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I've been thinking about Kaladin as a Herald a lot recently. I know Moash has what would be his Honorblade. I'm really curious what is going to happen, since none of the original Heralds were bonded with spren on their own and drew thier powers from their blades. Kaladin obviously doesn't need a blade, as long as his Heraldic ascension doesn't affect his bond with Syl. 

BUT, what if he fights Moash and reclaims his blade? 

We know that the blade has been corrupted in Moash's hands, so it would need to be cleansed somehow. But if that were possible, and Kaladin held the blade, in addition to his powers while bonded with Syl, would that make him stronger in those surges? For that matter, what would happen if he held a different blade? Would he have those surges in addition to his current ones? I can't remember anything like tha being brought up, but I may have missed it somehow.

Sorry if someone has brought this up before, I didn't see anything like it in my admittedly quick search.

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22 minutes ago, coldfuzion76 said:

I know Moash has what would be his Honorblade.

Actually, Kaladin manifested his own Honorspear when re-forging the Oathpact. So, I think he doesn't really have a connection to Jezrien's old blade.

24 minutes ago, coldfuzion76 said:

I'm really curious what is going to happen, since none of the original Heralds were bonded with spren on their own and drew thier powers from their blades.

Nale actually was bonded to a spren in addition to holding his Honorblade. Brandon has said that this makes you a bit stronger, but probably by less than you'd imagine:

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Questioner (paraphrased)

If a non-Windrunner picked up Jezrien's Honorblade would they gain Windrunner powers as well?

Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

Yes.

Questioner (paraphrased)

If a Windrunner picked up that blade, would their abilities be enhanced?

Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

There would be some compounding but strength is not as much an issue with Surgebinding as is the strength of the spren bond and how much Stormlight you are using.

Words of Radiance Houston signing (March 11, 2014)

 

27 minutes ago, coldfuzion76 said:

For that matter, what would happen if he held a different blade? Would he have those surges in addition to his current ones?

Yes. Brandon has even said you could get access to all 10 Surges at once if you collected the right Honorblades. I think we saw this a little with Szeth. I don't fully recall which ones, but I think he used some of the Honorblades in WaT - despite being a Skybreaker.

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Aradanftw

Let's say you wanted to be the Mistborn equivalent of a Surgebinder, having all ten Surges, would the best way to do that to bond at least five Honorblades or can you bond more than one spren?

Brandon Sanderson

You could bond five Honorblades. That'd be the easiest way by far. Because convincing multiple spren to bond you is going to be really tough, so by far the easiest way is just to get... you'd actually need all ten Honor... No, you'd need five Honorblades for the five... Yeah.

Aradanftw

You'd have to get the right ones.

Brandon Sanderson

You'd have to get the right ones and then you'd have all ten. 

Aradanftw

And then, there's nothing wrong with bonding five individual Blades? You don't have to have five arms?

Brandon Sanderson

You do not have to have five arms. You could bond five Blades if you wanted to.

Aradanftw

Really cool. Thank you.

Brandon Sanderson

Particularly Honorblades. 

Aradanftw

They're special.

Brandon Sanderson

Mhm.

Starsight Release Party (Nov. 26, 2019)

 

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Ok, I need to go back and re-listen to that scene, apparently! Lol. I really appreciate the detailed explanation of all of that, those mechanics make more sense to me now. I figured I hadn't been the first to ask that! 

But a showdown with Kaladin and Moash in their current forms is something I'm looking forward to anyway. 

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1 hour ago, coldfuzion76 said:

Ok, I need to go back and re-listen to that scene, apparently! Lol. I really appreciate the detailed explanation of all of that, those mechanics make more sense to me now. I figured I hadn't been the first to ask that! 

But a showdown with Kaladin and Moash in their current forms is something I'm looking forward to anyway. 

You're welcome. Another fun fact you may find interesting: using multiple Honorblades, bonding multiple spren, or some combination of the two would potentially give you access to new abilities by mixing Surges that aren't normally mixed.

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Questioner

If a Radiant uses an Honorblade or binds a second spren, could they get new abilities/resonances by having access to Surges that aren't usually combined?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes, they could. Indeed.

San Diego Comic-Con@Home 2020 (July 23, 2020)

 

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@coldfuzion76 It's impossible to avoid all spoilers, but in general you want to leave important plot elements of recent books out of titles, so it's probably best if you< edit the title of this title. Thanks!

I think Kaladin will just use the Spear he manifested at the end of WaT.

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14 minutes ago, Through the Living Hopper said:

@coldfuzion76 It's impossible to avoid all spoilers, but in general you want to leave important plot elements of recent books out of titles, so it's probably best if you< edit the title of this title. Thanks!

I think Kaladin will just use the Spear he manifested at the end of WaT.

Sure thing! Sorry, I'm honestly just enjoying my time here and got a little excited when I thought about this.

Thanks!

  • coldfuzion76 changed the title to Kaladin with an Honorblade?
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2 minutes ago, coldfuzion76 said:

Sure thing! Sorry, I'm honestly just enjoying my time here and got a little excited when I thought about this.

Everybody's done it at one point. I'm just glad that you're being active!

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