QF78: Hearts of Riches, Rhythms of Hatred [signups]

[Qianweilian He/him]

1 minute ago, coco.pudding said:

Yeah that would be really unfortunate

Honestly, might be kinda fun. Try to turn the game around while evading suspicion.

[IcedOutPenguin He/Him]

1 hour ago, Qianweilian said:

@IcedOutPenguin, what have you been doing? You’ve only done joke/retaliation votes except for jumping on the Akimiko train. I’m not going to take my vote off until you actually try and discuss. You are making me very suspicious that you’re a Regal and just hiding, hoping you don’t get called out.

 

Alright, bet, exe me, I'm too busy for anything in depth anyway.

[Through the living Wahr He/Him]

57 minutes ago, Stick. said:

guys i just realised that if they started out with only 2 elims then  there's just some former villager in the elim doc all alone right now wondering what they possibly did to deserve this

 

this is so sad............

Not necessarily, lets take a look at the Order of Actions, that HoidSlayer has provided in the Signup Post.

Spoiler

Stormform Redirect

Direform Roleblock

Inspiring Conversion Block

Conversion

Protections

Kills (resolve at same time)

Inspiring Vote Increase

Envoyform Vote Decrease

Discerning Scan

Sneaky Surveillance

As we can See, the Conversion happens before the Kills, Meiningen either Archer or Mist could have been a converted Regal with one Original Regal still alive. That could explain the Spren Situation with Archer, but in the end wont help much as in any case there is at least one Regal (Depending on Starting Numbers) and a Shardbearer running around, both of which is not good

53 minutes ago, Stick. said:

but dont worry our lovely GMs have been keeping me company

Wait, is this a confession to being the third Regal? Or is it just a joke?

Edited February 2 by Wahrheitswächter

[coco.pudding she/they]

20 minutes ago, Wahrheitswächter said:

Wait, is this a confession to being the third Regal? Or is it just a joke?

Almost certainly a joke, that would be a pretty insane gambit 

[Qianweilian He/him]

34 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

Almost certainly a joke, that would be a pretty insane gambit 

I mean...might as well.

IcedOutPenguin Stick.

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

VC:

Penguin (1): ThatOneWorldhopper

ThatOneWorldhopper (1): Penguin

TUM (3): Doc, Wahr, Jo

Mippo (1): TJ

Honor’s Ghost (1): Stick

Stick (1): Qianweilian

[Stick. she/her]

wow tough crowd 

 

but that’s a very interesting observation Wahr - and ur right, archer could’ve been a converted villa. i didn’t think about that (wow so villagery). but idk how likely that is considering archer was under some pressure around EoD time, and im guessing elims wouldn’t wanna recruit someone who’s likely to attract votes 

 

it’d be nice if he was converted tho cuz that’d mean i was correct in my v read of him yesterday lol 

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

tum for now

[Through the living Wahr He/Him]

Marne was tired he had things to do in the morning so he would head to bed for now, he had voted for a singer of unknown Name earlier today, except for sticks probably joke, and Jojalas Bluff nothing very suspicious had happened today, hopefully none of them got the wrong if he didnt react anymore today, but that was the downside of sleeping during the most crucial hours of the day. Hopefully he would awake again tomorrow.

yeah so its 11:30 pm for me now and i need to sleep, See you all tomorrow. 

Edited February 2 by Wahrheitswächter

[coco.pudding she/they]

6 minutes ago, Stick. said:

wow tough crowd 

 

but that’s a very interesting observation Wahr - and ur right, archer could’ve been a converted villa. i didn’t think about that (wow so villagery). but idk how likely that is considering archer was under some pressure around EoD time, and im guessing elims wouldn’t wanna recruit someone who’s likely to attract votes 

 

it’d be nice if he was converted tho cuz that’d mean i was correct in my v read of him yesterday lol 

I don’t think he was converted since he was acting pretty weird in PMs, I was definitely getting elim from him (my indecisiveness struck again and I didn’t get a vote in on time lol)

[Doc12]

Alright I'm back after doing some rule reading and thinking very hard about secret votes. One thing I did not consider is that I'm assuming that Akimiko, being inspiring, would have used her secret vote AND protected somebody, which on rereading the rules, she may have only been able to use one. So if she protected Archer, then she did not add a secret vote. 

So we have Drake who either used his secret vote on Mistfallen or Wahr and the spren player who told me they used their vote on Akimiko. That still leaves one person with a secret vote, so there is either a THIRD spren floating around or a second inspiring who used their secret vote on Mistfallen/Wahr. Of those, I suppose a second inspiring is the more likely. 

Given that the player has posted since my last post but chosen not to say anything, I'm going to put my vote on Honor's Ghost. They explained in PMs that they were just trying to cover their bets by making sure one of Akimiko or Mistfallen died by publicly voting on one and secretly voting the other, but I don't quite understand this reasoning, and believe they might have been trying to influence the tie by perhaps removing their public vote on Mistfallen at the last minute but keeping their secret vote on Akimiko. But then, why admit to both Stick and me where they put their secret vote? 

Apologies for outing you in this way, but I think that action was very strange. 

EDIT: Oh, and re: the Archer discussion - Did we forget Akimiko claimed they used their protect on Archer?

[Stick. she/her]

17 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

I don’t think he was converted since he was acting pretty weird in PMs, I was definitely getting elim from him (my indecisiveness struck again and I didn’t get a vote in on time lol)

mm but also akimo claimed to have shielded archer from the conversion so if they’re telling the truth then archer was always e

[Qianweilian He/him]

What? @Honors Ghost, is doc's claim true? Did you send a pm like that.

