Separate category page for Canticlite people

[lacrossedeamon]

Proposal to make a separate page for people on Canticle. The first thing to address is do we have a canonical demonym. I would assume it's Canticlite but I'm not sure we ever see it in the source material. Second is would we treat it like Rosharans who do not fall under Ashynites (which currently also doesn't have its own page) or would it be a subcategory on the Threnodite page.

[Chaos he/him]

For category names, I would probably go with Canticlite, and not have it be a subcategory of Threnodite. I am sure there are going to be all sorts of weirdness of groups going to different places that could get messy quickly. That seems like it's better to have the Threnodite connection listed in article text.

[lacrossedeamon]

Sounds good

[Treamayne]

On 4/20/2024 at 1:44 AM, lacrossedeamon said:

The first thing to address is do we have a canonical demonym. I would assume it's Canticlite but I'm not sure we ever see it in the source material.

I do not think there is a canon demonym yet, but the closest real match would be Senegal (rhyme) with is Senegalese for the demonym (Senegalesi - pl). So I would guess the closest demonym would be: Canticlese.

Edited April 29, 2024 by Treamayne
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[lacrossedeamon]

So the demonyms for planets (surprised sci-fi hasn't come up with a specific word for this) being used as category pages are Rosharan, Lumaran, Taldaini, Selish, Nalthian, Scadrian, Komashi, Threnodite, and Yolish. Have all of these been used in canon as actual demonyms? If so then it makes sense until we get its usage in the narrative. If not then we should vote on how to form the demonym for Canticle.

[Starwatcher]

I believe Lumaran, Taldaini, and Komashi are not canon, but I don't recall any discussions about them (Komashi is particularly weird, because usually that would be the category just for locations on the planet). To be honest, I think there's a larger underlying issue here about how our templates start breaking down when we don't have canon demonyms; one idea I've been considering is having them produce category names like "People of Canticle" instead, at least when the demonym is unknown.

[lacrossedeamon]

On 4/29/2024 at 4:12 PM, Starwatcher said:

I believe Lumaran, Taldaini, and Komashi are not canon, but I don't recall any discussions about them (Komashi is particularly weird, because usually that would be the category just for locations on the planet). To be honest, I think there's a larger underlying issue here about how our templates start breaking down when we don't have canon demonyms; one idea I've been considering is having them produce category names like "People of Canticle" instead, at least when the demonym is unknown.

Yeah we have similar issues on another wiki i work on regarding category pages for ethnicity vs nationality vs residency vs nation states that no longer exist. But if there is a overhaul in the wings then I'll hold off from doing anything.