Voidus Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 And thus Shiny Sparkle learned the art of flirting with herself. So for those that watched the movie, did I catch it right that disgust is one of the five emotion and Joy the only positive one? Well it'd be more like flirting with her own sense of flirtyness But the more practical upshot is that Autumn could literally murder Shiny's attraction to her Although given how it's somewhat related to the corruption it may just reform because otherwise he'd be capable of redeeming Epics pretty much at will.
Kobold King he/him Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 And thus Shiny Sparkle learned the art of flirting with herself. So for those that watched the movie, did I catch it right that disgust is one of the five emotion and Joy the only positive one? I thought all she needed was a mirror. The point of the movie was more that all of them were positive in some sense. Anger feeds determination. Fear keeps you safe. Disgust keeps you from being poisoned, and keeps you away from cultural taboos. Sadness is necessary for empathy, or coming to terms with tragedy. Joy is the only one that regulates pleasure, but they all need to be in balance for a healthy mindset, or else what you have is a hedonistic party animal with no motivation or empathy for others. 2
Edgedancer he/him Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 I thought all she needed was a mirror. The point of the movie was more that all of them were positive in some sense. Anger feeds determination. Fear keeps you safe. Disgust keeps you from being poisoned, and keeps you away from cultural taboos. Sadness is necessary for empathy, or coming to terms with tragedy. Joy is the only one that regulates pleasure, but they all need to be in balance for a healthy mindset, or else what you have is a hedonistic party animal with no motivation or empathy for others. It's just not the same unless you can get a reaction out of someone. I can see where you are coming from but stuff like anger and disgust are very negatively accented on the spectrum of emotion. Just the opinion from someone that didn't watch the movie and as such most likely doesn't know what he's talking about but it seems to me like it would make more sense to switch Anger with Excitement and make Anger either a subset of his role or something that is a result of mixing with fear, instead of just going for the extreme and something similair for Disgust.
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 15, 2015 Author Posted July 15, 2015 I thought all she needed was a mirror. The point of the movie was more that all of them were positive in some sense. Anger feeds determination. Fear keeps you safe. Disgust keeps you from being poisoned, and keeps you away from cultural taboos. Sadness is necessary for empathy, or coming to terms with tragedy. Joy is the only one that regulates pleasure, but they all need to be in balance for a healthy mindset, or else what you have is a hedonistic party animal with no motivation or empathy for others. Right. Those are the five primary emotions recognized by psychologists, and the movie portrayed them as more or less neutral. Emotional health, they seemed to imply, is when all five work together for good. They don't always know what's best (as evidenced in a scene where Riley lets Anger take control while Fear and Disgust let him) and often make bad decisions (I won't spoil it, but this is a big factor in the climax) but the first step to emotional health is allowing all emotions to have a say in decision making.
Voidus Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Come to think of it that Empath Epic could do a lot of good in the Dalles, murder Deathwish's creepiness, Scribblers fear of Epics, Arsenals... Arsenalness... 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 15, 2015 Author Posted July 15, 2015 Come to think of it that Empath Epic could do a lot of good in the Dalles, murder Deathwish's creepiness, Scribblers fear of Epics, Arsenals... Arsenalness... Except those Epics' brains would just keep resurrecting those things, if they could even be truly killed in the first place.
Edgedancer he/him Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Come to think of it that Empath Epic could do a lot of good in the Dalles, murder Deathwish's creepiness, Scribblers fear of Epics, Arsenals... Arsenalness... You mean his Arseness? Anyway, could he murder Nighthound's not-wanting-to-be-killed-ness? 1
Kobold King he/him Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Except those Epics' brains would just keep resurrecting those things, if they could even be truly killed in the first place. Way to go Twi. You had to go and ruin it.
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 15, 2015 Author Posted July 15, 2015 You mean his Arseness? Anyway, could he murder Nighthound's not-wanting-to-be-killed-ness? My personal headcanon is that, although Inside Out says it's impossible, all of Nighthound's primary Emotions quit the day he crossed the Moral Event Horizon, leaving Satan himself to step inside his brain, look at the empty HQ and say "Well, looks like it's up to me." 2
Edgedancer he/him Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 My personal headcanon is that, although Inside Out says it's impossible, all of Nighthound's primary Emotions quit the day he crossed the Moral Event Horizon, leaving Satan himself to step inside his brain, look at the empty HQ and say "Well, looks like it's up to me." damnation, guess we'll just have to blow him up the old-fashioned way. 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 15, 2015 Author Posted July 15, 2015 damnation, guess we'll just have to blow him up the old-fashioned way. With lots and lots of dynamite?
