who has no reason to hate him for what he has done. Many epics attack their targets without hate but with cold calculation in mind that it will benefit them in some way. Obliteration destroying a city would not event scratch Mattew. A more fitting example would be Matthew facing Iconoclast from Corvallis. Iconoclast doesn't hate his victims, even more, he said to Firefly that he is his friend. As for the role of Matthew that would be indeed working with the Queens. He came to Corvallis because of the rumours that everyone is happy there -> all happy = no hate = good place for him. I'll think that with your approval, we can drop the possitive vibrations idea and relay on other ways to keep his acquaintances pleased with him. I'll post his Character Sheet in the Epics list thread, including what we have all came up with in this thread
Edgedancer he/him Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Much less disturbing. ....wait.... *watches realization settle in and enjoys* By the way, who would actually be interested in writting that fantasy spin-off?
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 20, 2015 Author Posted July 20, 2015 *watches realization settle in and enjoys* By the way, who would actually be interested in writting that fantasy spin-off? Just how long have you been conspiring to make me see writing a stripping!Obliteration fic as a viable AND attractive option? I might be. 1
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