Onyx Flamingo Posted January 12 Posted January 12 11 minutes ago, Scarlet Octopus said: Hey, just an idea, but what if Toucan and I killed Cham and Lion? thus eliminating the two people that haven't roleclaimed, while still doing a pretty safe kill. Lion claimed Vanilla
Melon Dingo Posted January 12 Posted January 12 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Taupe Gecko said: Alright, this is escalating and I don't want to cause any problems Dingo, I'm sorry if my response came across that aggressively towards you I agree that this is a game where we are here to have fun, but I think we can agree that we have different ideas of how to have fun Clearly, following thread directions is much more anti-fun for you than it is for me, and I understand that now Can we agree to disagree on this? Im not trying to "escalate". Im not angry or anything. the vote at least was meant to be somewhat humorous while making a point. Throwing your name in for CS was real but also still mostly performative as what CS is going to kill a player for a different player's OOG reasons? Like idk i didnt think there was much of a chance you actually get targetted. No youre missing what im trying to say. My problem is the "do what the thread says OR DIE" not the "this is who you should target" or "let's plan out actions in thread". Obv peoples actions can be suspect. Im cool following thread directions. Ive given them before and ive followed them. But I dont like the threat. Maybe I didnt say that clearly enough. The different ideas on how to have fun id the whole point. When you say, "If you dont play how we tell you to we are going to kill you" you arent letting people have fun in different ways. Thats the point. My initial post was just a call out. But 1 hour ago, Taupe Gecko said: Yeah I just really understood your point And I get it, but at the same time, it feels to me like the most logical course of action … That’s good for Octo This post did frustrate me because i assumed you actually did understand what I was saying and were responding with "sure i get that im saying ill kill people for playing sub-optimally, but its the most logical thing to do" Which is my whole point. If you think the most fun way to play is to kill people who dont follow thread directions, I think thats kinda weird but go for it ig? But there was a whole conversation a few years ago about the difference between annoying/frustrating playstyles and playstyles that actively prevent or discourage other players/styles from having fun. This is one of those. Edit: hopefully what im saying makes sense now. If not ill let other players figure this out after the game as im tired of being the one to have this discussion every time I played a game in SE. and maybe SE is moving away from the style of play I enjoy and thats fine too. Edited January 12 by Melon Dingo
Sunburst Toucan Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Hello word of warning the last time I can be online pre rollover is 8 hours beforehand; sorry. After that I can't access the Shard until rollover.
Taupe Gecko Posted January 12 Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said: Im not trying to "escalate". Im not angry or anything. the vote at least was meant to be somewhat humorous while making a point. Throwing your name in for CS was real but also still mostly performative as what CS is going to kill a player for a different player's OOG reasons? Like idk i didnt think there was much of a chance you actually get targetted. Honestly, I feel like the digital format is kinda bad for this since its hard to tell tone 2 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said: No youre missing what im trying to say. My problem is the "do what the thread says OR DIE" not the "this is who you should target" or "let's plan out actions in thread". Obv peoples actions can be suspect. Okay Let me see if I can lay out my thought process for you The purpose of the "OR DIE" part, as I'm sure you realize, is to provide pressure on players to follow through with thread instructions And I will admit, I perhaps did get a little carried away with it, but the idea is: Without any consequence, thread directions and plans are just suggestions for players to follow. And for villagers, that works just fine since they're already inclined to follow them. But with elims, if you're asking them to do something that is bad for the elims, then the choice is the following: either you pressure them to do it enough that they do, or you come after them when they don't The choice is whether you'd rather have the action carried out or deal with the consequences of it not being carried out Personally, I prefer the former, since it's more concrete results 7 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said: This post did frustrate me because i assumed you actually did understand what I was saying and were responding with "sure i get that im saying ill kill people for playing sub-optimally, but its the most logical thing to do" Yeah, sorry about that But where did you get the "playing sub-optimally"? What I'm saying is that the most logical course of action - the one that delivers the most concrete results - is taking any means necessary to ensure the planned actions go through, which includes giving the elims enough incentive (threatened execution) to carry them out 9 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said: Which is my whole point. If you think the most fun way to play is to kill people who dont follow thread directions, I think thats kinda weird but go for it ig? But there was a whole conversation a few years ago about the difference between annoying/frustrating playstyles and playstyles that actively prevent or discourage other players/styles from having fun. This is one of those. I will say I recognize how my proposals limit individual player agency, which a lot of people might not find enjoyable I'm not really sure what the best course of action is anymore And I'm just gonna throw this at the bottom cause re-reading my post it does look quite serious and I don't want to come across as too forceful or defensive , since you are making me think about stuff I hadn't considered before 2 minutes ago, Sunburst Toucan said: Hello word of warning the last time I can be online pre rollover is 8 hours beforehand; sorry. After that I can't access the Shard until rollover. I don't think much is really happening right now Toucan
Indigo Weasel Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Okay, I like the idea of coordinating our coinshots, but I don’t like the idea of publicly coordinating our Lurchers. As long as the Lurchers know who to avoid, the coinshot kills will go through. Plus, if we don’t coordinate the Lurchers, the Elims won’t know who’s protected and we have a chance at blocking their kill as well.
