Ethan the Zinc Compounder Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) Im New to this so: Spoiler alert! Spoiler alert! Spoiler alert! Spoiler alert! For Words of Radiance. Here is a Topic deciding who Szeth would fail to kill. This may include Characters outside of Brandon Sanderson's Universe. (this is the most recent Szeth we know about, with him owning Nightblood and being a Skybreaker) My list: Superman (As I'm tipping this I'm having doubts) Is it just me or can he kill anyone. (Please excuse all literally immortal Characters) Question, Can a Lightsaber cut a Shardblade? or Nightblood for that mater? Edit: This is also now a thread Discussing the nature of Skybreaker, Dustbringer and Edgedancer Powers. Edited April 12, 2015 by Ethan the Zinc Compounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan the Zinc Compounder Posted April 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Starkiller from "the Force Unleashed 2" (Star wars) or even Vin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiver Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) Szeth is a good fighter- but he's just a man. Add in the fact he's using techniques and weapons largely unseen on Roshar, and you get a death machine....for now. As surges become more well known though, I suspect Szeths kill streak will become less impressive, since tactics and strategies will emerge to counter him. Hell be relying on the terror aspect of his skill set.That said, Supes would take him down easily. Superspeed? Heat vision?Heck, set up the Punisher with a sniper rifle a mile or two away. Without surges, beating that might be hard.(Admittedly, surges regenerating him might be an issue, but can storight heal him as it does Kaladin? He's capabilities with Night blood might not be the same as they were before.) Edited April 10, 2015 by Quiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 IIRC he could heal before . . . was really bad at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 In modern time, a common soldier with a machine gun already stands a good chance. the surge to attract small objects is unlikely to deflect a bullet very much, and a full volley would hurt him enough, if not to kill him despite stormlight, to disable him long enough to change the magazine and finish him with headshots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOUTAGOD Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 No one can kill The Wolverine!!! Anyone that says such will feel the claws!!! p.s. Bub 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Star Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Dovahkiin (and pretty much any powerful Elder Scrolls character), Master Chief (or any other Spartan), Eragon, any Fallout protagonist (VATS, enough said), Chuck Norris, Rambo, Commander Shepard, Luke Skywalker (or any other Jedi), most comic book characters, Optimus Prime, and a Wobbuffet. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taveren Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 the flash is pretty much unbeatable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan the Zinc Compounder Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Optimus Prime kill Szeth? Someone that can fly and has a sword that literally disintegrates matter. Maybe I should have said fantasy character? But can a Lightsaber cut Nightblood? (I say thee Nay!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiver Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) Depending on continuity, Optimus can fly- either by stripmining the dead (as in Bayformers) or spontaneously developing rocketboots (also in Bayformers). Not to mention his sick energy axe. As I said, we don't know what (if any) surges Szeth might get from Nightblood, and I don't remember Nightblood being able to cut through anything Shardblade-style as on Nalthis. Which means Szeth is reduced to just his sword skills, in which case, I wonder if maybe Jaime Lannister would be able to beat him. Edited April 10, 2015 by Quiver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bort Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I'd like to point out that we no longer know if Szeth can fly, or lash himself to walls. Syl explained that he got his powers from the honourblade, so when his bond with it was broken, surely he lost the powers? Sure, Nightblood will probably give him something, and his Skybreaker oaths may give him more, but he is no longer a Windrunner (of sorts). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Depending on continuity, Optimus can fly- either by stripmining the dead (as in Bayformers) or spontaneously developing rocketboots (also in Bayformers). Not to mention his sick energy axe. As I said, we don't know what (if any) surges Szeth might get from Nightblood, and I don't remember Nightblood being able to cut through anything Shardblade-style as on Nalthis. Which means Szeth is reduced to just his sword skills, in which case, I wonder if maybe Jaime Lannister would be able to beat him. Nightblood literally vaporized solid walls, ceilings, and Lifeless on contact. He'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiver Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Nightblood literally vaporized solid walls, ceilings, and Lifeless on contact. He'll be fine. ...Huh. I forgot all about that, apparently. Okay, so Jaime is out of the running it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan the Zinc Compounder Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 As I remember, Whoever brought Szeth back from the Dead was also the Patron of Skybreakers, and the next book is called skybreaker (working title) and is called Szeth's book. I looked it up, Nale was the Herald I spoke of, http://coppermind.net/wiki/Nale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bort Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I heard the next book was Stones Unhallowed, but yes, Szeth's book. Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan the Zinc Compounder Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) Old name. I think this would end up like Dalinar, Using the Herald as his Spren. also, the Sykbreakers are my favorite order. "Ha! I can fly and Blow stuff up! (or disintegrate it or whatever) and fly!" Edited April 10, 2015 by Ethan the Zinc Compounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiver Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 As I remember, Whoever brought Szeth back from the Dead was also the Patron of Skybreakers, and the next book is called skybreaker (working title) and is called Szeth's book. I looked it up, Nale was the Herald I spoke of, http://coppermind.net/wiki/Nale True- but said patron is also running around killing surgebinders. I'm sure that Szeth will end up with Skybreaker surges eventually (if he doens't already have them), but whether he has them yet isn't particularly clear. For all we know, being bonded to Nightblood might give Szeth completely different skills than a normal Skybreaker. (Besides, though Nale calls his gang the Skybreakers, their relation to the actual Radiant Skybreakers isn't particularly clear. We have no idea what abilities Szeth has, if any.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan the Zinc Compounder Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I think this would end up like Dalinar, Using the Herald as his Spren. also, the Sykbreakers are my favorite order. "Ha! I can fly and Blow stuff up! (or disintegrate it or whatever)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Star Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Let me explain a couple of my characters Optimus Prime: First, he has a ton of guns and very accurate targeting sensors. There is no way that Szeth could get close enough with nightblood to hit Prime. Second, all Transformers have energy shields, similar to Master Chief (play Fall of Cybertron), but they're a lot stronger. Since a lightsaber could duel with a shardblade, an energy shield would protect Prime from the Honorblade, and Nightblood as well. Hey, my shield can take a rocket easily, which packs a larger punch than Nightblood. Third, he can drive (or fly) away if he has to retreat. Master Chief: First, he's protected by Energy Shields. Second, he has guns, and knows how to use them. Third, the Spartan augmentation process gives all Spartans "SPARTAN-Time", they can see everything happening in slow (and fast) motion (at least 13x slow motion, even more with an AI). Chief would be way too nimble for nightblood to score a hit, and his energy shields would protect against the honorblade (but not nightblood, due to a lower power supply than Prime). Fourth, he has supernatural luck and impenetrable plot armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I think this would end up like Dalinar, Using the Herald as his Spren. also, the Sykbreakers are my favorite order. "Ha! I can fly and Blow stuff up! (or disintegrate it or whatever)" Heralds are "human" though. As human as an immortal, eternally resurrecting super soldier can get at least, but human. The Stormfather is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ethan the Zinc Compounder Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) .......... Oops, I should have known this. Maybe a mentor? also, who's to stop Szeth from lashing himself like 20 times (2400 MPH) to the Good ol' Prime and pointing his sword foreword? (this is completely unrealistic maybe 10 times 1200 MPH if allowed time to reach terminal velocity.) Edited April 10, 2015 by Ethan the Zinc Compounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Star Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 .......... Oops, I should have known this. Maybe a mentor? also, who's to stop Szeth from lashing himself like 20 times (2400 MPH) to the Good ol' Prime and pointing his sword foreword? (this is completely unrealistic maybe 10 times 1200 MPH if allowed time to reach terminal velocity.) I don't know, maybe a rapid fire rocket launcher? Or a chaingun? Or a stun grenade? Maybe an electrical discharge? Prime's a robot with easily exascale computing power and is armed to the teeth, he can react way before Szeth can get to him and has a huge arsenal. Plus, I already mentioned the super-strong energy shield. Same with Chief (about reaction, not about being a robot). Also, Wobbuffet would kick his butt. It's a psychic damage sponge. Even with Nightblood, Szeth couldn't one-hit-KO it. And its counter moves would vaporize Szeth instantly. He may wound Wobbuffet, but he couldn't kill it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid King Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 A shardblade is composed of a Spren - the physical manifestation of the cognitive ideas. So a shardblade is just using the power of the mind/ideas to cut things. To destroy a shardblade, you would need something that could literally destroy ideas. A lightsaber is a beam of energy, which is physical only. Therefore, a lightsaber could not damage a shardblade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan the Zinc Compounder Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Okay I give. Thanks Paranoid King for the Comment, now we can argue about Szeth killing Luke Skywalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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