MR74: The Politics of Gods

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

Alright

Let’s make this more interesting

 Not liking TwinStorm’s lead in this VC

BBB

Sorry Jo, had to wait until the last minute

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

You beat me by seconds.

I really thought with @The Unknown Hammerer dying C1, the Hammer rule wouldn't be used.

alright, 15 more minutes.

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

3 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Alright

Let’s make this more interesting

 Not liking TwinStorm’s lead in this VC

BBB

Sorry Jo, had to wait until the last minute

TwinStorm (3 or 4): BBB, KSauce, Coder, Willshaper, Bondsmith(?)

BBB (3 or 4): TwinStorm, Hoid, Bondsmith(?)

KSauce (3): Doc, Araris, Stoneward

 

It comes down to whether Coder and BBB are both Bondsmiths. If they aren't, BBB is exed. If they are, Storm is exed.

This is close. Too close.

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

5 minutes ago, A Jo in the Bush said:

You beat me by seconds.

I really thought with @The Unknown Hammerer dying C1, the Hammer rule wouldn't be used.

alright, 15 more minutes.

Sorryyyyyy

I seriously intended to post earlier, but I’m on mobile so I can’t see exact times, plus lag, and I had a mini heart attack for a second thinking I was too late

2 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

TwinStorm (3 or 4): BBB, KSauce, Coder, Willshaper, Bondsmith(?)

BBB (3 or 4): TwinStorm, Hoid, Bondsmith(?)

KSauce (3): Doc, Araris, Stoneward

 

It comes down to whether Coder and BBB are both Bondsmiths. If they aren't, BBB is exed. If they are, Storm is exed.

This is close. Too close.

I want it as close as possible

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Sorryyyyyy

I seriously intended to post earlier, but I’m on mobile so I can’t see exact times, plus lag, and I had a mini heart attack for a second thinking I was too late

I want it as close as possible

75% chance BBB is exed. 25% it's Storm.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

9 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

TwinStorm (3 or 4): BBB, KSauce, Coder, Willshaper, Bondsmith(?)

BBB (3 or 4): TwinStorm, Hoid, Bondsmith(?)

KSauce (3): Doc, Araris, Stoneward

 

It comes down to whether Coder and BBB are both Bondsmiths. If they aren't, BBB is exed. If they are, Storm is exed.

This is close. Too close.

Bondsmith is gonna vote BBB, but that still leaves 4 votes on TS and 3 on BBB, right?

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Cycle 2 is over, unless there is another vote that goes up seconds before this post appears. If it appears after this post, then too bad, you waited too many seconds. 

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Bondsmith met with every god over the next few weeks. With each of them, he discussed the situation, discussed the past, discussed the connections that bound them all together. From each of them, except Stoneward, he extracted a promise. An oath to listen to his chosen champion. Bondsmith had wanted it to be Matrim Cauthon, but the conspirators had struck first and fabricated evidence against the man. Bondsmith had to believe the evidence was fabricated, lest he begin to doubt his own sanity.

In the end, he gave his breath to the only priest that asked for it.

:-**-:

Zyvoxid Linezolid had taken it upon herself to arrange for the funeral rites of Leucosia. There were a number of oddities associated with her supposed death. For one, no body had turned up. The scribes had simply received her death certificate. For two, she had last been seen entering the Lifeless barracks, where she had no place. For three, the priest who had seen her enter it was not a priest she had ever met before.

"You said you were a priest of LightWeaver?"

The priest nodded as they walked in front of her. "Indeed sister. I swore to follow LightWeaver's teachings and see to her every need some years ago."

She nodded. "It's curious to me that LightWeaver was given charge over some of the Lifeless. Any idea why that happened?"

They shrugged. "No sister. I was not a priest during her return. Just a young acolyte in training under NightMother, do you remember her?"

Zyvoxid nodded. NightMother had been a strange god. The priest pulled a key out of their robes and inserted it into the locked barracks door. They stepped back, opened the door, and gestured inside. "After you elder sister."

She stepped into the hall of the barracks and observed the gentle slope of the hall that lead underground to where the armies waited. There were 4 lifeless guarding the way against trespassers. She began to walk and glanced over her shoulder to ask the priest a question.