Taupe Gecko Posted January 12 Posted January 12 6 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said: Okay, I like the idea of coordinating our coinshots, but I don’t like the idea of publicly coordinating our Lurchers. As long as the Lurchers know who to avoid, the coinshot kills will go through. Plus, if we don’t coordinate the Lurchers, the Elims won’t know who’s protected and we have a chance at blocking their kill as well. But if we don’t coordinate our Lurchers, then if a Coinshot kill is blocked, we won’t know by who Then again, neither would we if we coordinate them and no one got hit… Ykw the more I think about it the more pointless public Coinshot coordination seems if elims have a Lurcher Toucan, Octo, good luck, may your Coinshot fly true
Violet Axolotl Posted January 12 Posted January 12 3 hours ago, The Unknown Medallion said: Night 3: Guilty of Murder <Callsign: Turquoise Gorilla> Aboard the SS TYRIAN, the Captain’s word was supposed to be law. The ole’ Vulture had been obeyed in every way, but now that Captain Amber was dead, and Captain Razer was in charge, it seemed like she’d rather keep her head buried in the sand then impose order. That left the Gorilla of Elendel to impose order. The Security Chief cracked his thick, koloss-blooded knuckles and walked into the pandemonium that was the mess hall. Shouts and food were flying every which way, but everyone shut up and turned to face Chief Gorbin when he fired three shotgun blasts into the ceiling at the door. He dropped the shotgun to his shoulder and smiled into the crowd of silent faces. “On one hand, I do appreciate the lack of immediate attacks coming my way, but on the other, we are being chased by a clan of Koloss-blooded pirates.” He wiggled his blue tinted fingers at them. “So if a different Koloss does come in here firing a gun. I expect you all to react better.” He scanned the room, now full of shuffling feet, until he found his target. He pointed. “Now then, Chiji Kaido, you’re being accused of fighting and murdering aboard this ship. Both Adonalsium-will-be-Reborn-Eventually and Klin the merchant were supposedly killed by you. So, since we are an orderly lot here, you’re under arrest. Not sure yet if I’m gonna deputize you or execute you, that’s up to the Captain, though I suspect you having stolen an Coinshot medallion is going to make the Quartermaster insist on you being made an example of.” Some of the crew looked like they were going to get up and defend Chiji, so Gorbin glared at them. “And, if Chiji resists the lawfully given order of the Security Chief during an emergency, I, and I alone, am legally empowered to execute him on the spot. None of this vigilantism business.” After a pause, Chiji did in fact stand up and make their way over to the door. Gorbin nodded approvingly and waved them out into the hallway in front of him. Then he turned to face the rest of them. “And remember, none of you should be leaving your rooms without very good cause tonight. If I catch one of you sneaking into the Comms Center, I’m shooting first and asking questions never.” Chief Gorbin ejected the three spent shells from his shotgun, then left with Scarlet Octopus. ─── · 。ﾟ☆: *.☽ .* :☆ﾟ. ─── <Callsign: Azure Mouse> Jochen’s mask always itched these days. But he could have sworn it was itching more than normal. Chief Gorbin was Jochen’s biggest suspect for the majority of the Medallion thefts. Only Jochen, the Captain, the Lieutenant, and Gorbin had the ability to unlock the storeroom door. Of those, the Captain could have simply requisitioned the Medallions and the Lieutenant wasn't the type to steal from his stores. That left Gorbin. Jochen followed Gorbin down the halls, tracking him with his admin permissions. The man was about to enter a room with only one exit. This would be Jochen’s chance to confront him. He was approaching the door when Former Interim Captain Fuchsia Razer burst out of a vent. “Captain Razer!?” Jochen stumbled away. She was holding a bag of coins in her hand, a Mistborn Medallion hanging from her neck. She gave him a startled look. “What are you doing here Mouse?” She looked at the door, then back to him. “They’ve been looking for you, they tried to—” “I know,” she cut him off. “This isn't the time. Stay out of my way.” “What? What are you going to do?” He asked. She grimaced, then Jochen felt something… shift. He felt slightly dazed. “I, uh, ok. I'll just wait here. But I need to get Gorbin's Medallions when you're done.” Razer ignored him and walked in the room. Jochen didn't even question the shouts, the sound of metal hitting metal, nor the blood stains on Razer's clothes as she disappeared into the vent. Once she left, his fog faded. He looked into the room to see Gorbin's fallen body. Former Interim Captain Fuchsia Razer was a Saboteur. ─── · 。