Voidus Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Except those Epics' brains would just keep resurrecting those things, if they could even be truly killed in the first place. Eventually but it would provide a bit of a reprieve, and while they're all outlets for corruption they're not really caused by it, as Megan said in Firefight it doesn't always manifest the same so I think that it basically just enhances the negative aspect of all emotions. (Anger becomes wrath, disgust becomes loathing, etc.) so he might still be able to kill off specific aspects of their corruption. You mean his Arseness? Anyway, could he murder Nighthound's not-wanting-to-be-killed-ness? Quite Yes but I imagine that aspect in particular would put up a pretty big fight, also he'd have to be right next to Nighthound to do it and so he'd probably get his neck snapped before he could manage it. Also, given that he's an Epic he's more likely to manifest Nighthounds slontziness and essentially clone him just to wreak some mayhem.
Edgedancer he/him Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 With lots and lots of dynamite? Preferably, although colorful flashes of light may be deployed to help. Yes but I imagine that aspect in particular would put up a pretty big fight, also he'd have to be right next to Nighthound to do it and so he'd probably get his neck snapped before he could manage it. Also, given that he's an Epic he's more likely to manifest Nighthounds slontziness and essentially clone him just to wreak some mayhem. ...You know what, he isn't allowed to come out and play afterall.
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 15, 2015 Author Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Okay. So, to answer Kobold's question from last night, here's how I envision Funtimes' brain, using Inside Out as a model. For spoilerish purposes, I can't go into her Islands of Personality or too many of her core memories, although I know what many of them are and what they look like, and how the Islands are connected, their degrees of maintenance or disrepair, and which ones have crumbled altogether. But I can tell you what her HQ looks like. Spoilered just in case: I originally thought that Joy and Sadness were probably absent, the way they were with Riley in the movie. But then I realized that, given the way Funtimes acts, Joy and Sadness are both present in HQ. Like Riley, Funtimes has always been Joy-dominant—an optimist by nature, always trying to look on the bright side, doing anything to avoid feeling sad. It's just that Joy's role has changed dramatically since Calamity put Fear in charge. FEAR: Jooooyyyyy! SADNESS IS TOUCHING THE MEMORIES AGAIN! SADNESS: Sorry! I'll stop! I always ruin everything! I just couldn't stop thinking about— DISGUST: Who made her touch them? Ugh, I'll bet it was Lightwards. ANGER: Lightwards? Give me two seconds with that guy and I'll drown him in— (Sadness reaches out to touch another memory; Joy catches her out the corner of her eye.) JOY: We still like vegetables, right? Did you see how….yellow that corn is? FEAR: GREAT NOODLY ONE ITS SOOOOO YELLOW AND AMAZING! ANGER: Hmph. That is some pretty nice corn. FEAR: Oh…..it's so yellow and amazing and I don't want to think about anything else except this corn. (Fear dissolves into desperate laughter) Something like that. Edge, as soon as you can, you need to see this movie. Not only is it fantastic on its own, but it provides an awesome framework through which to consider fictional characters' emotional health (or lack thereof) and what makes them tick. Plus, I want to see if you agree with my assessment that Lucentia is Disgust-dominant (and has been for a while) while Baxter Game is probably Sadness-dominant. There is some seriously deep psychology in that movie. Edited July 15, 2015 by TwiLyghtSansSparkles 4
Edgedancer he/him Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Okay. So, to answer Kobold's question from last night, here's how I envision Funtimes' brain, using Inside Out as a model. For spoilerish purposes, I can't go into her Islands of Personality or too many of her core memories, although I know what many of them are and what they look like, and how the Islands are connected, their degrees of maintenance or disrepair, and which ones have crumbled altogether. But I can tell you what her HQ looks like. Spoilered just in case: I originally thought that Joy and Sadness were probably absent, the way they were with Riley in the movie. But then I realized that, given the way Funtimes acts, Joy and Sadness are both present in HQ. Like Riley, Funtimes has always been Joy-dominant—an optimist by nature, always trying to look on the bright side, doing anything to avoid feeling sad. It's just that Joy's role has changed dramatically since Calamity put Fear in