Edgedancer he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 And to answer the question, Paladin attempted (we will find out soon that Ghostknife doesn't kill so easily) to kill a 16-year old girl. Somehow I think you meant "doesn´t get killed" or something like that.
Seonid he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 The idiom - "He/she/it doesn't kill so easily" is used to mean "He/she/it is harder to kill than what you thought would be effective." But you have a point. It's a rather archaic phrasing, and I probably should have used the more standard grammar. Thanks for pointing out the potential confusion. I'll edit.
Kobold King he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Um...maybe he was using the sword to cut her a piece of cake? *hopeful smile* * headcanon accepted * 1
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 The idiom - "He/she/it doesn't kill so easily" is used to mean "He/she/it is harder to kill than what you thought would be effective." But you have a point. It's a rather archaic phrasing, and I probably should have used the more standard grammar. Thanks for pointing out the potential confusion. I'll edit. Huh, never knew that one. Talking about adding something, I don´t think you posted your Epic´s profiles over at "Epics of Oregon" mind adding them?
Seonid he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Oh, yeah! That would be a rather good thing to do. I'll add Ghostknife's too, because she's going to become a regular character before too long.
Kobold King he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Question: what would Paladin think of Lightwards? Lightwards is most certainly not a cult leader, but he is a tyrannous High Epic who suffers from a borderline messianic complex. How much effort would Paladin put into taking him down?
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Question: what would Paladin think of Lightwards? Lightwards is most certainly not a cult leader, but he is a tyrannous High Epic who suffers from a borderline messianic complex. How much effort would Paladin put into taking him down? A serial murderer that wants to turn the entire world population into his mindles slaves? I don´t see anything wrong with that. I bet Paladin would just kill a few people for him and then share tea with Nighthound. 3
Kobold King he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 A serial murderer that wants to turn the entire world population into his mindles slaves? I don´t see anything wrong with that. I bet Paladin would just kill a few people for him and then share tea with Nighthound. Lightwards isn't creepy or cultish at all. He just has a healthy dose of self-confidence. 2
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 17, 2014 Author Posted October 17, 2014 Lightwards isn't creepy or cultish at all. He just has a healthy dose of self-confidence. And he really takes initiative in getting what he wants. 1
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Lightwards isn't creepy or cultish at all. He just has a healthy dose of self-confidence. Funnily enough, I don´t think Lighwards brand of megalomania comes with self-confidence. 1
Kobold King he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Funnily enough, I don´t think Lighwards brand of megalomania comes with self-confidence. He's a funnily insecure kind of megalomaniac, isn't he? 2
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 He's a funnily insecure kind of megalomaniac, isn't he? Yes, it´s quite entertaining to read about. Talking about entertaining, who wants Lucentia to get shot into her head? 2
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 17, 2014 Author Posted October 17, 2014 Yes, it´s quite entertaining to read about. Talking about entertaining, who wants Lucentia to get shot into her head? Would saying exactly how much I want to see this make me a terrible person? 1
Kobold King he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Yes, it´s quite entertaining to read about. Talking about entertaining, who wants Lucentia to get shot into her head? Would saying exactly how much I want to see this make me a terrible person? If you're a terrible person I must be a complete monster, since I helped plan it. 2
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Would saying exactly how much I want to see this make me a terrible person? No, just a sane one and probably soon a disapointed one. If you're a terrible person I must be a complete monster, since I helped plan it. Wait we are not complete monsters? 2
Seonid he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Question: what would Paladin think of Lightwards? Lightwards is most certainly not a cult leader, but he is a tyrannous High Epic who suffers from a borderline messianic complex. How much effort would Paladin put into taking him down? Were Paladin to appear in Portland, he would definitely see either Lightwards or Altermind as the primary target for personal reasons, as they both seem dangerously close to attempting to enforce worship or a similarly equivalent ideal (Thoughttown would definitely trigger Paladin's cult-phobia). During his more lucid moments, however, tactical considerations would outweigh those personal preferences. As far as how much effort he would be willing to invest into taking him down, well, once Team Paladin commits to "cleansing" a city, they are in it for the long haul. This would be Team Paladin's approach if they were to commit to "cleansing" Portland, and had decided on the Empire of Light as their first target. Firstly, he would note an impending war with Corpsemaker, and would wait until the dust had settled out of that conflict. During the Corpsemaker war, He would likely task Ranger with infiltrating the battlefield and eliminating as many minor Epics as he could from all sides during the chaos, to result in a seriously weakened victor, regardless. If he was able to get intel on Quota, he would be a primary target (although not until Upgraded epics had managed to wreak havoc on the assaulting forces.) At this point, tactics might differ greatly based on Paladin's mental state. If this, is Dark!Paladin calling the shots, Ranger would be tasked with targeting minor Epics belonging to whichever side was currently on top, hoping to prolong the conflict and end up with fewer powerful Epics to face later. If it were NotSoDark!Paladin, Ranger would be told to eliminate the Epics that were causing the most collateral damage, in order to protect the civilians caught in the crossfire as best they could. (There really is a core of goodness in there that is just having a really hard time getting through. The next post will be from Paladin's perspective, and we'll get hints of the war between his conscience and Calamity's taint). After that, the next point would depend on how weakened the Empire was. If it seems weak enough, then he might move immediately on to the final stage (see below). If not, then he would start by trying to increase tensions between the Empire and Thoughttown, Kelsier-style. You know, knives(or crystal katanas/crossbows/sniper rifles/arrows/insert appropriate weapons here) in the mist, bodies left in convenient locations to arouse suspicion. During this phase, Ranger would be actively gathering as much information as possible about the various Epics in both the Empire and Thoughttown. The MEE would probably be left alone