ﾟ☆: *.☽ .* :☆ﾟ. ─── <Callsign: Salmon Meerkat> Dugh Thomas watched Chief Gorbin leave with Chiji, and started sweating. This crowd was riled up, and he had kept them all focused on Chiji, but without that the admitted murderer here keeping their attention, they might very well turn on him. “Well there you go Dugh, you got your wish, Chiji’s getting offed by that Gorilla.” Dugh didn’t quite see who said that so loudly, but a bunch of people did immediately look at him. “What? I didn’t, I just think Chiji’s evil because he stole a Steel Medallion.” He protested. “I mean, it seems obvious that if the Saboteurs are willing to blow us up, they’d prioritize stealing the Medallions that most easily allow them to kill us. It’s why I stole the Seeker Medallion, so I could find them.” “Ha!” Rane Cauthon stood upright and pointed at Dugh. “That just proves you’re a Saboteur. A true Loyalist wouldn’t steal any Medallion from Joachen!” There was silence. Almost everyone in the room shuffled uncomfortably. Rane looked around. “Right? A true Loyalist wouldn’t steal?” No one looked him in the eyes. The nameless scholar who had just kinda showed up raised a hand. “I didn’t steal a Medallion.” “Where you even here when they got stolen?” “No.” Rane sighed and sat back down. “Okay, nevermind.” Sullenly he pulled out a pair of dice and started to roll them back and forth. “Okay but thief or not, I think Dugh is evil.” Zense stood up to better address the room. Almost everyone recoiled at the bags under his eyes. Man had been playing his instrument to stave off ghosts for the entirety of the night, then spent all day talking. “There’s too much evidence to the contrary, and his story doesn’t make sense. He claims to be a Seeker, but most of his information was already public knowledge. He needs to go.” Before anyone could even try to refute or agree with it, Dugh’s nerves gave out and he bolted. He’d had enough. He really wished he’d stolen a nice Pewter medallion as he sprinted on unenhanced legs for the door. There were cries of alarm and calls of “After him!” He was tackled to the ground before he could even get through the door. He screamed as he fell, and smooth metallic hands picked him up and people began to tie his hands behind his back roughly. There were hands going through his clothing and pulling out items. The two most damning were his stolen Seeker Medallion, and the single link of the Continuity Chain that allowed him to command Adonalsium-will-be-Reborn-Eventually to attack Zense. The crew was somewhat surprised by his honesty about his Medallion, but the chain served as enough evidence, and Dugh was quietly killed. ─── · 。ﾟ☆: *.☽ .* :☆ﾟ. ─── Salmon Meerkat was executed. They were a Saboteur Seeker! Vote Count: Scarlet Octopus (3): Violet Axolotl, Quartz Zebra, Onyx Flamingo, Indigo Weasel Salmon Meerkat (6): Taupe Gecko, Scarlet Octopus, Plum Rhinoceros, Oxblood Beagle, Mint Heron, Melon Dingo, Ivory Dragonfly Plum Rhinoceros (2): Sunburst Toucan, Magenta Albatross There are no Living Tineyes. PM's are closed this cycle. Night 3 will end on January the 13th, same space time, same space place. PLAYER LIST: Reveal hidden contents Violet Axolotl: Fletcher (Past Lives) Taupe Gecko: H.E.A.R.T.H. (Past Lives) Sunburst Toucan: Ophelia Desci (Forgetful) Scarlet Octopus: Chiji Kaido (Silverist) Sapphire Elephant: Loyalist Mistborn Salmon Meerkat: Saboteur Seeker Sage Kangaroo: Saboteur kandra meal Saffron Iguana: Saboteur Kandra Quartz Zebra: Finch (Tinkerer) Plum Rhinoceros: Art (Stowaway) Pearl Chameleon: Neugier (Past Lives, Literally) Oxblood Beagle: Levin (Past Lives) Opal Lion: Dusk (Silverlight Scholar) Onyx Flamingo: Frisk (Past Lives) Mint Heron: Zense (Ship's Musician) Melon Dingo: Stormseeker the Wise (Returned) Mauve Crocodile: Saboteur Rioter Magenta Albatross: Rane Cauthon (Gambler) Ivory Dragonfly: Echo (Echo) Indigo Weasel: Third of the Tide (Liar) ... Ok maybe I should have read the rest of d2 What tf is this game guys Ok I just skimmed all that So what are we doing?? Who are we protecting? / Killing?
