So About Syl...

[JohnnyKaizen he/him]

Is she the Stormdaughter now? Because that's definitely the vibe I got after her father's death.

[Nitpicking]

5 hours ago, JohnnyKaizen said:

Is she the Stormdaughter now? Because that's definitely the vibe I got after her father's death.

In another thread I called her "Stormmother", by analogy to Stormfather, and because she once joked with Kaladin about how she'd be an excellent mother. She always had the title "Daughter" ("Ancient Daughter") so that doesn't feel like a progression to me.

Edited January 3, 2025 by Nitpicking
Thought of something.

[DSCrankshaw]

I'm going with Stormqueen, since Kaladin describes her that way:

"She glanced at him, and as she did, he saw a storm in her eyes. Not a metaphoric one, but actual lightning and swirling clouds, filling them. In a moment, she wore something very different. A regal gown, fit for … for a queen."

So yes, I think she inherited the Stormfather's role. I think that was something intentional on his part, and I think that there's a possibility that the Highstorm and Stormlight will return when she does. 

[Vambram he/him]

On 1/3/2025 at 3:08 PM, DSCrankshaw said:

I'm going with Stormqueen, since Kaladin describes her that way:

"She glanced at him, and as she did, he saw a storm in her eyes. Not a metaphoric one, but actual lightning and swirling clouds, filling them. In a moment, she wore something very different. A regal gown, fit for … for a queen."

So yes, I think she inherited the Stormfather's role. I think that was something intentional on his part, and I think that there's a possibility that the Highstorm and Stormlight will return when she does. 

I like the title of StormQueen the best for Syl, and I think that the rest of your post hits the nail right on the head. 

[JohnnyKaizen he/him]

On 1/3/2025 at 4:08 PM, DSCrankshaw said:

I'm going with Stormqueen, since Kaladin describes her that way:

"She glanced at him, and as she did, he saw a storm in her eyes. Not a metaphoric one, but actual lightning and swirling clouds, filling them. In a moment, she wore something very different. A regal gown, fit for … for a queen."

So yes, I think she inherited the Stormfather's role. I think that was something intentional on his part, and I think that there's a possibility that the Highstorm and Stormlight will return when she does. 

I am all in for Sylphrena the StormQueen

[Lord Ruler Sylphrena He/Him]

19 hours ago, JohnnyKaizen said:

I am all in for Sylphrena the StormQueen

Finally Brandon is giving Sylphrena the respect she deserves. Vote StormQueen Sylphrena as Queen of Roshar today! 

[scottos]

I like this theory as well. It makes me wonder if she will be able to bring the Highstorm when the Heralds return.

[JohnnyKaizen he/him]

On 1/12/2025 at 9:19 AM, scottos said:

I like this theory as well. It makes me wonder if she will be able to bring the Highstorm when the Heralds return.

That would certainly be something!

[Hexagonal He/Him]

There has been some discussion of who will accept oaths, and whether or not each individual spren will do it now. I'd love to see Syl accept early oaths of some spren when she returns, and then hand it over to the individual spren for later oaths.

[Basia]

On 1/3/2025 at 10:08 PM, DSCrankshaw said:

So yes, I think she inherited the Stormfather's role. I think that was something intentional on his part, and I think that there's a possibility that the Highstorm and Stormlight will return when she does. 

Absolutely, imagine the heralds come back and suddenly the highstorm returns as well bringing back stormlight and fueling all the radiants.

Serious double whammy for Retribution! 

[JohnnyKaizen he/him]

17 hours ago, Basia said:

Absolutely, imagine the heralds come back and suddenly the highstorm returns as well bringing back stormlight and fueling all the radiants.

Serious double whammy for Retribution! 

Considering the whole point of the Oathpact now is to shield all the spren from Retribution's shenanigans, this feels more and more likely, the more I think about it. 

[ararana]

I just finished the book last night and, I'll admit, I'd blitzkrieged the ending there so I probably missed some details. I'm completely lost on something with Syl...