The door slammed shut behind her. The priest wasn't in the room with her. She stared at the door in horror as she heard the key turn in the lock. 

The lifeless started walking towards her, drawing their weapons as they advanced.

 

The next morning, LightWeaver announced there would be an official audit of her troops, and a full investigation into the disappearances of two priests within her barracks.

:-**-:

Stoneward laughed when she heard the news. "Bondsmith wants us to keep fighting against conspirators, but then he goes and orders us around and dies? Nuts to that!"

Her head priest, Ua'pam, sighed behind her. She smirked up at him. She was the shortest god in the courts, which made her unusually tall priest just a little taller than her. A strange inversion of how most pairs were. He probably would have made a better returned than she would have. "Pammy, listen, I don't want to Bondsmith to have the last word. Gather my priests, I want to see if any of them are good enough to receive my breath. I'm not saying I'm gonna do it, but I want them to fight over it anyway. See if any of them are deserving of it.

Ua'pam nodded. "Your will be done, my god."

MR74 - C3: Ua'pam

Cycle 3 begins!

TwinStorm has been exiled from Hallandren on suspicion of Corruption and Murder! They were not Pahn Kahl.

KelsierApologist has been murdered in the night!

Stoneward has announced that he will give up his breath this cycle!

Final Vote Count:

Big Bad Bagsworth (3): Twin Storm, Hoid Slayer, and Bondsmith the Pious
Kaladins Sense of Humor Spren (3): Doc12, Araris Valerian, and Stoneward the Resourceful
Twin Storm (4): Kaladins Spren, Coder Dragon, Bagsworth, and Willshaper the Resolute

Players in order of Seniority:

1. @ThatOneWorldhopper as As If
2. @IcedOutPenguin as ___________
3. @Doc12 as Evi
4. @Amanuensis as Kosm
5. @KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren as Lharir
6. @CoderDrag0n8 as CD
7. @Hoid Slayer as Ekkar Loral
8. @Araris Valerian as Arlun
9. @BigBadBagsworth as Iggdraz the Confused

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

Bondsmith is gonna vote BBB, but that still leaves 4 votes on TS and 3 on BBB, right?

Oh no I forgot to move Hoid's vote.

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

Ahh it appears I miscounted.

So no one voted to give Bondsmith's Breath?

Interesting...

TwinStorm village is unfortunate.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

Alright. All y'all that said exeing TS would give us lots of info, let's hear it.

Also thank you elims for NKing an inactive. I still want to kill you all, but maybe a bit less now.

Edit: I'm gonna vote for Doc as soon as someone else posts.

Edit 2: Or maybe BBB, since Doc won't really be able to respond

Edited September 7, 2025 by Araris Valerian

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

58 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

as soon as someone else posts.

Lharir contemplated the loss of Bondsmith, Matrim and Zyvoxid.

Stoneward was next, Lharir knew, even though Stoneward didn't say it.

He was out of ideas now. He would wait.

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

Greetings, folks

I will return to my traditional analysis tomorrow; tonight, I need to go to bed

I think we know what Court everyone is in; if someone can compile that information, that would be great. I brought Araris and CD into the Court of the Protecting with me - we worship Windrunner now.

I don't know why the elims killed Polly; superficially, it doesn't seem to make much sense. I was hoping to interact with her more, so that's a bummer

Also, @Araris Valerian, you raise a good point about people not voting. Can we get a list of people who didn't vote last cycle?

Edit: Araris's point was made in our doc, in case anyone was going to be confused

I need to sleep

[Araris Valerian he/him]

31 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Can we get a list of people who didn't vote last cycle?

Aman, TOW, and Penguin are alive and didn't vote last cycle. I adjusted the numbers in the doc; I didn't account for myself. Penguin didn't vote deliberately, it's hard to say for the other two. If I had to exe one of them it would be in the order Aman, Peng, TOW.

As promised, BBB. I find your voting patterns suspicious given the flips we've had, at least if we assume that the elims have been voting each cycle. I'm actually a bit more suspicious of Doc but he's going to be away for a while and if I'm right the two of you are on a team together anyway.

[IcedOutPenguin He/Him]

If there are 4 elims, we've gotta exe one this cycle or we lose. If there's 3, we've got one more mistake we can make.

