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Whats the point of life?

I mean lets be honest:

We work every week through school just to waiting for the weekend. That goes by before we even realize

We work through weeks and months just waiting for summer break. That goes by before we even realize

We work for years of school just waiting for graduation. From those 12 years of school just to get a useless paper.

We go back to school after that for even more years, just working for one again another piece of paper.

Then we're supposed to get hired at a 9-5 desk job until we work ourselves into retirement, but by that time we are too old to enjoy life.

The point of this, everyone, is don't be so worried about what's going on in your life, whether it be school, or  work, or trying to find the love of your life. Just take a step back from everything and enjoy life where you are. 

I have a quote I'd like to share with you. It impacted me heavily and made me think about this. It says this:

"Life moves pretty fast. If you dont stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it." -Ferris Bueller, Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

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Is anything real?

Another question or thought really that I've had in the last few months is what is reality?

Reality is what we perceive, but what is that?

Humans' brains are so broken, someone with schizophrenia or that just got hit really hard can literally physically see and hear things that are not there. 

We have no proof of anything in our reality. For all I know personally, I am a forty-two year old man in an insane asylum, and everything I've learned and every relationship I've experienced here is fake and all in my head.

This is a bit of a stretch, but what if when we die we wake up in a praservative tank in 2600 and pull hyper-real VR goggles off of our eyes, and everything was fake.

Science used to say that two things made our universe: Time and Space.

But recently another thought has been brought into the light: what if it was Space, Time, and Conciousness?

You see, dear reader, not only would this support many religious beliefs about the creation of the universe from a god or gods, but science supports it too.

I have two experiments I would like to show you for proof and support of this:

The first is Schrodinger's Cat experiment. Many of you have heard of it, but in short it shows how until observed, an outcome can have both outcomes happening. This is called Quantom Superposition. It says that, until oberved, say a coin flip when it lands is both heads and tails, at once. 

The second experiment is called the Double Slit Experiment. It essentially showed that when particalls were launched at a wall, with two slits. I wont go into the details, you dear reader can research it on your own.

Basically it too says that particles physically change when oberved. 

Reality is not real, at least it cant be proven to be real. Everything we are doing could all be a huge lie. I have a quote I'd like to share with you.

"Perception is not reality, it is just our tiny experience of reality, which is something very limited and flawed. Only Truth is reality, and unless we are willing to question everything that we think we know, we will never see anything but illusions and lies." -Gavin Nascimento  

What is Conciousness?

In my last post, I talked about how conciousness (maybe) helped shape the universe, but what actually is it?

I mean lets be real. We have ZERO reason to be conscious beings.

Our brain is a 3 pound organ of mush, made up of nerves floating in fluid. 

Even scientists don't know what or why we have consciousness. 

We are born with this incredible ability to think, to comprehend, to imagine, but we have no idea why.

This isn't as good as a question, and I cant go on it too much just because I don't know, either.

So I ask you, think about it, or comment about what you think thinking and consciousness really is.

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On 4/17/2024 at 6:46 PM, WhyEverNot_8 said:

Dang… this is…wow. Just wow.

This has given me a lot to think about. Thank you for sharing this.

Of course. Im trying to post these as much as I can. I mostly just have trouble ... forming the thoughts into words? idk lol

Fate

This can be a contradictory topic.

If there is such a thing as fate, then why do we do what we do? We can just say "fate happend."

There are two arguments to this battle:

1. Fate exists, and everything is predestined. 

If fate does exist, then what's the point, we can argue that there's no point in trying, because no matter what everything will turn out fine. There's no incentive, no "competitive pay," per se. 

Whether or not you try you will end up in the same place as you were destined to go.

2. Fate is not real, and we all are failures. 

If fate isn't real, then that means that we have reason to live, but there's also no end guerentee. 

We can try all we want, but since our lives are totally in our hands, we cannot be totally 100% sure that we will make it.

Even with fate you can be sure you're going to make it to wherever you're trying to end up, you just have to hope that any work you put in paid off.

All of this "end," of course, being in this life or the next (if there is an afterlife).

Many Thinkers do not believe in fate, that we have control of our own destiny.

I think there is no fate. No guerentee on anything in life. Everything is a chance, and you need to take that leap of faith.

