The Worst That Could Happen Foundation

[Blaze1616 he/him]

Though you are correct, it might be a trap, what other choice do we have? We have no leads whatsoever as to where they've taken the hostages, where their "base" is, or even if our technology can stand up to theirs in battle! With zero data points, zero conclusions can be made. We need data points. Otherwise we're just sitting and waiting for the Chargers to make the next move. That's not a position we want to be in. All an airstrike would do, if it does kill them all, is leave us in the same position we're in now, but with a destroyed barn, rather than one ripe for the picking.

[Kobold King he/him]

Kobold, can we get an analasis on Kyle's voice to check for any traces of it being artifical?

 

Analysis of YouTube videos he posted through his account concludes that if his voice is being artificially reproduced, then there's no clear sign of it. His voice sounds shaken, but organic.

[Edgedancer he/him]

Though you are correct, it might be a trap, what other choice do we have? We have no leads whatsoever as to where they've taken the hostages, where their "base" is, or even if our technology can stand up to theirs in battle! With zero data points, zero conclusions can be made. We need data points. Otherwise we're just sitting and waiting for the Chargers to make the next move. That's not a position we want to be in. All an airstrike would do, if it does kill them all, is leave us in the same position we're in now, but with a destroyed barn, rather than one ripe for the picking.

You're right I fear.

 

Kobold, if this turns into an open war, do we actually play out the entire thing?

[Kobold King he/him]

Kobold, if this turns into an open war, do we actually play out the entire thing?

 

Probably not. We're 173 posts in and I've only posted three scenario updates. If we embarked on a full-scale war, this thread would reach Question levels of enormousness.

 

If open war breaks out over multiple continents, the Foundation will be dissolved and its directors will be returned to lead the war efforts of their respective nations. That will be counted as an end to this scenario.

 

(Without giving anything away, I will say that this is a fairly straightforward scenario at its heart. I can't predict how many more updates will be required to resolve it, but at the rate we've gone so far I doubt we'll need another ten pages. Who can say for sure, though?)

[Blaze1616 he/him]

(Without giving anything away, I will say that this is a fairly straightforward scenario at its heart. I can't predict how many more updates will be required to resolve it, but at the rate we've gone so far I doubt we'll need another ten pages. Who can say for sure, though?)

 

I have a feeling we'll use more than 10 more pages. I think we're reaching a point where disagreements will be had, and we'll potantially start getting split votes, rather than unanimous ones. That'll involve some discussion, extending post counts. I doubt we'll reach Question levels though.

[Edgedancer he/him]

The only way we'll solve this is with less than ten pages is the ground attack fighting them off or it giving us the capability to teleport the hostages out of their base and teleport spam explosives in.

Edited March 4, 2015 by Edgedancer

[Kobold King he/him]

I have a feeling we'll use more than 10 more pages. I think we're reaching a point where disagreements will be had, and we'll potantially start getting split votes, rather than unanimous ones. That'll involve some discussion, extending post counts. I doubt we'll reach Question levels though.

The only way we'll solve this is with less than ten pages is the ground attack fighting them off or it giving us the capability to teleport the hostages out of their base and teleport spam explosives in.

 

Good points. I hope nobody is or will be getting bored with this scenario.

 

Though of course, if everybody becomes unanimously sick of it, I have ways of cutting it short.

Edited March 4, 2015 by Kobold King

[Lindel he/him]

I'm not bored. Honestly, I feel personally invested in the scenario. I keep checking in to make sure some new catastrophe hasn't occurred that will threaten the future of mankind.   

[Blaze1616 he/him]

Good points. I hope nobody is or will be getting bored with this scenario.

 

I'm not bored. I'm actually quite enthralled with the concept of this thread. It is like an RP, but we're not roleplaying. We're legitimately discussing what in gods' names we'd do if Elephant militants took over a town and were threatening to re-enact it on a global scale. Pretty exciting. I worry later installments won't have much variation though, due to many of us lacking specific expertise. For example, we really couldn't do a situation where we are trying to aid a Space Station from imploding, as unless we know how Spacey things work, none of us would really know what we're talking about...

