Omence Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Who Could Szeth not Kill? Himself! Being truthless prevents him from this thing.
natc Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Who Could Szeth not Kill? Himself! Being truthless prevents him from this thing. He commits suicide by cop in both versions of the final battle. 1
CHOUTAGOD he/him Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Wit/Hoid. He told Jasnah that her little knife/Shardblade wouldnt kill him.
Left he/him Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 I really really want to say Vash the Humanoid Typhoon.......but I think Szeth might be able to take him ..... 1
Patrick Star Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 I really really want to say Vash the Humanoid Typhoon.......but I think Szeth might be able to take him ..... But definitely not the Tasmanian Devil.
kinxer he/him Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) I'm a bit sorry for the obvious point, but... Kaladin? I mean, we don't really know what Szeth can do with Nightblood, but he's already lost once... Also, the following are assuming his previous skillset (Honorblade): - Susebron: I imagine the ability to Awaken all the things would just be too much for Szeth - A Decent Earthbender: Assuming that an Earthbender has the knowledge of how Stormlight is stored, they could just separate Szeth from his gems and use their then-superior mobility to batter him until he dies - Shadowcat (Kitty Pryde): I notice that the focus has been on someone who could kill Szeth, but if someone can consistently escape from him, he can't kill them. - Steel Compounder: Same sense as the previous assertion. Edited April 14, 2015 by kinxer
Elsecaller3414 she/her Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 I'd imagine that it would be hard to kill another Radiant, because if they have a Shardblade and he has Nightblood, they kind of cancel each other out, from what I've heard (I'm kinda new), so with powers involved, it would make an equal match.
Ethan the Zinc Compounder he/him Posted April 14, 2015 Author Posted April 14, 2015 I'm a bit sorry for the obvious point, but... Kaladin? I mean, we don't really know what Szeth can do with Nightblood, but he's already lost once... Also, the following are assuming his previous skillset (Honorblade): - Susebron: I imagine the ability to Awaken all the things would just be too much for Szeth - A Decent Earthbender: Assuming that an Earthbender has the knowledge of how Stormlight is stored, they could just separate Szeth from his gems and use their then-superior mobility to batter him until he dies - Shadowcat (Kitty Pryde): I notice that the focus has been on someone who could kill Szeth, but if someone can consistently escape from him, he can't kill them. - Steel Compounder: Same sense as the previous assertion. Remember Shardblades can cut anything other then living flesh, so I'm thinking a Earthbender would have a very hard time with it. Fire or Air Would be better of IMO.
kinxer he/him Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 I'd imagine that it would be hard to kill another Radiant, because if they have a Shardblade and he has Nightblood, they kind of cancel each other out, from what I've heard (I'm kinda new), so with powers involved, it would make an equal match. I'm pretty sure there's a WoB that says Nightblood is far more than a match for a Shardblade. Remember Shardblades can cut anything other then living flesh, so I'm thinking a Earthbender would have a very hard time with it. Fire or Air Would be better of IMO. Well, Fire or Air would be able to hit him more easily, but Earth depends on taking away his Stormlight, which would then allow the Earthbender to move around much quicker than Szeth while battering him with rocks. The idea isn't that it would be easy, but rather that, without Stormlight, Szeth is just a guy with a sword that can cut through anything. Attacking him from multiple directions and/or pelting him with lots of attacks will at least tire him (if he dodges in time) if not kill him outright. In any case, I guess a Combustionbender would have an easier time in general.
ZotarDragonSlayer he/him Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 I don't disagree with any of your arguments, but I do think your not giving Szeth as much credit as he deserves. One: Nightblood: can disintegrate matter instantly and improves the abilities of the user greatly, (even though it drains investure) This would basically kill off most people he fights because all he has to do is touch them once with Nightblood and they're puffing off in black smoke. That alone is awesome but with the added abilites of Two: He's probably (60%ish) going to have some kind of special abilities to go along with his new weapon. Nalan basically says Szeth is "skybreaker" material and from what we know of the surges they have they can change gravity (fly) and make things... divide... Add these up and you've got a guy that can fly and disintegrate his opponent.That and if the person he is fighting has any kind of evil in them at all, he just needs to let them pick up the sword and the fights over. Still, there's no way to prove anything until we get more on the full backstory of Szeth. Most of the opponents mentioned already have their full abilities explained and measured. Szeth does not, so that makes it difficult to say what he can do.