Taupe Gecko Posted January 12 Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, Violet Axolotl said: ... Ok maybe I should have read the rest of d2 What tf is this game guys Ok I just skimmed all that So what are we doing?? Who are we protecting? / Killing? Unknown and perhaps better left unknown 1
Violet Axolotl Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Just now, Taupe Gecko said: Unknown and perhaps better left unknown Alrighty I wish pms were open
Scarlet Octopus Posted January 12 Posted January 12 11 minutes ago, Taupe Gecko said: Toucan, Octo, good luck, may your Coinshot fly true Just now, Violet Axolotl said: I wish pms were open So do I
Mint Heron Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Wtaf did I wake up to We are an unserious village wtf 1
Violet Axolotl Posted January 12 Posted January 12 So how many elims are even left then? What's the most elims there's ever been?
Mint Heron Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Edited to add: 3 hours ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: Also, just realised, @Mint Heron - look, food for you! Nomnomnom Does anyone prefer me to hold fire in case I'm needed to ah, recycle a Lurcher?
Taupe Gecko Posted January 12 Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Mint Heron said: Edited to add: Nomnomnom Does anyone prefer me to hold fire in case I'm needed to ah, recycle a Lurcher? Low-key yes Actually no We have the numbers to tank a decent amount of cycles in a worst case scenario Go Seeker 3 minutes ago, Violet Axolotl said: So how many elims are even left then? What's the most elims there's ever been? Probably only one, which ACTUALLY, if the elims have a Smoker or Lurcher or whatever, they won’t be able to use it anymore… Also are we sure the Croc smoke wasn’t like Ele or something? I don’t know it just doesn’t make sense
Violet Axolotl Posted January 12 Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: Edited to add: Nomnomnom Does anyone prefer me to hold fire in case I'm needed to ah, recycle a Lurcher? What did you claim again? CS?
Taupe Gecko Posted January 12 Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Violet Axolotl said: What did you claim again? CS? Kandra Gen 67
Opal Lion Posted January 12 Posted January 12 [You have one new notification] MESSAGE TO CREW OF THE SS TYRIAN 1. It appears I was mistaken in my earlier evaluations (which is obvious in hindsight had I individually read people). My apologies. 2. Designation "Ivory Dragonfly" and "Taupe Gecko" are probably both in the clear. 3. I continue to have concerns on the distro. This was not anywhere close to what I had predicted. 4. In my opinion, the Saboteurs should almost certainly have firepower still alive if the rest of their team composition is fairly weak when compared to the potential Loyalist roles. If not, then there are likely more Saboteurs than previously assumed. 5. From my perspective, in cases where both Coinshots are Loyalists, there should be a Saboteur among the Lurcher claims (regardless if the claims are truthful), and one likely among the Mistborn claims. 6. If I'm being completely "fr" as they say, I am not the worst shot here because I do not impact accidentally shooting a strong Loyalist role, in case you want to clear the chance that I'm the Saboteur Smoker. However, I would rather not spend my valuable time dying after wasting so much of it to read your undignified chatter. 7. Has anyone considered if there is a chance that the Saboteur Smoker is actually a Mistborn? 8. If you decide to murder me, please send a copy of my work to my fellow scholars. Good night. [You notice a half-finished essay on space travel has been attached to the message]
Violet Axolotl Posted January 12 Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, Taupe Gecko said: Kandra Gen 67 Ah ... 1
Indigo Weasel Posted January 12 Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Violet Axolotl said: Ah ... Did you just…. do the 6-7 meme electronically? Im disappointed in you
Violet Axolotl Posted January 12 Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said: Did you just…. do the 6-7 meme electronically? Im disappointed in you