 

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

2 hours ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Greetings, folks

I will return to my traditional analysis tomorrow; tonight, I need to go to bed

I think we know what Court everyone is in; if someone can compile that information, that would be great. I brought Araris and CD into the Court of the Protecting with me - we worship Windrunner now.

I don't know why the elims killed Polly; superficially, it doesn't seem to make much sense. I was hoping to interact with her more, so that's a bummer

Also, @Araris Valerian, you raise a good point about people not voting. Can we get a list of people who didn't vote last cycle?

Edit: Araris's point was made in our doc, in case anyone was going to be confused

I need to sleep

Yes, we do. In seniority order:

Stoneward: ThatOneWorldhopper, IcedOutPenguin, Doc12

Willshaper: Amanuensis, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren, BigBadBagsworth

Windrunner: CoderDrag0n8, Hoid Slayer, Araris Valerian

 

Windrunner's Divine Breath ability... basically makes someone a Thug. It'd be disastrous if an elim got it. 

[Amanuensis he/him]

Sorry y'all, ended up having to work a double shift yesterday so I conked out when I got home. Now I'm up at 4am and can't sleep lol.

I need to catch up on yesterday but I think I'll park my vote on Hoid Slayer.

[Amanuensis he/him]

4 hours ago, Hoid Slayer said:

I brought Araris and CD into the Court of the Protecting with me - we worship Windrunner now.

Did you just pick the most active people? Or what was your reasoning for those two specifically?

Also Hoid Slayer because I'm catching up on D2 and reevaluating my worldview

ED1T: Yeah sadge, thought I was cooking but Hoid Slayer might be lock town for me

Edited September 7, 2025 by Amanuensis

[Amanuensis he/him]

Reads List (colorized)

Quote

 

• Hoid Slayer
• Araris Valerian
• Doc12
• KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren
• ThatOneWorldhopper
• BigBadBagsworth
• IcedOutPenguin
• CoderDrag0n8

 

@Araris Valerian can you explain your Doc and BBB suspicions for me?

Does anyone have a read on ThatOneWorldhopper or KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren? They are both floating in the null space of my gray matter but I would lean v!KSauce before v!Worldhopper at this juncture

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

1 hour ago, Amanuensis said:

Reads List (colorized)

@Araris Valerian can you explain your Doc and BBB suspicions for me?

Does anyone have a read on ThatOneWorldhopper or KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren? They are both floating in the null space of my gray matter but I would lean v!KSauce before v!Worldhopper at this juncture

TOW does not seem to post much, I think. He also did not vote last cycle.

@ThatOneWorldhopper, your view would help.

[BigBadBagsworth He/him/his]

9 hours ago, A Jo in the Bush said:

TwinStorm has been exiled from Hallandren on suspicion of Corruption and Murder! They were not Pahn Kahl.

Wow.

I have no clue what to do now.

[Amanuensis he/him]

1 hour ago, BigBadBagsworth said:

Wow.

I have no clue what to do now.

Some ideas:

- Create a list of each individual player's votes and the duration & severity of the vote / case against them; this can help us determine elim pairings

- Start building a town core of people you are not willing to vote and then interrogate the people you don't have reads of until you can form some

- Start considering multiple possible worlds (if, then) instead of picking the one you like the most and calling it a day

Edited September 7, 2025 by Amanuensis

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

Alright

*cracks knuckles*

Time for Hoid's analyses, part two

Cycle 2 edition

First off:

12 hours ago, Araris Valerian said:

Alright. All y'all that said exeing TS would give us lots of info, let's hear it.

 

I did - most of it was riding on TS being elim, though.

The only real inference I would get out of TwinStorm being villa, based purely on data from C1, would be to clear Aman for his last minute switch from TwinStorm to TUH, as an elim should have been satisfied with the exe of a villa and not wanted to shake things up

So Aman = Villa

Now, my real analysis: Once again, warning, this will be long

Let's go over the events of last cycle:

On it's first day, the cycle is very inactive. We open with some pokes: Me on Polly and Araris on Penguin. The first notable event is BBB and Penguin calling sus on the vote switches from Twin to TUH. BBB says e!Twin is his only read, and votes TwinStorm.

