Verdance he/him Posted May 14 Posted May 14 I will seek better morality, empathy, and self-betterment in order to serve others. 1
KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him Posted May 14 Author Posted May 14 6 hours ago, CoderDrag0n8 said: Mine didn't combine but then again, Truthbonders are canonically the best order (in my very objective opinion) I will work towards my goal, no matter how ambitious. I will accept help in my goasl, while staying steadfast on my principles. 2 Ideals! Congratulations! 3 hours ago, Verdance said: I will seek better morality, empathy, and self-betterment in order to serve others. Congratulations!
Through The Living Ketek He/Him/His Posted May 14 Posted May 14 9 hours ago, Verdance said: I will seek better morality, empathy, and self-betterment in order to serve others. Congrats!
Ink and Embers Any pronouns Posted May 14 Posted May 14 16 hours ago, CoderDrag0n8 said: Mine didn't combine but then again, Truthbonders are canonically the best order (in my very objective opinion) I will work towards my goal, no matter how ambitious. I will accept help in my goasl, while staying steadfast on my principles. 2 Ideals! Congratulations!!!! 13 hours ago, Verdance said: I will seek better morality, empathy, and self-betterment in order to serve others. Congratulations!!!!
Through the Living Potato He/Him Posted May 14 Posted May 14 Spoiler *sigh* procrastination… I have won this battle! Spoiler …but I will lose the war… Life before Death, Strength before Weakness, Journey before Destination. 1st Ideal of the Edgedancers Now bonded to Lyra 2
Verdance he/him Posted May 14 Posted May 14 2 minutes ago, all_cats_are_windrunners said: Reveal hidden contents *sigh* procrastination… I have won this battle! Reveal hidden contents …but I will lose the war… Life before Death, Strength before Weakness, Journey before Destination. 1st Ideal of the Edgedancers Now bonded to Lyra Congrats, fellow edgedancer! 1
Ink and Embers Any pronouns Posted May 15 Posted May 15 17 hours ago, all_cats_are_windrunners said: Reveal hidden contents *sigh* procrastination… I have won this battle! Hide contents …but I will lose the war… Life before Death, Strength before Weakness, Journey before Destination. 1st Ideal of the Edgedancers Now bonded to Lyra Congratulations!!!! Welcome, Radiant!!!!!
Keke They/he Posted May 15 Posted May 15 On 5/19/2025 at 3:31 AM, KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren said: BEWARE OF FULL STORMLIGHT ARCHIVE SPOILERS Speak again the ancient oaths. Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination. Does anyone remember early in WoK when Dalinar made Amaram a 'Knight Radiant', knowing he wouldn't get powers but would still try to embody the spirit of the Radiants? Well, I'm trying to do the same thing, except we'll all hopefully do a better job than Amaram. I welcome anyone who wishes to join me to say the Words and live by them. I have already said the First Ideal. I know the next Words, and will say the Second Ideal of the Truthwatchers soon. I know the Words. (Me from the future here - I said those Words and many more) Guide to choosing your Order You can simply do the Knights Radiant quiz, but you must remember that it cannot account for every single aspect of a person. Especially for things that make Lightweavers Lightweavers, but also other things. This doesn't mean that the quiz is always wrong, but it can be wrong. Another