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

19 minutes ago, Doc12 said:

Alright I'm back after doing some rule reading and thinking very hard about secret votes. One thing I did not consider is that I'm assuming that Akimiko, being inspiring, would have used her secret vote AND protected somebody, which on rereading the rules, she may have only been able to use one. So if she protected Archer, then she did not add a secret vote. 

So we have Drake who either used his secret vote on Mistfallen or Wahr and the spren player who told me they used their vote on Akimiko. That still leaves one person with a secret vote, so there is either a THIRD spren floating around or a second inspiring who used their secret vote on Mistfallen/Wahr. Of those, I suppose a second inspiring is the more likely. 

Given that the player has posted since my last post but chosen not to say anything, I'm going to put my vote on Honor's Ghost. They explained in PMs that they were just trying to cover their bets by making sure one of Akimiko or Mistfallen died by publicly voting on one and secretly voting the other, but I don't quite understand this reasoning, and believe they might have been trying to influence the tie by perhaps removing their public vote on Mistfallen at the last minute but keeping their secret vote on Akimiko. But then, why admit to both Stick and me where they put their secret vote? 

Apologies for outing you in this way, but I think that action was very strange. 

EDIT: Oh, and re: the Archer discussion - Did we forget Akimiko claimed they used their protect on Archer?

Yur good I would do the same in that situation

 

1 minute ago, Qianweilian said:

What? @Honors Ghost, is doc's claim true? Did you send a pm like that.

It is true, I was covering my bases I didn’t trust Aki or mist I trust Aki now bc of the vote on mist but I didn’t then so yes it’s true

[Qianweilian He/him]

17 minutes ago, Honors Ghost said:

It is true, I was covering my bases I didn’t trust Aki or mist I trust Aki now bc of the vote on mist but I didn’t then so yes it’s true

Yeah, I agree with Doc that that doesn’t make a ton of sense. Stick. Honors Ghost

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

Just now, Qianweilian said:

Yeah, I agree with Doc that that doesn’t make a ton of sense. Stick. Honors Ghost

Sad

[___ He/Him]

Sorry frend, but honors ghost.

I haven't seen as much input from you as I would have expected, mostly just voting. And you seem quite reserved in PMs. In fact, you haven't responded to my last one.

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

Yur good Mippo mb lemme go read

I’ll try to do an analysis tn but Mippo your last pm to me was “Coolio” there isn’t much to respond to there lolll

[___ He/Him]

1 minute ago, Honors Ghost said:

Yur good Mippo mb lemme go read

I’ll try to do an analysis tn but Mippo your last pm to me was “Coolio” there isn’t much to respond to there lolll

I'm sorry I think I never sent it

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

Just now, mippo said:

I'm sorry I think I never sent it

lol your good

[___ He/Him]

Ok I'm sorry for that, but I am gonna keep the vote on you until I get good reason not to

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

Think I have to go Honor’s Ghost for self pres. Don't like the votes popping up on me for little reason

The problem is that we're almost certainly dealing with a convert here, so there's no connections to work from. 

I'm not fond of Jo, and he's who I want to look at next/if enough people are willing to follow me tonight. 

The convert is going to be looking for the Shardbearer right now, and that's exactly what Jo's gambit is doing. That combined with his push on me is worrying.

[Doc12]

Alright, I hope to be on a little before rollover tonight, but here's where things stand for me currently. 

Wahrheitswächter - I still don't quite know what to believe here, I think it's very possible they're an elim who Archer poke voted, but their indignation doesn't seem manufactured. I still find it suspicious that they were part of the Aki train, then decided to not vote altogether, removing themselves from the vote discussion. It's very possible that they didn't anticipate the Mistfallen train appearing and did not get on in time to change the results/were told not to interact as there were already 2 elims on the Aki train.

 

|TJ| as Taxill - Mild v!read. They've discussed mechanics and they were actually the first vote on Mistfallen. Has not voted yet.

TUM - Initially voted me as a joke, then started the Aki vote. Not much else. e!read.

 

A Jo in the Bush - I also received the Shardbearer PM. Could be a double bluff to make people not suspect him as a Shardbearer. Honestly do not think the Shardbearer is a priority right now.

 

Akimikoisthecutest - Strongest village read, obviously. I considered the possibility that the elims might have wanted to convert her because she would be cleared. And I don't know how to prove or disprove that, unless we have Discerners who can scan them. So far has not voted.

 

Honors Ghost - Strongest lead right now because of the confusing spren claims.
 

mippo - Mippo is kind of in the background for me. They were part of the Aki train twice before hopping on Archer. I was initially going to clear them as they ended the day voting Archer, but in an e!Mippo world I can see them telling Mippo to distance just in case. they were very clear they wanted it known last cycle that they were suspicious of Archer instead of choosing to influence the vote. I would also vote Mippo to see what happens.

 

Stick - Making a lot of elim jokes, which is par for the course. They play the same whether elim or villager which makes it hard to tell. Not willing to exe this cycle.

 

ThatOneWorldhopper and IcedOutPenguin - grouping them together because they're just voting each other right now. I do want to go back to the TOW train last cycle, but I don't have the time right now. Penguin thsi cycle seems a little short, but that's not unusual for them.

 

coco.pudding as Kiri - We've had some brief PM interactions, but nothing they've done has really stood out - last cycle they participated in the Wahr and Aki trains before also removing themselves from the vote.

 

Qianweilian - They are here and voting. Nothing really standing out either. Seems to mostly be following what other people are voting.

 

This day is a lot quieter than yesterday - where is everyone?

[Qianweilian He/him]

1 minute ago, Doc12 said:

This day is a lot quieter than yesterday - where is everyone?

It's Monday.

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

Hmmmm tow mostly for self preservation hopefully