I have always loved people who try and be life-freeing motivators, because they know they have it right.

Life is meant to be free. You need to leave the grind if you want to enjoy it. There are no guarantees in life. Never. 

You need to work to be able to get anything or anywhere in life, because I think that only you can make sure that you will get anywhere in life.

"The only time sucess comes before work is in the dictionary." -Harvey Specter, Suits

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Who created God?

In the King James Bible it says that God was a being since the beginning of time, but what created time?

It is irrational for a something to come from nothing.

If matter cannot be created or destroyed, then where did matter come from? Our best guess is the Big Bang, but even then something cant come from nothing.

Also, scientists say that the universe is still constantly expanding, but if that's true then once again its an argument of where is that coming from?

Was the Big Bang, or the start of our universe the start of time? And if so then did God get created along with the start of time?

We have a few scenarios here, the first, which is that God did get created when the Big Bang happened, which is the start of time.

But even then, it's still the matter of who or what created God himself, because ONCE AGAIN, something CANNOT come from nothing.

The next scenario is that God existed from before the Big Bang. Once again, is the Big Bang the beginning of time or not? If it is not, then what was here before the Big Bang and thus creation of the universe? Was it just a void, but what is the void made of? Is God in that void? and if so is it truly a void?

If it was the start of time, then how did God exist before time. Nothing can exist outside of time, because then there would be no time to exist.

Which once again brings me to the question of when was God created and who or what created him.

A quote I found recently says this: "Nothing cannot exist, for to think of anything that does not exist is to think of something that exists." -unknown

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On 4/17/2024 at 11:13 PM, Shardwatcher01 said:

Fate

This can be a contradictory topic.

If there is such a thing as fate, then why do we do what we do? We can just say "fate happend."

There are two arguments to this battle:

1. Fate exists, and everything is predestined. 

If fate does exist, then what's the point, we can argue that there's no point in trying, because no matter what everything will turn out fine. There's no incentive, no "competitive pay," per se. 

Whether or not you try you will end up in the same place as you were destined to go.

2. Fate is not real, and we all are failures. 

If fate isn't real, then that means that we have reason to live, but there's also no end guerentee. 

We can try all we want, but since our lives are totally in our hands, we cannot be totally 100% sure that we will make it.

Even with fate you can be sure you're going to make it to wherever you're trying to end up, you just have to hope that any work you put in paid off.

All of this "end," of course, being in this life or the next (if there is an afterlife).

Many Thinkers do not believe in fate, that we have control of our own destiny.

I think there is no fate. No guerentee on anything in life. Everything is a chance, and you need to take that leap of faith.

I have always loved people who try and be life-freeing motivators, because they know they have it right.

Life is meant to be free. You need to leave the grind if you want to enjoy it. There are no guarantees in life. Never. 

You need to work to be able to get anything or anywhere in life, because I think that only you can make sure that you will get anywhere in life.

"The only time sucess comes before work is in the dictionary." -Harvey Specter, Suits

When you think about it, would there be a difference between fate existing without us knowing it and fate not existing? Also, what does “fate” really mean? Is it some outside force that makes us do things? Or is it just the inevitable things that we will do, because of our unique personality and the situations into which we’re placed.

Personally, I think that fate does exist, or rather that someone who could know us perfectly and know everything about the universe could know exactly what actions we will take. However, we don’t know what our “fate” is, and since we don’t, there’s no reason to fall into apathy. Because from our perspective, it is almost as if fate doesn’t exist.

On 4/19/2024 at 12:19 AM, Shardwatcher01 said:

Who created God?

In the King James Bible it says that God was a being since the beginning of time, but what created time?

It is irrational for a something to come from nothing.

If matter cannot be created or destroyed, then where did matter come from? Our best guess is the Big Bang, but even then something cant come from nothing.

Also, scientists say that the universe is still constantly expanding, but if that's true then once again its an argument of where is that coming from?

Was the Big Bang, or the start of our universe the start of time? And if so then did God get created along with the start of time?

We have a few scenarios here, the first, which is that God did get created when the Big Bang happened, which is the start of time.

But even then, it's still the matter of who or what created God himself, because ONCE AGAIN, something CANNOT come from nothing.