KSauce pops in, says he agrees with everyone else's logic, and votes TwinStorm.

TwinStorm rightfully pokes at BBB, asking for a deeper analysis, and BBB says he'd go after me if Twin flipped villa, which I don't quite get and would like some more explanation on @BigBadBagsworth.

Thread stalls until yesterday afternoon, when I make my big analysis. I vote TwinStorm under the premise of the information his alignment would give us, and me, Araris and CD have some good back and forth.

KSauce, interestingly, seemingly forgets he already voted TwinStorm and does so again.

Doc pops in with a slight analysis and votes BBB cause he wants a tie, but then organically switches his vote to KSauce.

Our current VC, roughly an hour before rollover:

    Penguin: (1) Araris

    TwinStorm: (3) KSauce, Me, BBB

    BBB: (1) Twin

    KSauce: (1) Doc

I will admit, during these events last night, I didn't realize quite the extent of the vote disparity between BBB and TwinStorm because of the way everyone kept including the Returned in the VCs.

Anyways, CD proceeds to do something interesting. He votes BBB with less than an hour left under the premise of making a tie, but then switches to TwinStorm last minute, saying he stands by his vote last cycle.

Right before rollover, Araris switches his vote to KSauce expressing that he wants to give people more time.

Disliking the fact no one is doing anything even when the elims clearly had their chance to save TwinStorm, I switch my vote to BBB in an attempt to change the exe. In retrospect, I should have voted KSauce, but once again, I wasn't fully aware of the true VC.

Penguin, Aman, Polly, and TOW are all silent.

Our final VC, counting only priest votes:

    TwinStorm: (3) KSauce, CD, BBB

    BBB: (2) Twin, Me

    KSauce: (2) Doc, Araris

What I get from this:

Using similar logic as my Aman v!read, TwinStorm was slated for death for quite a while last cycle, and the elims should've been happy with that. That makes me think that anyone who acted to disrupt that path is immediately leaning villa.

Namely, Araris for extending the time period and, to a lesser extent, Doc for supporting BBB as a rival train - even if he later switched out.

My reads:

First off, I'm sorry TwinStorm, but the more I look at your behavior in C2 the more I see you as village leaning and the worse I feel about your exe.

As for people who are still alive:

BBB is my biggest elim read.

C1, he made an odd first vote, accusing me of something many others had done. He then switches his vote to TwinStorm as a pile forms (which isn't incriminating in itself, though, as his reasoning is one I agree with even if it's a piggyback), and calls sus on Araris and Twin for starting trains without evidence.

C2, He single-mindedly attacks TwinStorm, and when urged to interact later in the cycle, claims he doesn't have anything else to say. At one point, he makes a list of people he'd like to hear from, but that seems to me kinda like someone in his doc told him to as there's no context for it.

Both cycles, pretty much all he does is sit on his vote on TwinStorm while acting weird. 

If BBB is elim:

In a world in which BBB is elim, I see it highly possible that CD is elim with him. CD was one of the few people BBB claimed a village read on last cycle (along with Araris), and twice now CD has voted BBB only to retract his vote in a short time span. CD also, in terms of net impact, joined the VC last cycle only to push forth the TwinStorm train to victory.

They also both voted me at different times early C1.

While it's possible BBB and CD aren't connected, it's certainly something to consider.

So CD, also elim leaning.

KSauce has also been acting weird.

He didn't really do anything C1 other than say he was leaning towards TwinStorm as elim, but not voting.

C2 he was a little more active, at least in his attacks on TwinStorm. He never gave his own logic, however. He popped in early in the cycle to quote a bunch of people, say he agreed with what they all said, and vote TwinStorm, and then popped up AGAIN in the cycle to say he agreed with what other people were saying and vote TwinStorm.

He also said I do strange things, so he should get exed for that alone /s

If KSauce is elim:

e!KSauce is compatible with e!BBB and e!CD.

Araris is unlikely to be elim with him, though, considering that last minute stall. Doc, I'm not sure what to think, but leaning towards incompatible.

Araris I'm conflicted on.

While my main argument on e!Araris came from an e!TwinStorm flip, and his stall last night is village leaning, I can't ignore the weirdness of Polly dying last night.