 

 

Though of course, if everybody becomes unanimously sick of it, I have ways of cutting it short.

 

This has me chuckling. It's rather sadistic though...

[Edgedancer he/him]

Good points. I hope nobody is or will be getting bored with this scenario.

 

Though of course, if everybody becomes unanimously sick of it, I have ways of cutting it short.

Not bored, not at all. (Who knows, maybe I'm already designing scenarios myself. )

 

Is the elephant god going to blow us out of exsistence aferall?

[Edgedancer he/him]

We need a spy among the hostages. Maybe someone can offer a trade of themselves for one so we have a clearer view of what's happening?

From what we have been told everyone that tries to enter the barn will be killed. They probably already figured out that we would want to gather intel. On the upside that means it's highly likely that there is intel. On the additional downside that intel might just be that the hostages are gone and we have it already.

[Kobold King he/him]

I'm not bored. Honestly, I feel personally invested in the scenario. I keep checking in to make sure some new catastrophe hasn't occurred that will threaten the future of mankind.   

I'm not bored. I'm actually quite enthralled with the concept of this thread. It is like an RP, but we're not roleplaying. We're legitimately discussing what in gods' names we'd do if Elephant militants took over a town and were threatening to re-enact it on a global scale. Pretty exciting. I worry later installments won't have much variation though, due to many of us lacking specific expertise. For example, we really couldn't do a situation where we are trying to aid a Space Station from imploding, as unless we know how Spacey things work, none of us would really know what we're talking about...

 

 

 

This has me chuckling. It's rather sadistic though...

Not bored, not at all. (Who knows, maybe I'm already designing scenarios myself. )

 

Is the elephant god going to blow us out of exsistence aferall?

 

Glad to hear it, you guys. And I definitely look forward to the day when a new situation emerges and Dr. K. King can take his seat among the board of directors to discuss the fate of the world.

 

And as far as elephant gods are concerned, I'm going to have to RAFO you.

[Edgedancer he/him]

But the offer of an exchange is that they wouldn't have to worry about them returning.

I'm pretty sure that a race capable of warp, modern weaponery and some form of translation device can understand the concept of a hidden camera. Plus, they already moved the hostages, meaning they know something. I wouldn't be so sure that they want to return them at all.

[Edgedancer he/him]

I think the team should not be armed. Who knows if our weapons can harm them? The best would be it could hurt them and kill them. That situation leads to retaliation from the rest. The true best is if our "puny attempts" amuse them. Worst is they kill every human on this planet because of it.

What is the alternative to fighting back, though? If we have no weaponary that can harm them we are stormed one way or another, so at least try to gain an advantage, while they haven't had a chance to spread out and conquer/destroy yet.

[Blaze1616 he/him]

Could a pro-airstriker please post their thoughts on why an airstrike is preferable over the ground assault? This isn't going to go farther until we start this discussion.

 

 

But the offer of an exchange is that they wouldn't have to worry about them returning.

 

Though it is a good idea, I think we've passed that exit. Even if we manage to get another communication line with the Chargers, their threats to kill any who attempt to enter the barn says they don't want any info from inside the barn to get out of. As such they'd likely just refuse our request.

 

 

I think the team should not be armed. Who knows if our weapons can harm them? The best would be it could hurt them and kill them. That situation leads to retaliation from the rest. The true best is if our "puny attempts" amuse them. Worst is they kill every human on this planet because of it.

 

How are we to capture any of them if the team is unarmed? They are armed, with what I've imagined as large, bazooka sized weapons. Sending in anybody unarmed is going to result in everyone on the team dieing. I think the question now becames 1) Do we send an assault team or an airstrike, and 2) If we send an assault team, do they go in with lethal weapons.

[Blaze1616 he/him]

Hm. I'm not very good at this, am I?

 

Nonsense. All ideas are valuable in a situation like this. Some are gold nuggets of wonder. Others are turds. Just because you've crapped a few out doesn't mean you won't be the one finding the gold later on.