for a a while. They wouldn't register on Paladin's threat radar, although he might attempt an infiltration of them to move them towards a (second) attack on the MoNA. Anything to whittle down the Empire's forces. Also during this phase, he and Guardian would be focusing a great deal of their attentions on isolating and eliminating key players from the Empire. (They would likely not actively target Traveler, because of his (perceived) ability to teleport away, but they would take attacks of opportunity against him if the opportunity arose. Nighthound would be a key target, though, as would Aldo and Funtimes. This might last until they realized that Funtimes is just as elusive as Traveler.) This would take the form of stalking and attacking them while they are on their own, where the combined force of Paladin and Guardian could probably overcome them. Nighthound would be a tricky obstacle, but enough exploding sword swings to the face and even he'll go down. And the precog might just give them enough of an edge to get them in. It would be dicey though. Guardian would be the weak spot there. Final note on this phase: if they manage to get the intel that there is a growing rift between Lightwards and Funtimes, and even more that she is protecting several of the vanillas, they might try to enlarge that rift, too. NotSoDark!Paladin would not go so far as to order an assassination hit on Sam or Remington, but Dark!Paladin certainly would, and would attempt to blame it on Lightwards. The body was heavy, but Ranger didn't care. He was used to these jobs by now. Go here, kill this person, drop the body off somewhere else. Leave a short message. All in a nights work. Except for this body was to be delivered directly to the Emperor of Light. That was dangerous ground, to be sure. But if anyone could walk it, it was him. Not that he was being arrogant, of course. But when you were the best, it was simply a fact, and no beating around the bush could change it. Lightwards, Emperor of Light, waited with a guard of Warriors. Several large, predatory dinosaurs stood guard as well. Too many to consider making this an assassination attempt. Pity. Ranger walked into the light, dropping the body on the ground in front of him. "What is this?" Lightwards was visibly perturbed by the action. "Who are you?" "You've been wanting him/her as a Warrior, didn't you, Emperor? Well now he/she's all yours." He walked back into the alley, letting the shadows wreathe themselves behind him. Lightwards watched as the strange Epic faded away into the shadows, disappearing completely from view. UNLESS - Paladin knew about Remington's history killing Koschei. He would then likely assume that Remington was infiltrating the Empire in order to bring it down. He would do his best to get into contact and offer assistance in toppling Lightwards and all of his supporters. If Remington accepted, this would get them on the Nathan/Funtimes team, and would fundamentally alter the details of the strategy. The Funtimes cadre would then become on their side during the final phase, with all of the attendant ramifications. Finally, after several of the more powerful Epics had been eliminated, would come the final stage: the assault on the Museum of Natural Awesomeness. I'm afraid that the vanillas inside would likely go down as collateral damage, being seen as sympathizers or even supporters of the Empire. (Unless the Remington plan was adopted. See above) The most tricky part would be eliminating Lightwards himself. If they came from The Dalles, and had interacted with Backtrack enough to know any of his story, at some point there would have been a trip back to grab him and go back to the spot where Mobius had killed Lightwards, to try and track down his weakness. If not, then we might see a whack-a-mole game with Lightwards. Or sedative arrows and taking him prisoner after destroying all of his Warriors. That could work too. Or both. This is, of course, assuming all goes to plan. It never does, as their assassination attempt in Madras makes clear. Wait we are not complete monsters? I'm pretty sure that I count as a monster after my last post. [EDIT:] for spelling and getting the spoiler in the right place. Edited October 17, 2014 by Seonid 5
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 17, 2014 Author Posted October 17, 2014 If you're a terrible person I must be a complete monster, since I helped plan it. Secret plans, secret plans everywhere! Not that I'm one to point fingers. I haven't even counted how many planning PMs I have. 1
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 The body was heavy, but Ranger didn't care. He was used to these jobs by now. Go here, kill this person, drop the body off somewhere else. Leave a short message. All in a nights work. Except for this body was to be delivered directly to the Emperor of Light. That was dangerous ground, to be sure. But if anyone could walk it, it was him. Not that he was being arrogant, of course. But when you were the best, it was simply a fact, and no beating around the bush could change it. Lightwards, Emperor of Light, waited with a guard of Warriors. Several large, predatory dinosaurs stood guard as well. Too many to consider making this an assassination attempt. Pity. Ranger walked into the light, dropping the body on the ground in front of him. "What is this?" Lightwards was visibly perturbed by the action. "Who are you?" "You've been wanting him/her as a Warrior, didn't you, Emperor? Well now he/she's all yours." He walked back into the alley, letting the shadows wreathe themselves behind him. Lightwards watched as the strange Epic faded away into the shadows, disappearing completely from view. Probably wouldn´t work. Lightwards doesn´t have the balls to order an assassination like that and everyone in the empire knows it. Given, how none interested he was in a reward at the very least Nighthound would connect the dots. Not that I could properly predict how Funtimes would react in such a situation but it´s a fairly safe bet that she would lash out at the person that just admided to killing vanilla x first. Appart from that, lots of work went into that. 1
Seonid he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Probably wouldn´t work. Lightwards doesn´t have the balls to order an assassination like that and everyone in the empire knows it. Given, how none interested he was in a reward at the very least Nighthound would connect the dots. Not that I could properly predict how Funtimes would react in such a situation but it´s a fairly safe bet that she would lash out at the person that just admided to killing vanilla x first. Appart from that, lots of work went into that. Thanks. I guess that the operative idea behind the assassination would be to present Lightwards with an already dead body (while Funtimes was away). Could he resist raising it as a Warrior? Someone who had repeatedly defied him and was now lying there coincidentally dead? And Funtimes returning to find her friend raised as a Warrior...well, the idea is that she would exact revenge on Lightwards for having her friend as a Warrior. After she found out that someone else had killed the friend, I agree. She'd definitely hunt them down. But the point of the idea was for her to find her friend already made a Warrior. It still might not work, but I hope that that is a clearer explanation of what they would be trying to do.