thing I want to address is that I've seen someone on the Shard say they got Truthwatcher but think that being a Skybreaker would help them grow as a person as they'd already be a good Truthwatcher. I disagree. You may seek truth, but do you always seek truth, even when it seems unreachable, or when sharing the truth would prove you're wrong? Can you accept that sometimes there is no truth? Can you truly do all of these things? So yes. If the Order is something you already do well but can do better, it's probably a good fit for you. Also, who says you can't be two Orders at once? We aren't limited by Nahel bonds here. Have as many Orders as you want. End of Guide You may be asking, "What about the Orders with Ideals that we don't know?" The answer to that: You should know the Words. Remember, a lot of the oaths are personalised, so even those that we do know can be different. But, when you reach that stage, you should know them. I know the next 3 sets of Words that I must say... I'm just not ready for them just yet. If you're doing this, do it not for Shards or Surges, but to become a better person. There is no Whimsy in this. Only Honour and Cultivation. (Adjustment from the future: a small amount of Whimsy is permitted, but the Words should be serious) Edit: Now that this is in Social Groups, Clans and Guilds, I feel the need to state this: Stick Radiants do not go here. Swear your allegiance to the Stick in the Cult of the Stick. Also, any other non-canonical Radiant Orders can go in the Bookbringer thread. Edit 2: Alright now I'm going to keep track of the current Knights Radiant. Hide contents @KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren - 7th Ideal Truthcaller (actually Truthcallweaver), bonded to Reaching-from-the-Past @Belandrius Ohhmar - 4th Ideal Stoneward @Kaladin Stormcursed - 6th Ideal Stonerunner, bonded to Unity (Guardianspren), 5th Ideal Lightweaver bronded to Foundation, and Unoathed @SpartanBrigade - 6th Ideal Lightweaver, bonded to Tapestry, and 4th Ideal Edgedancer, bonded to Cambium @Ashkaloda - 4th Ideal Truthwatcher @Riino - 3rd Ideal Stoneward, bonded to Ul'kuhuli @CoderDrag0n8 - 38th Ideal Truthbonder (Lightweaver+Truthwatcher+Bondsmith) bonded to Fourth Wall, Seeker, and the Oldest Dream, also Unoathed, bonded to Kkoma. @Tinwatcher - 1st Ideal Truthwatcher @Just A Silvereye - 2nd Ideal Truthwatcher @IcedOutPenguin - 4th Ideal Windrunner, 3rd Ideal Skybreaker, 2nd Ideal Elsecaller, bonded to Ichor @al_lan_mandragoran - 6th Ideal Elsecaller, bonded to Onyx and Hope (Therapyspren), 2nd Ideal Dustbringer @TruthwatchingRadiant - 4th Ideal Truthwatcher and 2nd Ideal Stoneward, bonded to Fogsight and Thraven @The Shattered Cosmere - 5th Ideal Windrunner bonded to Shamira @Heřãłðøfľõvê - 3rd Ideal Willshaper, 3rd Ideal Lightweaver @sneak spooky spook guy - 5th Ideal Windrunner, 4th Ideal Edgedancer @Doomslug the Arcane - 1st Ideal Lightweaver @Born of Mist - 4th Ideal Dustbringer Releaser, 2nd Ideal Stoneward and 3rd Ideal Windrunner, bonded to Ember @Weaver of Shadows - 2nd Ideal Lightweaver, bonded to Novel @Celloist - 3rd Ideal Windrunner, bonded to Kudos @ChipsAHoid - 5th Ideal Truthwatcher, bonded to Memory-of-Tomorrow @TwinStorm - 1st Ideal Edgedancer @Denisimo - 4th Ideal Lightweaver @NovaOmen - 5th Ideal Windrunner, 2nd Ideal Dustbringer @Hoid Slayer - 3rd Ideal Elsecaller @SourCandyLime - 9th Ideal Edgerunner @VieB13 - 4rd Ideal Windrunner, bonded to Kiva @AlastorBM - 4th Ideal Bondsmith @Ink and Embers - 3rd Ideal Lightweaver, 2nd Ideal Elsecaller, 2nd Ideal Edgedancer, 2nd Ideal Dustbringer @𝖂𝖍𝖎𝖗𝖙𝖊 - 2nd Ideal Upholder @The Wyver - 3rd Ideal Lightweaver, bonded to Pattern-Two-Point-Oh, Unoathed @YouCantHaveMySandwich - 8th Ideal Truthwatcher, bonded to Eloquent-yet-silent, 7th Ideal Willshaper, bonded to Fioritura @Ire - 2nd Ideal Edgedancer @KnightSkye Reforged - 6th Ideal Windrunner, bonded to Skyelarin, 3rd Ideal Dustbringer, bonded to Pyre @Beholder - 2nd Ideal Skybreaker @Deppresionspren - 4th Ideal Elsecaller @Booknewt - 3rd Ideal Dustcaller @Creation - 3rd Ideal Lightweaver, 1st Ideal Truthwatcher @Shatter - 4th Ideal Windrunner @IHadAThought - 5th Ideal Edgebringer, 3rd Ideal Lightweaver, Unoathed @Akimikoisthecutest - 3rd Ideal Elsecaller, bonded to Cypher @Funnynicespren - 7th Ideal Windrunner, 7th Ideal Lightweaver @First of the Tide - 5th Ideal Willshaper @The Grand Jesk - 2nd Ideal Bondrunner @AonDorSmiteThisGuy - 3rd Ideal Willshaper, bonded to Coda @Wahrheitswächter - 2nd Ideal Truthwatcher @FroggerCollectsHats - 2nd Ideal Edgedancer @aGoofyWillshaper - 1st Ideal Willshaper @Kaladist - 10th Ideal Soulbinder (Truthwatcher+Lightweaver+Elsecaller) @Conure1243 - 4th Ideal Stoneward @Rynturning_Light - 3rd Ideal Windrunner, 4th Ideal Lightweaver @edgyswordname - 4th Ideal Lightweaver, 3rd Ideal Edgedancer, 3rd Ideal Elsecaller, bonded to Opyl, and 3rd Ideal Worldshifter, bonded to 214956029 @Through The Living Star - 2nd Ideal Edgedancer, bonded to Coil, 2nd Ideal Windrunner, bonded to Ryil, 2nd Ideal Lightweaver, bonded to Flicker (hybrid order: Hopeforger) @Adonalsium Will Return - 3rd Ideal Stoneward, bonded to Avo @Fizz9 - 2nd Ideal Wingdancer, bonded to Vain and Bud @Factor - 1st Ideal Lightweaver @wyndle gardens chair - 1st Ideal Edgedancer @Jeffthe5thofJeffland - 1st Ideal Dustbringer bonded to Noor @Through The Living Grub - 2nd Ideal Truthwatcher, 1st Ideal Skybreaker Edit 3: Well later I realised some important stuff, so: Now, there are some things from the original Knights Radiant that, upon closer inspection, don't make sense for us. For one this, it is that the orders are divided. We already many hybrid Radiants. It makes sense, then, to allow for hybrid orders. The next thing is the limit of the Fifth Ideal. It does not make sense for the 5th to be the highest Ideal, because there will be times where you need a 6th. If no one had told Kaladin that there were 5 Ideals, he would've thought the 3rd is the highest until he learned otherwise. So, some may need less Ideals in an Order, some may need more. The final thing for now is the Skybreaker Crusade. I deem that this is no longer only for Skybreakers, and is also no longer limited to being the 4th. It is up to the Radiant when they begin one and what it is. Of course, we can't do anything like Rosharan Skybreakers did and fly around the world, but there are still things we can to prove our Radiance. Edit 4: We have Unoathed too now! If you're one of 'em, just let me know! Okay im reading wat so im gonna join this. I’ve kept track of my own oaths can i join now?
Ink and Embers Any pronouns Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Just now, Keke said: Okay im reading wat so im gonna join this. I’ve kept track of my own oaths can i join now? Yes!!! If you want to share your order(s) and number of oaths, KSause will add them to the list. Welcome, Radiant!!!!!