The next scenario is that God existed from before the Big Bang. Once again, is the Big Bang the beginning of time or not? If it is not, then what was here before the Big Bang and thus creation of the universe? Was it just a void, but what is the void made of? Is God in that void? and if so is it truly a void?

If it was the start of time, then how did God exist before time. Nothing can exist outside of time, because then there would be no time to exist.

Which once again brings me to the question of when was God created and who or what created him.

A quote I found recently says this: "Nothing cannot exist, for to think of anything that does not exist is to think of something that exists." -unknown

I like your thinking here, but I think there’s a few things you’re missing.

First off, I don’t think the Bible ever says that God was a being only since the beginning of time. Genesis 1:1 in KJV says:

”In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.”

As far as I know, there’s no implication that God began there, or that he had a beginning anywhere.

I think your other faulty assumption is that nothing can exist outside of time. Our current understanding of the beginning of the universe is that time did not exist before it. However, you say, and rightly so, that something cannot come from nothing, and that nothing cannot exist. So since we know that the universe (something) exists now, there can never have been nothing, because then our universe would not exist.

So the question we have to answer then is: what existed before time? Is it an unbroken chain of creation, something’s making something else’s stretching all the way back into eternity? Or is there a beginning to the chain, something that has existed eternally?

For me, I think the most logical answer to the question of God’s creation is that He was not created. That He exists eternally and outside of time and created time, the universe, and everything.

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On 4/20/2024 at 8:58 AM, NameIess said:

When you think about it, would there be a difference between fate existing without us knowing it and fate not existing? Also, what does “fate” really mean? Is it some outside force that makes us do things? Or is it just the inevitable things that we will do, because of our unique personality and the situations into which we’re placed.

Personally, I think that fate does exist, or rather that someone who could know us perfectly and know everything about the universe could know exactly what actions we will take. However, we don’t know what our “fate” is, and since we don’t, there’s no reason to fall into apathy. Because from our perspective, it is almost as if fate doesn’t exist.

I like your thinking here, but I think there’s a few things you’re missing.

First off, I don’t think the Bible ever says that God was a being only since the beginning of time. Genesis 1:1 in KJV says:

”In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.”

As far as I know, there’s no implication that God began there, or that he had a beginning anywhere.

I think your other faulty assumption is that nothing can exist outside of time. Our current understanding of the beginning of the universe is that time did not exist before it. However, you say, and rightly so, that something cannot come from nothing, and that nothing cannot exist. So since we know that the universe (something) exists now, there can never have been nothing, because then our universe would not exist.

So the question we have to answer then is: what existed before time? Is it an unbroken chain of creation, something’s making something else’s stretching all the way back into eternity? Or is there a beginning to the chain, something that has existed eternally?

For me, I think the most logical answer to the question of God’s creation is that He was not created. That He exists eternally and outside of time and created time, the universe, and everything.

Nice. All of this is also my opinion and just thoughts I've had, not a definitive answer for anything.

There's another thing. The Bible says that God is omnipotent and omnscient, meaning all powerful and all knowing.

But you see, you have no real power if you know everything, because if you know what's going to happen, it means that you cannot change anything.

Realizing that is when I came up with this theory:

There are timelines in timelines. Essentially, its this

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Gods timeline

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Humans' timeline

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So God can see everything in his own timeline, but he can only control things in our Human timeline. This would give a reason as to how he can exist in and out of space and time, because humans can only comprehend our own space and timeline, but God can exist in and out of it, but he has his own timeline to function in. This would also be the reason he can be both omnipotent and omnscient.

edit: I know its a bit scattered and a stretch but I was in a bit of a hurry sorry

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On 4/19/2024 at 12:19 AM, Shardwatcher01 said:

because ONCE AGAIN, something CANNOT come from nothing.

As far as our weak human brains can go, at least.

I think, at some point, we just have to accept that there are things we can't imagine pr wrap our brains around. That's where faith and trust come in. 

There's my unsensible 2 cents :) 

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2 hours ago, Anguished_One said:

As far as our weak human brains can go, at least.

I think, at some point, we just have to accept that there are things we can't imagine pr wrap our brains around. That's where faith and trust come in. 

There's my unsensible 2 cents :) 

I mean maybe but its also the law of conservation of mass. "Matter cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another." -Albert Einstein 

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