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 17, 2014 Author Posted October 17, 2014 Probably wouldn´t work. Lightwards doesn´t have the balls to order an assassination like that and everyone in the empire knows it. Given, how none interested he was in a reward at the very least Nighthound would connect the dots. Not that I could properly predict how Funtimes would react in such a situation but it´s a fairly safe bet that she would lash out at the person that just admided to killing vanilla x first. Appart from that, lots of work went into that. Yeah, if Sam or Remington were killed, Funtimes would lash out at whoever took credit. If Lightwards denied it, she might believe him, since he's had a hundred plus chances to do it and hasn't. She might torture him anyway until he divulged what he knew, and then go after whoever he implicated until she found the perpetrator. That did take a lot of work. Bravo. 1
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Thanks. I guess that the operative idea behind the assassination would be to present Lightwards with an already dead body (while Funtimes was away). Could he resist raising it as a Warrior? Someone who had repeatedly defied him and was now lying there coincidentally dead? And Funtimes returning to find her friend raised as a Warrior...well, the idea is that she would exact revenge on Lightwards for having her friend as a Warrior. After she found out that someone else had killed the friend, I agree. She'd definitely hunt them down. But the point of the idea was for her to find her friend already made a Warrior. It still might not work, but I hope that that is a clearer explanation of what they would be trying to do. I now have the image in my head of Nighthound rekilling the zomby and telling him what a stupid idea that is, while Lightwards throws a temper tantrum about not getting his "toy." I´m always "helpful" at pointing out flaws in assassination attempts (or just about everything). Edited October 17, 2014 by Edgedancer 2
Kobold King he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 The body was heavy, but Ranger didn't care. He was used to these jobs by now. Go here, kill this person, drop the body off somewhere else. Leave a short message. All in a nights work. Except for this body was to be delivered directly to the Emperor of Light. That was dangerous ground, to be sure. But if anyone could walk it, it was him. Not that he was being arrogant, of course. But when you were the best, it was simply a fact, and no beating around the bush could change it. Lightwards, Emperor of Light, waited with a guard of Warriors. Several large, predatory dinosaurs stood guard as well. Too many to consider making this an assassination attempt. Pity. Ranger walked into the light, dropping the body on the ground in front of him. "What is this?" Lightwards was visibly perturbed by the action. "Who are you?" "You've been wanting him/her as a Warrior, didn't you, Emperor? Well now he/she's all yours." He walked back into the alley, letting the shadows wreathe themselves behind him. Lightwards watched as the strange Epic faded away into the shadows, disappearing completely from view. Wow. Upvote for a very well thought out plan and scenario. Lightwards would definitely reanimate any member of Vanilla Sabotage given half a chance. It would appease him on a base level to see Sam staring into space with the vacant Warrior look, or having Remington meekly run errands for him. Lightwards, first and foremost, is a man who wants to control others. Of course, he'd realize the amount of trouble he'd be in if Funtimes found out. So the first thing he'd do is find Funtimes, explain to her how new Epics had invaded the Empire and murdered her friend, and then offer her the newly resurrected Warrior as a peace offering. He'd then try his utmost to channel her rage into tracking down the invaders and annihilating them. 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 17, 2014 Author Posted October 17, 2014 Argh! Sorry about that, Edge, it was another accidental downvote.
Edgedancer he/him Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Argh! Sorry about that, Edge, it was another accidental downvote. It´s... not... a... *starts crying* Just kidding it happens. 3
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted October 17, 2014 Author Posted October 17, 2014 It´s... not... a... *starts crying* Just kidding it happens. To me, quite a bit. I think Quota knows I plan to kill him and has taken over my phone. 1
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