Taupe Gecko Posted January 12 Posted January 12 7 minutes ago, Opal Lion said: [You have one new notification] MESSAGE TO CREW OF THE SS TYRIAN 1. It appears I was mistaken in my earlier evaluations (which is obvious in hindsight had I individually read people). My apologies. 2. Designation "Ivory Dragonfly" and "Taupe Gecko" are probably both in the clear. 3. I continue to have concerns on the distro. This was not anywhere close to what I had predicted. 4. In my opinion, the Saboteurs should almost certainly have firepower still alive if the rest of their team composition is fairly weak when compared to the potential Loyalist roles. If not, then there are likely more Saboteurs than previously assumed. 5. From my perspective, in cases where both Coinshots are Loyalists, there should be a Saboteur among the Lurcher claims (regardless if the claims are truthful), and one likely among the Mistborn claims. 6. If I'm being completely "fr" as they say, I am not the worst shot here because I do not impact accidentally shooting a strong Loyalist role, in case you want to clear the chance that I'm the Saboteur Smoker. However, I would rather not spend my valuable time dying after wasting so much of it to read your undignified chatter. 7. Has anyone considered if there is a chance that the Saboteur Smoker is actually a Mistborn? 8. If you decide to murder me, please send a copy of my work to my fellow scholars. Good night. [You notice a half-finished essay on space travel has been attached to the message] H.E.A.R.T.H would like to clearly proclaim that he enjoys reading the Lion’s reports, scribbles and attached essays and all. They remind him of commands from his past lives, of documents of war and books of faith. Of news, both good and bad. They help distract him from the impending doom that awaits him.
Mint Heron Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Just now, Violet Axolotl said: What did you claim again? CS? Kandra of the 69th generation. I can eat Meerkat tonight and become another Seeker or I can hold off if we feel we might need more Lurching. Downside of waiting is losing tempo because my eating is always a night action. Side comment: I back @Melon Dingo here in that there are ways to coordinate without being too forceful about it and I prefer leaning towards them which is why I've not placed pressure on Cham apart. I'm still v tired so I don't want to get into this - in short yes agreed it cannot be toothless but it is often very easy to start gunning down players who disagree, no I don't think we were strongly getting there and if Dingo doesn't want to coordinate tonight he doesn't. There's...a whole thing here and more I can say being a player who ends up Village lead a lot but my GOAT is wrestling in Düsseldorf rn and I'm tired so later. More importantly guys: do remember not to just brute force this: we can solve it! Bbl.
Taupe Gecko Posted January 12 Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: Kandra of the 69th generation. I can eat Meerkat tonight and become another Seeker or I can hold off if we feel we might need more Lurching. Downside of waiting is losing tempo because my eating is always a night action. Side comment: I back @Melon Dingo here in that there are ways to coordinate without being too forceful about it and I prefer leaning towards them which is why I've not placed pressure on Cham apart. I'm still v tired so I don't want to get into this - in short yes agreed it cannot be toothless but it is often very easy to start gunning down players who disagree, no I don't think we were strongly getting there and if Dingo doesn't want to coordinate tonight he doesn't. There's...a whole thing here and more I can say being a player who ends up Village lead a lot but my GOAT is wrestling in Düsseldorf rn and I'm tired so later. More importantly guys: do remember not to just brute force this: we can solve it! Bbl. I say eat the meerkat
Violet Axolotl Posted January 12 Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Taupe Gecko said: I say eat the meerkat Agreed. We need seekers
Pearl Chameleon Posted January 12 Posted January 12 "Recommended course of action: beg a chromium ferring for luck appears to have worked. Mortals, you may thank me now." "Note: my paranoia core has supplied the unlikely but somewhat amusing hypothesis that the one performing spiritweb autopsies is simply reporting all execution victims as saboteurs. Playing laugh_track.mp3..." "Note: while all organics are unstable, members of the hemalurgic taxon 'kandra' are intrinsically more so, and their presence is sufficient to induce widespread volatility in any system of equations. This claim is mostly unrelated to the mental instability of members of the kandra taxon, though this may also certainly be present for certain individuals. Suggested course of action: disregard the distribution of medallions for the moment and focus on evaluating individuals for their merits and deficits." "Meatbags, I require additional orders."
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