charge. FEAR: Jooooyyyyy! SADNESS IS TOUCHING THE MEMORIES AGAIN! SADNESS: Sorry! I'll stop! I always ruin everything! I just couldn't stop thinking about— DISGUST: Who made her touch them? Ugh, I'll bet it was Lightwards. ANGER: Lightwards? Give me two seconds with that guy and I'll drown him in— (Sadness reaches out to touch another memory; Joy catches her out the corner of her eye.) JOY: We still like vegetables, right? Did you see how….yellow that corn is? FEAR: GREAT NOODLY ONE ITS SOOOOO YELLOW AND AMAZING! ANGER: Hmph. That is some pretty nice corn. FEAR: Oh…..it's so yellow and amazing and I don't want to think about anything else except this corn. (Fear dissolves into desperate laughter) Something like that. Edge, as soon as you can, you need to see this movie. Not only is it fantastic on its own, but it provides an awesome framework through which to consider fictional characters' emotional health (or lack thereof) and what makes them tick. Plus, I want to see if you agree with my assessment that Lucentia is Disgust-dominant (and has been for a while) while Baxter Game is probably Sadness-dominant. There is some seriously deep psychology in that movie. Oh I would like to but because I live in germany I have to wait for localization until i can go watch it legally and that will be... does some goggling... in october.
Mailliw73 he/him Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Given that you aren't even half his age that would be some impressive time traveling right there... You're Timeport. Oo You all misassumed that Calamity rose in 2013, but you were wrong. It hasn't happened yet. Oh, please. He's been a perfect gentleman to me and other forum members of the female persuasion, whereas Timeport wouldn't be able to contain his creepy and sexist remarks for longer than a few seconds. Thanks for sticking up for me, Twi!
Blaze1616 he/him Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 There is some seriously deep psychology in that movie. I particularly like it because the psychology is accurate. Like, way to go Pixar, researching and stuff when making a movie! 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 15, 2015 Author Posted July 15, 2015 Oh I would like to but because I live in germany I have to wait for localization until i can go watch it legally and that will be... does some goggling... in october. Really? Wow, that sucks. It's too bad we can't just, I don't know, ship you over here for the purpose of watching the movie and participating in a totally insane Reckoners RPG party. You all misassumed that Calamity rose in 2013, but you were wrong. It hasn't happened yet. Thanks for sticking up for me, Twi! Oh noes. Just telling the truth. 1
Voidus Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Really? Wow, that sucks. It's too bad we can't just, I don't know, ship you over here for the purpose of watching the movie and participating in a totally insane Reckoners RPG party. Oh noes. Just telling the truth. Any chance you could swing by Aus and pick me up too?
Mailliw73 he/him Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Oh noes. You're telling me! It's my descendants that are so messed up!
Edgedancer he/him Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Really? Wow, that sucks. It's too bad we can't just, I don't know, ship you over here for the purpose of watching the movie and participating in a totally insane Reckoners RPG party. Oh noes. Just telling the truth. Well, I wouldn't complain, if you guys went and shipped me out. Alright, alright he's Baxter's father, so whose father am I?
Mailliw73 he/him Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Well, I wouldn't complain, if you guys went and shipped me out. Alright, alright he's Baxter's father, so whose father am I? Since you're the only German and Jäger is a German word, uh....
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted July 15, 2015 Author Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Since you're the only German and Jäger is a German word, uh.... ….we'll assume the Jagers are no relation and are instead the descendants of long-ago German immigrants to America, since a large number of German immigrants went to Oregon. Astoria especially has a rather large German community. Edit: So does Aurora, which is where at least one branch of my family tree comes from. Edited July 15, 2015 by TwiLyghtSansSparkles
Edgedancer he/him Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Since you're the only German and Jäger is a German word, uh.... Who say's none of the other characters are from germany?
Mailliw73 he/him Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Who say's none of the other characters are from germany? Oh right. You can be the Mad Ballooner's father.
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