Quick Fix 75: The Tower's Pressure

[Kasimir he/him]

3 minutes ago, KelsierApologist said:

This is kind of weird without an attached vote, whereas Spirit’s on striker. Main suspect for sure

Tbh I go the other way. I feel like E!Spirit knows to get the bussing vote in early. It's TOW not voting that looks okay to me, along with TOW voting TJ C1. But I don't fundamentally disagree with the PoE. I just do not want to see side-train adventurism right now guys >> 

I'm also minded to respect Aet's read here as he's slightly better at dealing with newer players than me.

This game is just meant to be a clown game for me man. Evil bros and new players, it's just everything I can't read

I say, as I come here off the back of another game where I got dogwalked by the Elims.

Edited to add:

Just now, BigBadBagsworth said:

Wait. What happens if v!striker?

Then you become Pope.

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Just now, BigBadBagsworth said:

Wait. What happens if v!striker?

Then we all lose. Which is basically how I'm feeling right now

[BigBadBagsworth He/him/his]

1 minute ago, Kasimir said:

Then you become Pope.

? No understand 

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

1 minute ago, StrikerEZ said:

Then we all lose. Which is basically how I'm feeling right now

Keep your lies to yourself Wormtongue.

Just now, BigBadBagsworth said:

? No understand 

Striker is V in exactly 0 worlds. Edit: which is also how many worlds you become the Pope in.

Edited May 26, 2025 by The Unknown Order

[OoklaApologist She/her]

2 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

TOW voting TJ C1

I forgot about that lol. So yeah, Lord Spirit probably.

[BigBadBagsworth He/him/his]

How many Elims could reasonably be left? 1-3?

[OoklaApologist She/her]

2 minutes ago, The Unknown Order said:

Striker is V in exactly 0 worlds. Edit: which is also how many worlds you become the Pope in.

You know, I figure I’m the most likely to become pope out of all of us

1 minute ago, BigBadBagsworth said:

How many Elims could reasonably be left? 1-3?

1-2, hopefully. 3 assumes we get the shot and the ricochet both right, which is rough

[Kasimir he/him]

Just now, BigBadBagsworth said:

? No understand 

I'm saying it's such an impossible world you might as well become Pope in it  Or IDK, King of Alethkar if you prefer.

My more serious/less dismissive answer because I think you are correct to ask regardless, even though I'm 90% sure Striker is the correct Elim here - IMO in that world, then we quite simply need to redo vote analysis because this means that TJ was saved by a Villager, and that the Penguin shenanigans happened via Striker, also a Villager.

I would probably still think TUN and Polly are surefire clean, think I'd respect Aet's read on you and on TOW, for me that means Spirit as the next shot. However, there are two things we need to consider:

A. The Penguin Soothe massacre IMO was premeditated. If you were online, you know better than me who was around who could've pulled it off. They would need to be able to react to the timing of Striker's post. Which points to E!Striker too, but in V!Striker world, you tell me who that was.

B. I would probably not revise Polly and TUN prior to Spirit flipping regardless. I still go back to my line v. Penguin on the start of C5 - if you voted TJ, you deserve some credit, and that ekes him out a bit ahead of Spirit in my view. Polly is solidly Village due to the double TJ votes early on (you can respect Aet's read there if you like), and I'd argue Penguin pushing TUN that recklessly until I blocked him suggests Penguin was trying to follow the TUN set-up line of reasoning.

But yeah, Striker's the best shot for the TJ save, Penguin Night Massace, the fact that as I pointed out contra Penguin, Striker is second in line to benefit from the Soothing, alongside TJ, and most importantly, bro is just openwoofing in thread right now.

No reasonable Villager goes "yeah you know what I wanna live I'll just vote top train" right off the karking bat and then votes Polly. That says "I don't care who's Village and who's Evil" and that's outright Elim in attitude, and while I've honestly given Striker a lot of leeway assuming both rust and his playstyle being naturally Elim, this is not something I can overlook anymore.

[BigBadBagsworth He/him/his]

So what happens after we flip striker? You think we flip Spirit, just cuz everyone else seems like V?

[StrikerEZ he/him]

7 minutes ago, The Unknown Order said:

Keep your lies to yourself Wormtongue.

I speak only the truth.

6 minutes ago, BigBadBagsworth said:

How many Elims could reasonably be left? 1-3?

There's actually 6 left. This is all a dream Triple B, you gotta wake up.

2 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

But yeah, Striker's the best shot for the TJ save, Penguin Night Massace, the fact that as I pointed out contra Penguin, Striker is second in line to benefit from the Soothing, alongside TJ, and most importantly, bro is just openwoofing in thread right now.

I'm not openwolfing, I'm WalkingDeadVillagering. Obviously.

3 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

No reasonable Villager goes "yeah you know what I wanna live I'll just vote top train" right off the karking bat and then votes Polly. That says "I don't care who's Village and who's Evil" and that's outright Elim in attitude, and while I've honestly given Striker a lot of leeway assuming both rust and his playstyle being naturally Elim, this is not something I can overlook anymore.

You can't overlook it for one more cycle? Not even for old pals?

