Clouding mechanics

[bmcclure7]

I think it’s created by charging Harmonium with copper and duralumin thoughts?

[Argenti he/him]

I'd presume so. Some mechanical, supercharged copper cloud. Maybe it's an awakened coppermind being fed with raw investiture?

[bmcclure7]

45 minutes ago, Argenti said:

I'd presume so. Some mechanical, supercharged copper cloud. Maybe it's an awakened coppermind being fed with raw investiture?

Hard to imagine weponized copper 

[lacrossedeamon]

6 hours ago, Argenti said:

I'd presume so. Some mechanical, supercharged copper cloud. Maybe it's an awakened coppermind being fed with raw investiture?

I think an awakened coppermind would being doing stuff with f-copper, not a-copper. Not sure though.

[bmcclure7]

1 hour ago, lacrossedeamon said:

I think an awakened coppermind would being doing stuff with f-copper, not a-copper. Not sure though.

Probably right, Still I pretty sure they used copper of some kind probably with duralumin 

[Argenti he/him]

1 hour ago, lacrossedeamon said:

I think an awakened coppermind would being doing stuff with f-copper, not a-copper. Not sure though.

I'm not convinced - Scadrian ships need a steel push boost to take off, and it's no coincidence that the one ship we've seen had an awakened steelmind.

Edited July 14, 2025 by Argenti

[bmcclure7]

1 minute ago, Argenti said:

I'm not convinced - Scadrian ships need a steel push boost to take off, and it's no coincidence that the one ship we've seen had an awakened steelmind.

That could be to just make it go faster I agree that given the name it sounds like F not A 

[lacrossedeamon]

27 minutes ago, Argenti said:

I'm not convinced - Scadrian ships need a steel push boost to take off, and it's no coincidence that the one ship we've seen had an awakened steelmind.

24 minutes ago, bmcclure7 said:

That could be to just make it go faster I agree that given the name it sounds like F not A 

Yeah I think steelminds are used for acceleration/deceleration in instances aether propulsion is not viable.

[Argenti he/him]

26 minutes ago, bmcclure7 said:

That could be to just make it go faster I agree that given the name it sounds like F not A 

Just now, lacrossedeamon said:

Yeah I think steelminds are used for acceleration/deceleration in instances aether propulsion is not viable.

Meh. I'd be surprised if they can't use allomantic metals, given you can store the ability to use Allomancy in a metalmind

[lacrossedeamon]

1 minute ago, Argenti said:

Meh. I'd be surprised if they can't use allomantic metals, given you can store the ability to use Allomancy in a metalmind

Maybe and if so they might also be capable of compounding which would make them exponentially more useful. But I would think if the metalmind is capable of using Allomancy it would use up the metalmind similar to compounding.

[Argenti he/him]

3 minutes ago, lacrossedeamon said:

Maybe and if so they might also be capable of compounding which would make them exponentially more useful. But I would think if the metalmind is capable of using Allomancy it would use up the metalmind similar to compounding.

You could probably feed it investiture or something. I dunno. 

[bmcclure7]

5 hours ago, Argenti said:

Meh. I'd be surprised if they can't use allomantic metals, given you can store the ability to use Allomancy in a metalmind

Since when?

[lacrossedeamon]

40 minutes ago, bmcclure7 said:

Since when?

Since they figured out unsealed nicrosil metalminds

[Argenti he/him]

5 hours ago, bmcclure7 said:

Since when?

Yeah, what Deamon said. The bands of morning, for one.

[bmcclure7]

6 hours ago, lacrossedeamon said:

Since they figured out unsealed nicrosil metalminds

Last I remember that only stored free investure like stormlight or breath not active investure such as abilities

1 hour ago, Argenti said:

Yeah, what Deamon said. The bands of morning, for one.

I thought that was through harmonium? It has been years perhaps you been a decade since I read bands of morning so someone correct me

[Argenti he/him]

9 minutes ago, bmcclure7 said:

Last I remember that only stored free investure like stormlight or breath not active investure such as abilities

I thought that was through harmonium? It has been years perhaps you been a decade since I read bands of morning so someone correct me

They can store the ability to use abilities in nicrosil, and with unsealing or whatever it's called, anyone can use it- even the metalmind itself, I bet, if it was self aware.

 

[bmcclure7]

1 minute ago, Argenti said:

They can store the ability to use abilities in nicrosil, and with unsealing or whatever it's called, anyone can use it- even the metalmind itself, I bet, if it was self aware.

 

Are you sure about that cause I think I remember reading someone saying that it didn’t do that pacifically and that instead it only worked on free investure again like storm might or breath. Do we have any examples of actual abilities been stored outside of harmonium? It seems to me like if you store abilities, you wouldn’t need medallions

[Argenti he/him]

21 minutes ago, bmcclure7 said:

Are you sure about that cause I think I remember reading someone saying that it didn’t do that pacifically and that instead it only worked on free investure again like storm might or breath. Do we have any examples of actual abilities been stored outside of harmonium? It seems to me like if you store abilities, you wouldn’t need medallions

The... Bands of Mourning?
They grant all feruchemical and Allomantic powers.

We haven't seen the actual force being stored outside of Harmonium- we haven't seen a iron pull stored in a metalmind, but that's not what I'm suggesting. I'm saying the awakened metalmind could just, use their metal. Nightblood can use the surges, as well as grant them, and they're roughly similar.

[bmcclure7]

45 minutes ago, Argenti said:

The... Bands of Mourning?
They grant all feruchemical and Allomantic powers.

We haven't seen the actual force being stored outside of Harmonium- we haven't seen a iron pull stored in a metalmind, but that's not what I'm suggesting. I'm saying the awakened metalmind could just, use their metal. Nightblood can use the surges, as well as grant them, and they're roughly similar.

Doesn’t the bands of Morning have harmonium in them isn’t that how they’re able to store Allomancy?

[Argenti he/him]

4 minutes ago, bmcclure7 said:

Doesn’t the bands of Morning have harmonium in them isn’t that how they’re able to store Allomancy?

It's said they are "oversized, spearhead shaped object made of all of the Allomantic metals." It's not stated directly, but given that Harmonium ignites in the air, and Atium and Lerasium are almost entirely gone, I'd assume it doesn't have the god metals.

[bmcclure7]

1 minute ago, Argenti said:

It's said they are "oversized, spearhead shaped object made of all of the Allomantic metals." It's not stated directly, but given that Harmonium ignites in the air, and Atium and Lerasium are almost entirely gone, I'd assume it doesn't have the god metals.

I see thank you it’s been a while since I read that book. I think it might even been a decade. 

[lacrossedeamon]

9 hours ago, bmcclure7 said:

Last I remember that only stored free investure like stormlight or breath not active investure such as abilities

Yeah for the translation medallions to work with non feruchemists it has to give the user feruchemy abilities
And so far Harmonium has only been seen used for the primer cubes.