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So I was totally nerding out with a shower thought this morning about those sweet jumping stilts and my brain got onto the "how would this work with awakening" thought.  

Those stilts are heavy, ridged and bulky. But what if ropes were to replace them?  

A few of Vasher's commands that we see on screen involve lengthening his limbs and having the cloth / ropes act as extensions of natural movements. 

If you had ropes wrapped around your legs that you could some how command to give strength and lengthen out based on your effort input how could this work?  

Say you start sprinting and the ropes start to lengthen a bit more each step. Could you end up with a stride 2-3x or even more the length of your typical stride?  Would this increase your typical ground speed by an equal amount?  

Being ropes and awakened I don't think they need to remain perfectly ridged like stilts. They could likely act as a new joint entirely and lengthen the stride disproportionately from the new length of the legs. But if this combined with your natural sprinting form and not suffer the limitations of the real life jumping stilts I feel like it could probably create the fastest non ferring sprinter in the cosmere. 

To elevate the thought further, the ropes could be split into longer finger like lengths to allow for sprinting and gliding over nearly any surface. You could sprint through the trees and if you extended this same idea and thought to ropes on your arms as well you could be swinging and sprinting through thick cover or scaling mountain hikes at breakneck speed. 

That said I think there would be other limiting factors. How well would the awakener handle the inertia of high maneuverability at double or triple normal speeds?  

Perhaps awakening your clothing to tighten and brace you you could replicate the flight suit mechanics that fighter jet pilots use to keep the blood flowing right. 

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Go Go Gadget LEGS!

 

It should work in general.  There comes a point where the legs are launching you more than stepping where a single-leg stride stops working and you'll be better off doing a double foot bunny hop in a taller arc (kind of like astronauts in low gravity.  

 

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15 minutes ago, Quantus said:

Go Go Gadget LEGS!

 

It should work in general.  There comes a point where the legs are launching you more than stepping where a single-leg stride stops working and you'll be better off doing a double foot bunny hop in a taller arc (kind of like astronauts in low gravity.  

 

I was thinking about that a bit too. Picturing the balance that may or may not be needed to make this work. I think for long distance traveling it may even be more beneficial to adopt more of a 4 limbed run.  It would probably look really doofy but I think the mobility and flexibility of rope limbs could really allow you to move pretty well. 

If combining powers and someone were to acquire a form of F-iron do you think that being heavier with longer limbs would be more beneficial or being lighter?  I guess if the ropes are strong enough you could really get a stride going if you time being heavier with each kick and then storing quickly after to use the idea of preservation of momentum to your advantage. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said:

I was thinking about that a bit too. Picturing the balance that may or may not be needed to make this work. I think for long distance traveling it may even be more beneficial to adopt more of a 4 limbed run.  It would probably look really doofy but I think the mobility and flexibility of rope limbs could really allow you to move pretty well. 

Maybe, but there are some hip orientation limits for humans that can become issues.  Ive seen folks try to make quadruped running suits with long arms to even them out with the legs, but the best they can generally do still resemble a gorilla/great ape swinging stride rather than a true quadruped.  Centaur-style should be fine though. 

2 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said:

If combining powers and someone were to acquire a form of F-iron do you think that being heavier with longer limbs would be more beneficial or being lighter?  I guess if the ropes are strong enough you could really get a stride going if you time being heavier with each kick and then storing quickly after to use the idea of preservation of momentum to your advantage. 

 

Heavy will generally be better until the strength of the Awakening begins to falter and cant keep up with the demands (but you almost certainly wont be in stone statue ranges so you should be fine).  Too light and you cant maintain momentum through a jump or in a headwind, etc.  

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23 minutes ago, Quantus said:

Maybe, but there are some hip orientation limits for humans that can become issues.  Ive seen folks try to make quadruped running suits with long arms to even them out with the legs, but the best they can generally do still resemble a gorilla/great ape swinging stride rather than a true quadruped.  Centaur-style should be fine though. 

Heavy will generally be better until the strength of the Awakening begins to falter and cant keep up with the demands (but you almost certainly wont be in stone statue ranges so you should be fine).  Too light and you cant maintain momentum through a jump or in a headwind, etc.  

Great ape is a great way of picturing the running style! I really don't know how much faster you could get going... I just assume that if you allowed the legs to move the same speed and doubled the stride length you would end up with roughly doubling the speed. 

As far as iron usages I mostly just mean to get into a rhythm of being two or three times heavier than you typically are as the ropes load up and then stop tapping any weight at all as you start the launch.  Perhaps the air resistance would slow you some but I think the net result would be more acceleration than not. 

Perhaps the ability to move your limbs to give input to the awakened ropes would be more of a limiting factor if you move too quickly. 

But the freedom of being able to run over nearly all terrain as fast as the ropes can carry you with the added benefit of the awakened objects sparing your body while doing it seems like it could easily outshine and outclass the stride and speed of other arts. I don't know that it would be able to completely compete with something like plate in strength... but in terms of mobility and maneuverability it could be pretty dangerous. Add on the added benefit of doubling or tripling reach when fighting seems pretty great to me. 

Awakening is limited by the imagination. The more people start to think differently and adopt commands closer to what Vasher was using in the "act as my..." I think that it could make for some of the most bonkers looking tactics. 

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1 hour ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said:

So I was totally nerding out with a shower thought this morning about those sweet jumping stilts and my brain got onto the "how would this work with awakening" thought.  

Those stilts are heavy, ridged and bulky. But what if ropes were to replace them?  

A few of Vasher's commands that we see on screen involve lengthening his limbs and having the cloth / ropes act as extensions of natural movements. 

If you had ropes wrapped around your legs that you could some how command to give strength and lengthen out based on your effort input how could this work?  

Say you start sprinting and the ropes start to lengthen a bit more each step. Could you end up with a stride 2-3x or even more the length of your typical stride?  Would this increase your typical ground speed by an equal amount?  

Being ropes and awakened I don't think they need to remain perfectly ridged like stilts. They could likely act as a new joint entirely and lengthen the stride disproportionately from the new length of the legs. But if this combined with your natural sprinting form and not suffer the limitations of the real life jumping stilts I feel like it could probably create the fastest non ferring sprinter in the cosmere. 

To elevate the thought further, the ropes could be split into longer finger like lengths to allow for sprinting and gliding over nearly any surface. You could sprint through the trees and if you extended this same idea and thought to ropes on your arms as well you could be swinging and sprinting through thick cover or scaling mountain hikes at breakneck speed. 

That said I think there would be other limiting factors. How well would the awakener handle the inertia of high maneuverability at double or triple normal speeds?  

Perhaps awakening your clothing to tighten and brace you you could replicate the flight suit mechanics that fighter jet pilots use to keep the blood flowing right. 

Love the idea!

I'll have to illustrate it at some point.

As for its functionality, I think that this would be effective for extra speed and stamina. 

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