Patrick Star Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 I don't disagree with any of your arguments, but I do think your not giving Szeth as much credit as he deserves. One: Nightblood: can disintegrate matter instantly and improves the abilities of the user greatly, (even though it drains investure) This would basically kill off most people he fights because all he has to do is touch them once with Nightblood and they're puffing off in black smoke. That alone is awesome but with the added abilites of Two: He's probably (60%ish) going to have some kind of special abilities to go along with his new weapon. Nalan basically says Szeth is "skybreaker" material and from what we know of the surges they have they can change gravity (fly) and make things... divide... Add these up and you've got a guy that can fly and disintegrate his opponent.That and if the person he is fighting has any kind of evil in them at all, he just needs to let them pick up the sword and the fights over. Still, there's no way to prove anything until we get more on the full backstory of Szeth. Most of the opponents mentioned already have their full abilities explained and measured. Szeth does not, so that makes it difficult to say what he can do. 1) Not really. He just hits harder, and packs a large punch. Avoiding Nightblood or having enough shielding is the way to beat non-honorblade Szeth. And that's assuming that Szeth can unsheath him. Szeth has no way of fueling nightblood, so he'd actually be at a bit of a handicap. 2) Just because we think he's going to doesn't mean that he does. That argument is invalid. Szeth does not have skybreaker powers. At the moment, we know what Szeth can do with the honorblade. We also know what Nightblood we can do. Szeth's powers at this point are very well established, and the only area with any wiggle room is how those powers interact with others' powers in these hypothetical situations.
taveren he/him Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 i'm going to say the flash again since no one responded to that last time
Lindel he/him Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 In any case, I guess a Combustionbender Sparky Sparky Boom man would have an easier time in general. Let me fix that for you. 1
natc Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Let me fix that for you. But what about the other Combustionbender? 1
Lindel he/him Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) That's fair. I interpreted that as "Combustion Man" the first time through, my mistake. Edited April 22, 2015 by Lindel
natc Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 That name is weird anyway. All firebending besides lightning generation (why is this even a thing) involves combustion. The only difference here is that it is a case of psychic bending . . . I wonder if a psychic bloodbender can beat Szeth. It's a rare situation but we know it happens.
Patrick Star Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 That name is weird anyway. All firebending besides lightning generation (why is this even a thing) involves combustion. The only difference here is that it is a case of psychic bending . . . I wonder if a psychic bloodbender can beat Szeth. It's a rare situation but we know it happens. Lightning exists to make Iroh even more awesome. RIP, Dragon of the West :'(
natc Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Well, the spirit world seems peaceful enough now. So he got that on his RIP tally at least. 1
kinxer he/him Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Let me fix that for you. This is why I love this community. That name is weird anyway. All firebending besides lightning generation (why is this even a thing) involves combustion. The only difference here is that it is a case of psychic bending . . . I wonder if a psychic bloodbender can beat Szeth. It's a rare situation but we know it happens. Unfortunately, Sparkysparkyboombender is a bit of a mouthful. Also, I bet that everyone calls them that because Sokka was important enough to exert his wacky influence. Oh, and... i'm going to say the flash again since no one responded to that last time I'm going to agree with you, but only on the premise that the Flash would be fast enough to avoid being hit. I think Szeth (old abilities or new) is resourceful enough to keep the Flash at bay if not cause the Flash to retreat. 2
Edgedancer he/him Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Oh, and... I'm going to agree with you, but only on the premise that the Flash would be fast enough to avoid being hit. I think Szeth (old abilities or new) is resourceful enough to keep the Flash at bay if not cause the Flash to retreat. Well old Szeth could have used a Full Lashing magic clue to stop the Flash in his tracks.
kinxer he/him Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Well old Szeth could have used a Full Lashing magic glue to stop the Flash in his tracks. Ooh. True.
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