Time manipulating fabrials

[Epicdaf]

I'm not sure if this has been talked about before, but I recently thought of how a time manipulating fabrial could be created akin to the time bending devices in Scadrial. Potential Spoilers for THE LOST METAL. 

So, my theory is very simple. We know logic Spren are what make the time fabrials (clocks and watches) work. As for the composition of the fabrials cage, we are still not sure which metal it uses. 
However, if an artifabrian was to get their hands on some Cadmium and Bendalloy, theoretically speaking, they could manipulate time by slowing or speeding it as long as they gave enough investiture to feed it. 
Moreover if you were to combine metal cages, you may be able to increase or decrease the area of effect by using pulling and pushing metals. 
I believe this could have interesting applications for Arch 2 or even the wider Cosmere. 
What are you thoughts on this? 

[JustQuestin2004 he/him]

I think that Time-Bubble Fabrials are definitely going to be a thing, but I don't think that Roshar will be the one's to invent them. They just lack the right abilities to experiment with them. Surgebinding doesn't grant any type of control over time itself, so I don't think the idea of that being possible would occur to Artifabrians for them to start trying to build them.

7 minutes ago, Epicdaf said:

However, if an artifabrian was to get their hands on some Cadmium and Bendalloy, theoretically speaking, they could manipulate time by slowing or speeding it as long as they gave enough investiture to feed it. 

Now I like your enthusiasm, but I feel it necessary to tell you that while the metals used in Fabrials do correspond with Allomancy, it is not absolute. Iron and Steel can create attractor and repelling Fabrials, Pewter makes augmenters that enhance a particular thing, but tin does the opposite, it does not enhance senses it reduces a particular thing like pain and heat.

So, while cadmium and bendalloy, which are currently unknown to Roshar, could in theory be used like you say, there is no confirmation and I feel it is unlikely that all metals can be used to directly copy the effects of Allomancy.

[Epicdaf]

@JustQuestin2004 Thanks for the feedback. 
As far as we know those metals are still unknown in Roshar. It's very interesting that the Allomantic Metals don't translate to Fabrial effects on a one-to-basis. However Malatium and Electrum could also have curious effects on Fabrials if the Rosharians were able to get their hands on them. Maybe a friendly world-hopping kandra could supply it? Who knows. 
I've seen some interesting theories floating around regarding nicrosil and other allomantic/feruchemical metals being applied to fabrials. As of yet, we still having seen any fabrial interact with the spiritual real. Maybe a Bondsmith with Artifabrian tech could find the key to making a new kind of spiritual connection fabrial. 

[JustQuestin2004 he/him]

54 minutes ago, Epicdaf said:

As far as we know those metals are still unknown in Roshar. It's very interesting that the Allomantic Metals don't translate to Fabrial effects on a one-to-basis. However Malatium and Electrum could also have curious effects on Fabrials if the Rosharians were able to get their hands on them. Maybe a friendly world-hopping kandra could supply it? Who knows. 

It seems rather reasonable that the only practical way that the Rosharans will learn of the other metals will be through Worldhoppers bringing their own to experiment with, then using Soulcasting to make more of them.

54 minutes ago, Epicdaf said:

I've seen some interesting theories floating around regarding nicrosil and other allomantic/feruchemical metals being applied to fabrials. As of yet, we still having seen any fabrial interact with the spiritual real. Maybe a Bondsmith with Artifabrian tech could find the key to making a new kind of spiritual connection fabrial. 

Well, we do know that:

Yumi Spoilers

Spoiler

In the future, special kinds of Fabrials known as Aura Fabrials, are capable of reading the Spiritwebs of others. Measuring how Invested they are, tracking their Connection to places and other people, it even works on non-Physical beings like Cognitive Shadows.

So yeah, we've only scratched the surface as to what's possible with Fabrials.

Although perhaps some people will be inspired by recent events on Roshar, specifically:

Wind and Truth Spoilers

Spoiler

Due to Taravangian, the entire planet of Roshar is stuck in a Time Bubble that has slowed everything on it down for the next couple of decades for the rest of the Cosmere, so maybe this event will inspire Artifabrians to start trying to mess with time?

[Epicdaf]

Thanks @JustQuestin2004 for the info on Yumi and WAT. Still need make my way to those, but not long now. 

 

[JustQuestin2004 he/him]

1 hour ago, Epicdaf said:

Thanks @JustQuestin2004 for the info on Yumi and WAT. Still need make my way to those, but not long now. 

 

All good, they both made me cry, and any book that makes me invested enough to cry is a good read.

[Epicdaf]

I can't wait to finish WAT. Still have all the secret projects to read as well until the next book releases. 

[#1 Taln Fan he/him]

5 hours ago, Epicdaf said:

I'm not sure if this has been talked about before, but I recently thought of how a time manipulating fabrial could be created akin to the time bending devices in Scadrial. Potential Spoilers for THE LOST METAL. 

Just a heads up, I've moved this topic to the Cosmere Discussion forum for you, since it includes significant Mistborn spoilers as well

[Epicdaf]

thanks so much for doing that @#1 Taln Fan!