Also I'm sad no one even commented on my offer for a meta game of mafia within this game. I think it's a great idea. I'd even vote for myself if I lose the meta game.

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

Hey @StrikerEZ how much are you regretting soothing those votes off me right now?

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Just now, The Unknown Order said:

Hey @StrikerEZ how much are you regretting soothing those votes off me right now?

0% actually

[BigBadBagsworth He/him/his]

1 minute ago, StrikerEZ said:

I speak only the truth.

good thing you’re writing, eh?

[Kasimir he/him]

1 minute ago, StrikerEZ said:

Also I'm sad no one even commented on my offer for a meta game of mafia within this game. I think it's a great idea. I'd even vote for myself if I lose the meta game.

I came off three disaster mafia games into this one and am going into two more tomorrow because I owe someone a favour though I might be pulling out on health grounds.

I'm cool with chilling in the thread but I don't have the energy for this man.

2 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said:

You can't overlook it for one more cycle? Not even for old pals?

Sorry, I gave you a lot of leeway as it was  Probably more than I should've.

Alas, your TJ/Kas/Striker dreams will have to wait for a time it legitimately happens rather than when I go easy on my bros who ended up being Evil. I'll give you respect for your casual entrance though - I did say it was within your abilities to pull it off, but you did it more convincingly than TJ did.

[OoklaApologist She/her]

1 minute ago, StrikerEZ said:

0% actually

Striker, could you soothe me? I regret not voting c4

[StrikerEZ he/him]

3 minutes ago, BigBadBagsworth said:

good thing you’re writing, eh?

Okay, lemme clarify: any form of communication I participate in results in only truth being conveyed.

1 minute ago, Kasimir said:

I came off three disaster mafia games into this one and am going into two more tomorrow because I owe someone a favour though I might be pulling out on health grounds.

I'm cool with chilling in the thread but I don't have the energy for this man.

Sorry, I gave you a lot of leeway as it was  Probably more than I should've.

Alas, your TJ/Kas/Striker dreams will have to wait for a time it legitimately happens rather than when I go easy on my bros who ended up being Evil. I'll give you respect for your casual entrance though - I did say it was within your abilities to pull it off, but you did it more convincingly than TJ did.

Okay, so no meta mafia. But what if we did like...rock paper scissors in thread. I think that's a really good way to decide if you guys should vote me out or not.

Just now, KelsierApologist said:

Striker, could you soothe me? I regret not voting c4

Okay, but only if I get something in return.

[OoklaApologist She/her]

7 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said:

Also I'm sad no one even commented on my offer for a meta game of mafia within this game. I think it's a great idea. I'd even vote for myself if I lose the meta game.

We can do that thing I see on tiktok where everyone gets asked a question in secret and they answer in thread, but the elims get a different question.

I can GM if you want

[BigBadBagsworth He/him/his]

OK, at this point, I think we’re blatantly bullying striker. Just because we found out his role and he’s ineffectively denying it doens’t mean we have to mercilessly tease him about it.

[OoklaApologist She/her]

Signups open now

[BigBadBagsworth He/him/his]

Also @KelsierApologist that’s similar to a game I’ve seen called Chameleon

[OoklaApologist She/her]

2 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said:

no meta mafia

come on…

Just now, BigBadBagsworth said:

Also @KelsierApologist that’s similar to a game I’ve seen called Chameleon

Probably is called that, idk the name of the top of my head

[BigBadBagsworth He/him/his]

Also, Skyward/frugal wizard meme I made that I really want to share:

[StrikerEZ he/him]

5 minutes ago, KelsierApologist said:

We can do that thing I see on tiktok where everyone gets asked a question in secret and they answer in thread, but the elims get a different question.

I can GM if you want

If you just give me the different question...I'll be mildly amused

5 minutes ago, BigBadBagsworth said:

OK, at this point, I think we’re blatantly bullying striker. Just because we found out his role and he’s ineffectively denying it doens’t mean we have to mercilessly tease him about it.

Serious hat on: I'm perfectly okay with the state of the thread. I know what I'm doing and what's going on and what everyone else is doing. It's all in good fun and you don't gotta worry about me. I really do appreciate the concern though!

5 minutes ago, KelsierApologist said:

Signups open now

I'll sign up!

EDIT: Rephrasing a sentence because I didn't like the way I grammar'd it

Edited May 26, 2025 by StrikerEZ

[Kasimir he/him]

1 minute ago, BigBadBagsworth said:

OK, at this point, I think we’re blatantly bullying striker. Just because we found out his role and he’s ineffectively denying it doens’t mean we have to mercilessly tease him about it.

Good on you for looking out for this, but just to note: He's not ineffectively denying it btw. He's choosing not to, hence the openwoofing comment. We're mostly playing along ( @StrikerEZ, might wanna correct if wrong.) Also hence my concerns because an Elim usually only openwoofs if they feel they've got no reasonable fighting chance, or if they've got the game won/locked.

In those situations it's usually* considered a highlight of the experience.

*I only openwoofed once but there are some players here who love to openwoof when they can.

[StrikerEZ he/him]

2 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

*I only openwoofed once but there are some players here who love to openwoof when they can.

Openwolfing is really fun. Not like I've had a chance to do it any time recently though.