Where is she? The Stormfather was killed and something happened to Syl - storm in her eyes and she got a wardrobe update coolio. Then Kaladin was made into a herald and, while all the herald's souls were sent to Braize, the herald's minds were sent to some peaceful vision. 

Is Syl there in the vision with Kaladin? Are they still bonded? If so, does Syl travel to Braize or the mind vision with Kaladin or does she stay on Roshar when he's gone?

This entire aspect of the ending went right over my head.  

[Nitpicking]

Syl is with the Heralds, because of her bond with Kaladin. Their souls are connected.

Szeth's spren says this (Chapter 95):
 

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“What is the cost to you?”

“What you do, I have to do with you,” the spren explained. “Nale’s spren was always trapped with him on Braize, and subject to the pains that the enemy can inflict.”

 

 

[Treamayne]

6 hours ago, ararana said:

I just finished the book last night and, I'll admit, I'd blitzkrieged the ending there so I probably missed some details. I'm completely lost on something with Syl...

Where is she?

 

1 hour ago, Nitpicking said:

Syl is with the Heralds, because of her bond with Kaladin.

Kalak even mentions seeing her in the Postlude:

Spoiler

Yes, it looked peaceful now, but this must be a new kind of torture. The friendly grass and soothing waves? It would be snatched away. Three of the figures in the group were wrong. That was proof. Who was that soldier in Kholin blue? That figure he couldn’t quite make out? That was Nale’s spren, he supposed. But that woman with white-blue hair, long and flowing? She didn’t belong here.

Kalak shuddered, panicking as the man in blue saw him and walked over.

 

[Marcidus]

On 1/3/2025 at 1:08 PM, DSCrankshaw said:

I'm going with Stormqueen, since Kaladin describes her that way:

"She glanced at him, and as she did, he saw a storm in her eyes. Not a metaphoric one, but actual lightning and swirling clouds, filling them. In a moment, she wore something very different. A regal gown, fit for … for a queen."

So yes, I think she inherited the Stormfather's role. I think that was something intentional on his part, and I think that there's a possibility that the Highstorm and Stormlight will return when she does. 

I wonder if this will change how Syl forms as a spear. Will it be anything like when Dalinar summoned the Stormfather as a blade?

[Hexagonal He/Him]

6 hours ago, Marcidus said:

I wonder if this will change how Syl forms as a spear. Will it be anything like when Dalinar summoned the Stormfather as a blade?

Considering that part of Dalinar and the Stormfather's bond was that Dalinar would not have shards, it would seem that Syl as a blade wouldn't change. She could be more invested now, which might change her ability to change in size, but I doubt that would be too noticeable.

[JohnnyKaizen he/him]

3 hours ago, Hexagonal said:

Considering that part of Dalinar and the Stormfather's bond was that Dalinar would not have shards, it would seem that Syl as a blade wouldn't change. She could be more invested now, which might change her ability to change in size, but I doubt that would be too noticeable.

You know, the Stormfather/Tanavast was a big ol liar...so it's possible Dalinar could/should have had shards all along, and he was just to prideful to help out. 

[Nitpicking]

So, if you (like me) think Syl will in some manner replace the Stormfather, will that make Kaladin a Bondsmith? I would think so. Would he still be a Windrunner? I kind of think he would.

So, a Windrunner/Bondsmith/Herald.

I suspect even Ba-Ado-Mishram would be a bit impressed.

[JohnnyKaizen he/him]

3 hours ago, Nitpicking said:

So, if you (like me) think Syl will in some manner replace the Stormfather, will that make Kaladin a Bondsmith? I would think so. Would he still be a Windrunner? I kind of think he would.

So, a Windrunner/Bondsmith/Herald.

I suspect even Ba-Ado-Mishram would be a bit impressed.

The more we talk about Syl and what the ramifications of what's happened most likely are, the more I need a SA 5.5 to come out yesterday.