Keke They/he Posted May 15 Posted May 15 1 minute ago, Ink and Embers said: Yes!!! If you want to share your order(s) and number of oaths, KSause will add them to the list. Welcome, Radiant!!!!! Alright, im a 4th ideal lightweaver and a fourth ideal edge dancer! i wont share my lightweaver oaths cause those are personal but my edge danger ones are as follows, life before death strength before weakness journey before destination i will remember those who have been forgotten i will listen to those who have been ignroed i will love those even who hate me, giving others the benefit of the doubt. 4
NerdSandwich she/her Posted May 15 Posted May 15 14 minutes ago, Keke said: Alright, im a 4th ideal lightweaver and a fourth ideal edge dancer! i wont share my lightweaver oaths cause those are personal but my edge danger ones are as follows, life before death strength before weakness journey before destination i will remember those who have been forgotten i will listen to those who have been ignroed i will love those even who hate me, giving others the benefit of the doubt. cONGRATS, rADIA--- *hits caps lock again so it doesn't look like I'm yelling* Congrats, Radiant!!!! 1
Through The Living Ketek He/Him/His Posted May 15 Posted May 15 I say these words under no specified order, just as an oath overall: I will not be hesitant to try and be a better person- even if it makes me look worse to others. 4
Invested Flautist He/him Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Edgedancer Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination. I will remember those that others are determined to forget. 1
Through The Living Ketek He/Him/His Posted May 15 Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, Invested Flautist said: Edgedancer Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination. I will remember those that others are determined to forget. Congrats!
Invested Flautist He/him Posted May 15 Posted May 15 13 minutes ago, Through The Living Ketek said: Congrats! Thanks!
KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 3 hours ago, Keke said: Alright, im a 4th ideal lightweaver and a fourth ideal edge dancer! i wont share my lightweaver oaths cause those are personal but my edge danger ones are as follows, life before death strength before weakness journey before destination i will remember those who have been forgotten i will listen to those who have been ignroed i will love those even who hate me, giving others the benefit of the doubt. Welcome and Congratulations! 3 hours ago, Through The Living Ketek said: I say these words under no specified order, just as an oath overall: I will not be hesitant to try and be a better person- even if it makes me look worse to others. Congratulations! 1 hour ago, Invested Flautist said: Edgedancer Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination. I will remember those that others are determined to forget. Welcome and Congratulations!
Fizz9 Posted May 15 Posted May 15 (edited) Thing is I know my next oaths, but I really don't want to swear them... Edited May 15 by Fizz9 3
Verdance he/him Posted May 15 Posted May 15 2 hours ago, Fizz9 said: Thing is I know my next oaths, but I really don't want to swear them... That will make them all the more meaningful when you do!
Invested Flautist He/him Posted May 16 Posted May 16 39 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren said: Welcome and Congratulations! Congratulations! Welcome and Congratulations! Thank you!
Through The Living Star She/Her Posted May 16 Posted May 16 I know one next oath I'm supposed to say, but that one is a little too... Yeah I'm not ready for that one. But, I ended up swearing a different one instead. Sometimes, things are out of my control, and that's okay. I don't have to control everything. Hopeforger 5th ideal, Lightweaver based.
Verdance he/him Posted May 16 Posted May 16 24 minutes ago, Through The Living Star said: I know one next oath I'm supposed to say, but that one is a little too... Yeah I'm not ready for that one. But, I ended up swearing a different one instead. Sometimes, things are out of my control, and that's okay. I don't have to control everything. Hopeforger 5th ideal, Lightweaver based. What is a Hopeforger?
Ink and Embers Any pronouns Posted May 16 Posted May 16 12 hours ago, Through The Living Ketek said: I say these words under no specified order, just as an oath overall: I will not be hesitant to try and be a better person- even if it makes me look worse to others. Congratulations!!! Cool oath!!! 11 hours ago, Invested Flautist said: Edgedancer Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination. I will remember those that others are determined to forget. Welcome to the Knights Radiant!!! 3 hours ago, Through The Living Star said: I know one next oath I'm supposed to say, but that one is a little too... Yeah I'm not ready for that one. But, I ended up swearing a different one instead. Sometimes, things are out of my control, and that's okay. I don't have to control everything. Hopeforger 5th ideal, Lightweaver based. Congratulations! You've got this!!! I've been failing to swear my third Edgedancer Ideal for 9 months now, which is ironic because I thought it would be easier than the second for me. But nope. I'll get there eventually, but I don't think I know the words yet.
Through The Living Ketek He/Him/His Posted May 17 Posted May 17 Focusing on my progress alone and how I will reach higher directly causes me to always fall short. I must accept that while I must help others, I must let others help me. I will not compare myself to others- envy is a setback, not a motivation. One of these is West's; who does not want to disclose which.
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