[Kobold King he/him]

I poop gold? Also, if we have weapons we need to go for lethal. What's the point of non-lethal weapons? Non lethal would make even more likely to get killed. We need to start mass producing them in our SECRET BASE WHICH WE TOTALLY HAVE, KOBOLD.

 

I've kind of been imagining the directors talking in some kind of global teleconference, like the heads of SHIELD in The Avengers. There's no canon about the Foundation's headquarters yet, though.

[Edgedancer he/him]

Could a pro-airstriker please post their thoughts on why an airstrike is preferable over the ground assault? This isn't going to go farther until we start this discussion.

 

How are we to capture any of them if the team is unarmed? They are armed, with what I've imagined as large, bazooka sized weapons. Sending in anybody unarmed is going to result in everyone on the team dieing. I think the question now becames 1) Do we send an assault team or an airstrike, and 2) If we send an assault team, do they go in with lethal weapons.

How many airstrike supporters are there anyway?

 

After realizing that I have to step away from my caution a bit I vote ground team. As Blaze said, we need all the data points we can get and worst case scenario an airstrike is still an option. As for weapons, I say lethal. We can initiate with EMP, LRAD and some kind of gas granades but once the actual figthing starts I want our troops to get all the power they can get.

 

Hm. I'm not very good at this, am I?

Not really, an idea being brought up is always worth it, simply to get all the options out on the table.

 

I've kind of been imagining the directors talking in some kind of global teleconference, like the heads of SHIELD in The Avengers. There's no canon about the Foundation's headquarters yet, though.

Do we have anything that's worth a base? We get infrastructure, soldiers, weapons and other resources from the governments and it doesn't seem like we got any kind of tech in storage yet, so what would we gain from a base?

A secure method of communication would be necessary for something like this, though.

Edited March 4, 2015 by Edgedancer

[Blaze1616 he/him]

How many airstrike supporters are there anyway?

 

Joe brought it up and Lindel's most recent post has him in agreement as well. I'd like to hear their arguments of air strike vs. ground assault before finalizing my vote.

[Edgedancer he/him]

Joe brought it up and Lindel's most recent post has him in agreement as well. I'd like to hear their arguments of air strike vs. ground assault before finalizing my vote.

Yeah, I'm mostly setting my vote now, because I'm going to sleep soon and don't want to miss the vote.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

At this point, my vote is for a team of military personnel to, with A/V, use an EMP and then LRAD on the barn. They would then storm the barn, taking as much footage as possible while also attempting to take at least one specimen/hostage. We'd have an airstrips team ready on hand to destroy the barn if needed. Lethal weapons would be the only real option. At this point, sending them in with non lethal weapons is just sacrificing them.

[Redbird he/him]

I vote ground strike with lethal weapons, which would  be preceded by LRAD and EMP. And having the ability to airstrike on hand would probably be a good idea.

[little wilson she/her]

I'm in agreement with the assault team going in with lethal weapons. Blaze made a good point about the Chargers taking everyone out in the switch from non-lethal to the lethal weapons. Additionally, there's no way to be certain the non-lethal weapons would even be effective. Tranq's and the like might not work on the Chargers and even if they did, we wouldn't know what setting/how much to use on them. Best to go lethal with the weapons. The goal would still be to take a few of them alive though, if at all possible.

[SmurfAquamarineBodies he/him]

Yes. Ground strike with lethal weapons, ( though I don't think Mel Gibson and Danny Glover would want to go in ) i at all possible we will need to take hostages. How would we contain them? 

[Lindel he/him]

With the hostages apparently out of the picture, we're probably using lethal weaponry. Antitank rifles should do the trick, maybe throw in some truck-mounted or shoulder-fired rocket launchers as well. The main issue in weighing our options is lack of intel. We have no idea what weaponry the Chargers have beyond what appear to be automatic firearms. Perhaps we combine the two? The primary assault being on the ground, with air support during the initial conflict. 

 

EDIT: So here's the general consensus:

 

Send in a heavily armed strike team on foot. Begin the assault using EMPs and LRADs, and rockets, then close in with antitank rifles. If it becomes necessary, pull out and call in an airstrike. 

Edited March 4, 2015 by Lindel