Could you spike Moash to severe the connection to honorblade.

[Sythrin]

Can you steal the connection to a honorblade? Would than the blade just materialize and fall besides the person who owned it before.

Could you steal this way a shardblade, honorblade, awakened object without the need to spike yourself or kill the person?

[Qianweilian He/him]

2 hours ago, Sythrin said:

Could you steal this way a shardblade, honorblade, awakened object without the need to spike yourself or kill the person?

I suspect it would be possible, because according to Coppermind, aluminum spikes destroy investiture, implying you don't need to implant them in yourself. It might be easier to steal identity, especially for the awakened object.

Just speculating, you might not be able to bond the blade, it could potentially be bonded to the spike or the piece of identity/connection in it.

[Jult]

So, you want to spike someone to steal their connection, but then just pick the blade up and not use the spike? There's a WoB about stealing a Shardblade with spikes:

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Questioner

So, the fan page wanted to know. Would it be possible for Hemalurgy to steal a living Shardblade? That was the top voted question.

Brandon Sanderson

Ok, so you're bonded to a Shardblade. You get spiked, then they spike off the bond so that the Shardblade is bonded to someone else.

Questioner

I assume so...

Brandon Sanderson

But can they do it with a living Shardblade? You can definitely do it with a dead Shardblade because its just stealing the Connection. With a living Shardblade, yes you could do that 'though the spren could break the bond at will.

Questioner

So the spren would survive? That was the second-- the corollary--

Brandon Sanderson

Ehhh. Would the spren survive? The spren would survive as long as the oaths were--

Questioner

Intact?

Brandon Sanderson

--the person didn't break the oaths. But you could theoretically steal the bond, break the oaths, and kill the spren. If you wanted to. Its a very convoluted to kill a spren, they are easier to kill than that, but yes. You could do that. That is a viable but twisted route that you can do. You would end up with a dead spren and a Shardblade, so there is that. But there are easier ways to accomplish that...

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Based on this, I'd say your plan would mostly work for Shardblades and Honorblades. I'm not sure about awakened objects.

29 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

Just speculating, you might not be able to bond the blade, it could potentially be bonded to the spike or the piece of identity/connection in it.

I'd agree with this. Especially for regular Shardblades. I can't find much detail on the bonding process for Honorblades. If this is the case, then you really want to make sure the blade is already summoned before you do the spiking.. Otherwise, it might be stuck in an unsummoned state.

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

4 hours ago, Sythrin said:

Can you steal the connection to a honorblade? Would than the blade just materialize and fall besides the person who owned it before.

Could you steal this way a shardblade, honorblade, awakened object without the need to spike yourself or kill the person?

If you would like to steal their connection, IDK.

If you would like to remove it, however...

ALUMINUM SPIKE

[Nitpicking]

On 7/8/2025 at 7:17 PM, CoderDrag0n8 said:

If you would like to steal their connection, IDK.

If you would like to remove it, however...

ALUMINUM SPIKE

If you're doing Era 1-style hemalurgy, you're killing them anyway, so removing their connection to the Honorblade would be moot. (Heralds get reborn, but I'm assuming that destroying the soul with a spike would be as effective as sucking them into a gem a la Vyre.)

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

47 minutes ago, Nitpicking said:

If you're doing Era 1-style hemalurgy, you're killing them anyway, so removing their connection to the Honorblade would be moot. (Heralds get reborn, but I'm assuming that destroying the soul with a spike would be as effective as sucking them into a gem a la Vyre.)

Actually, the Aluminum spike just (theoretically) wipes all there powers. Then you stab, and they bye bye.

[Nitpicking]

10 hours ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Actually, the Aluminum spike just (theoretically) wipes all there powers. Then you stab, and they bye bye.

Granted, but making a Herald hold still to be spiked would kind of imply they're already helpless. I can't think of a time anyone used hemalurgy in combat. You have to get the victim perfectly motionless.

[Qianweilian He/him]

2 minutes ago, Nitpicking said:

I can't think of a time anyone used hemalurgy in combat. You have to get the victim perfectly motionless.

Marsh did it multiple times.

Also, that's why you would carry two spikes. One to use like a weapon, as we know misplaced spikes cause excruciating pain. Once you defeat your opponent, you can use the other. Spike guns would also be helpful for the former use.

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

4 hours ago, Nitpicking said:

Granted, but making a Herald hold still to be spiked would kind of imply they're already helpless. I can't think of a time anyone used hemalurgy in combat. You have to get the victim perfectly motionless.

 

4 hours ago, Qianweilian said:

Marsh did it multiple times.

Also, that's why you would carry two spikes. One to use like a weapon, as we know misplaced spikes cause excruciating pain. Once you defeat your opponent, you can use the other. Spike guns would also be helpful for the former use.

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[JustQuestin2004 he/him]

I think that this isn't quite going to work, at least it not in a way that would make it worth it.

Honorblades don't have as deep a Connection to their Wielders as a Bonded Shardblade does, if you drop an Honorblade, you lose the powers, you can't summon it back to your hand if you drop it like you can with a Shardblade. You can unsummon it and still use the powers, but that's as far as it goes.

This is like asking "Could you spike someone wearing a Feruchemical Medallion?", like sure, there probably is a way to do so, but why would you do that when you can just take the Medallion and use its powers for yourself, no soul splicing needed.

18 hours ago, Qianweilian said:

Spike guns would also be helpful for the former use.

I'd like to once again, say one thing on this subject: Full-Auto Spike-Guns, who needs pinpoint accuracy when you can just tear their soul apart through sheer quantity, so long as you don't care to actually steal anything from your target that is.

Can't get much more dead than having your soul turned into Swiss cheese. Wait, Switzerland doesn't exist on Scadrial, so I wonder what would they call cheese with holes in it? I guess it depends on who makes it.

[Qianweilian He/him]

5 hours ago, JustQuestin2004 said:

Wait, Switzerland doesn't exist on Scadrial, so I wonder what would they call cheese with holes in it?

Shardblade armor