It just doesn't make sense, and in past games I've played, the main reason outspoken people haven't gotten NKed has been so that elims can hide among them. The most active person besides me on here is Araris.

Doc strikes me as village.

His attacks on BBB and later KSauce last cycle felt organic, and he's one of the only people who voted TwinStorm C1 but didn't do so C2.

I also just like his vibe, but I know that's not really solid evidence.

Aman I'm considering village, mainly for that move late C1.

And then TOW and Penguin I just have no information on; seriously, anything would be helpful.

So in conclusion, my reads are:

Elim leaning: BBB, CD, KSauce?

Village leaning: Doc, Aman

I'm figuring it out: Araris, TOW, Penguin

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

21 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

If BBB is elim:

In a world in which BBB is elim, I see it highly possible that CD is elim with him. CD was one of the few people BBB claimed a village read on last cycle (along with Araris), and twice now CD has voted BBB only to retract his vote in a short time span. CD also, in terms of net impact, joined the VC last cycle only to push forth the TwinStorm train to victory.

They also both voted me at different times early C1.

While it's possible BBB and CD aren't connected, it's certainly something to consider.

So CD, also elim leaning.

Why dont we find out? BBB

I do want to say, I have expressed in the past that my 2 reads were e!Twin and e!BBB, and I was unsure the whole time what the exact VC was (Like you said, it was confusing). My last minute vote switch was because I was very confused at the vote count, and thought that the Twin train had more people, and was an early e!read that we had not resolved yet. I also wanted to be on the train that got the elim. Again, I was wrong.

I, personally, dont think e!BBB makes me elim, but you do. So, looking at this from your perspective, it is better to exe BBB and that will show e!me or v!me. From my perspective, a BBB exe ends in only good. Either we get an elim out, and maybe I get exed next in the process, or my name is cleared. I dont see any other way to clear my name, and have no more e!reads.

[IcedOutPenguin He/Him]

13 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Why dont we find out? BBB

I do want to say, I have expressed in the past that my 2 reads were e!Twin and e!BBB, and I was unsure the whole time what the exact VC was (Like you said, it was confusing). My last minute vote switch was because I was very confused at the vote count, and thought that the Twin train had more people, and was an early e!read that we had not resolved yet. I also wanted to be on the train that got the elim. Again, I was wrong.

I, personally, dont think e!BBB makes me elim, but you do. So, looking at this from your perspective, it is better to exe BBB and that will show e!me or v!me. From my perspective, a BBB exe ends in only good. Either we get an elim out, and maybe I get exed next in the process, or my name is cleared. I dont see any other way to clear my name, and have no more e!reads.

If BBB is Village, we most likely lose

41 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Alright

*cracks knuckles*

Time for Hoid's analyses, part two

Cycle 2 edition

First off:

I did - most of it was riding on TS being elim, though.

The only real inference I would get out of TwinStorm being villa, based purely on data from C1, would be to clear Aman for his last minute switch from TwinStorm to TUH, as an elim should have been satisfied with the exe of a villa and not wanted to shake things up

So Aman = Villa

Now, my real analysis: Once again, warning, this will be long

Let's go over the events of last cycle:

On it's first day, the cycle is very inactive. We open with some pokes: Me on Polly and Araris on Penguin. The first notable event is BBB and Penguin calling sus on the vote switches from Twin to TUH. BBB says e!Twin is his only read, and votes TwinStorm.

KSauce pops in, says he agrees with everyone else's logic, and votes TwinStorm.

TwinStorm rightfully pokes at BBB, asking for a deeper analysis, and BBB says he'd go after me if Twin flipped villa, which I don't quite get and would like some more explanation on @BigBadBagsworth.

Thread stalls until yesterday afternoon, when I make my big analysis. I vote TwinStorm under the premise of the information his alignment would give us, and me, Araris and CD have some good back and forth.

KSauce, interestingly, seemingly forgets he already voted TwinStorm and does so again.

Doc pops in with a slight analysis and votes BBB cause he wants a tie, but then organically switches his vote to KSauce.

Our current VC, roughly an hour before rollover:

    Penguin: (1) Araris

    TwinStorm: (3) KSauce, Me, BBB

    BBB: (1) Twin

    KSauce: (1) Doc

I will admit, during these events last night, I didn't realize quite the extent of the vote disparity between BBB and TwinStorm because of the way everyone kept including the Returned in the VCs.

Anyways, CD proceeds to do something interesting. He votes BBB with less than an hour left under the premise of making a tie, but then switches to TwinStorm last minute, saying he stands by his vote last cycle.

Right before rollover, Araris switches his vote to KSauce expressing that he wants to give people more time.

Disliking the fact no one is doing anything even when the elims clearly had their chance to save TwinStorm, I switch my vote to BBB in an attempt to change the exe. In retrospect, I should have voted KSauce, but once again, I wasn't fully aware of the true VC.

Penguin, Aman, Polly, and TOW are all silent.

Our final VC, counting only priest votes:

    TwinStorm: (3) KSauce, CD, BBB

    BBB: (2) Twin, Me

    KSauce: (2) Doc, Araris

What I get from this:

Using similar logic as my Aman v!read, TwinStorm was slated for death for quite a while last cycle, and the elims should've been happy with that. That makes me think that anyone who acted to disrupt that path is immediately leaning villa.

Namely, Araris for extending the time period and, to a lesser extent, Doc for supporting BBB as a rival train - even if he later switched out.

My reads:

First off, I'm sorry TwinStorm, but the more I look at your behavior in C2 the more I see you as village leaning and the worse I feel about your exe.

As for people who are still alive:

BBB is my biggest elim read.

C1, he made an odd first vote, accusing me of something many others had done. He then switches his vote to TwinStorm as a pile forms (which isn't incriminating in itself, though, as his reasoning is one I agree with even if it's a piggyback), and calls sus on Araris and Twin for starting trains without evidence.

C2, He single-mindedly attacks TwinStorm, and when urged to interact later in the cycle, claims he doesn't have anything else to say. At one point, he makes a list of people he'd like to hear from, but that seems to me kinda like someone in his doc told him to as there's no context for it.

Both cycles, pretty much all he does is sit on his vote on TwinStorm while acting weird. 

If BBB is elim:

In a world in which BBB is elim, I see it highly possible that CD is elim with him. CD was one of the few people BBB claimed a village read on last cycle (along with Araris), and twice now CD has voted BBB only to retract his vote in a short time span. CD also, in terms of net impact, joined the VC last cycle only to push forth the TwinStorm train to victory.

They also both voted me at different times early C1.

While it's possible BBB and CD aren't connected, it's certainly something to consider.

So CD, also elim leaning.

KSauce has also been acting weird.

He didn't really do anything C1 other than say he was leaning towards TwinStorm as elim, but not voting.

C2 he was a little more active, at least in his attacks on TwinStorm. He never gave his own logic, however. He popped in early in the cycle to quote a bunch of people, say he agreed with what they all said, and vote TwinStorm, and then popped up AGAIN in the cycle to say he agreed with what other people were saying and vote TwinStorm.

He also said I do strange things, so he should get exed for that alone /s

If KSauce is elim:

e!KSauce is compatible with e!BBB and e!CD.

Araris is unlikely to be elim with him, though, considering that last minute stall. Doc, I'm not sure what to think, but leaning towards incompatible.

Araris I'm conflicted on.

While my main argument on e!Araris came from an e!TwinStorm flip, and his stall last night is village leaning, I can't ignore the weirdness of Polly dying last night.

It just doesn't make sense, and in past games I've played, the main reason outspoken people haven't gotten NKed has been so that elims can hide among them. The most active person besides me on here is Araris.

Doc strikes me as village.

His attacks on BBB and later KSauce last cycle felt organic, and he's one of the only people who voted TwinStorm C1 but didn't do so C2.

I also just like his vibe, but I know that's not really solid evidence.

Aman I'm considering village, mainly for that move late C1.

And then TOW and Penguin I just have no information on; seriously, anything would be helpful.

So in conclusion, my reads are:

Elim leaning: BBB, CD, KSauce?

Village leaning: Doc, Aman

I'm figuring it out: Araris, TOW, Penguin

I like your reasoning, but I think exeing KSauce this cycle is safer than risking  BBB is Village and losing, because I have been reading BBB as Village this whole time.