Dellexe Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 So, the title says it all. I'm trying to figure out what the most OP combination of abilities is! - Let's start with the Lord Ruler, since he's already very OP. - So, strongest Allomancer to ever exist, and Feruchemist. Pretty OP already. - Let's add SPIKES! Spike of human strength to augment him further, with another stability spike to balance it out. - Now that the Lord Ruler has reached the OP limit on Scadrial, let's give him some Breath. I think 50,000 or so should suffice! - Woohoo! He can now Awaken everything around him to fight for him! But wait, there's more, let's give him an AWAKENED SWORD TOO. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. - Well, now we have a super-strong Feruchemist who's also the strongest Allomancer to ever exist, has enough Breath to reach the 10th Heightening, and wields an Awakened Sword! How much more OP can we make this guy? - Let's have him take a vacation on Sel! Thanks to some kind interference from the local Splinters, the Lord Ruler now has the enhanced physical capabilities of an Elantrian, and can draw Aons! And let's have him spend a few months at the Dakhor monastery, too. Yisssss. This is going perfectly. Oh, and let's train him in ChayShan fighting too! YIPEE! - So we have the previous, only now with super-strong bones, super enhanced strength, shininess, glowiness, the ability to shoot waves of disintegrating energy (Aon Daa skeet shooting, anyone?), teleport, cast illusions, and can enhance his combat even further with ChayShan forms! - But we can do more... My friends, it's time, for ROSHAR. - How much can we do here? How about giving him a suit of Shardplate? That's pretty nice, let's enhance his strength and invulnerability even more. And what's that? Let's have him bond all ten Honorblades? Why, that sounds like a fantastic idea! And while we're at it, let's just have him bond a Spren too, so he can hold all the Stormlight he needs. - So now... super-strong naturally, Feruchemist, super-strong Allomancer, immortality, ability to draw Aons, ability to teleport, ability to Awaken nearby objects, ability to fly, all the other Surges, ability to draw Aons (which, when combined with time bubbles, makes him able to draw them effectively instantly [have any of you actually looked at how complicated some are? JEEZ.]), and on top of that, he has an Awakened Sword with the command "Be Awesome." - I don't think we can get more OP, do you? - I make strange threads at one in the morning... I should sleep.... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaellok Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 I see your version of the Lord Ruler, and raise you Hoid. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vibronicgoose Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 As much as we all love Hoid Kaellok, I feel that this version of the lord ruler would just tip the scale the other way. We do have WoB that Hoid's head would regrow if it was lopped off though, so perhaps the battle between the two would end up as some sort of eternal fight to the never-death. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mail-mi Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Give 'im a few soulstamps as well, and a few pet skeletons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaellok Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 As much as we all love Hoid Kaellok, I feel that this version of the lord ruler would just tip the scale the other way. We do have WoB that Hoid's head would regrow if it was lopped off though, so perhaps the battle between the two would end up as some sort of eternal fight to the never-death. I guess it depends on your definition of "powerful." Sure, Hoid can't kill anyone--but appearing to be functionally immortal while gathering all of the various magic systems of the Cosmere has got to count for something, right? Right?! Then again, now I see the duel of Hoid vs. The Super Lord Ruler as this: Hoid is tied up like a punching bag, and TSLR is just pounding on him nonstop. Hoid, being Hoid, continues to deliver witty one-liners and general mockery until TSLR gets frustrated and kills himself. Or, I don't know, leaves to conquer the galaxy after getting bored seems a pretty legitimate response, too. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodfalcon Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 As powerful as that would make someone, I think there'd be a point of overkill where you have too many skills to make use of. If you bonded all of the Honorblades, that already seems like a lot to keep track of. I suppose the real benefit is being able to switch off between energy sources. Swallow a ton of metal, grab some infused gemstones and just swap when you start running low. It sounds more like an endurance champion than anything. So maybe too OP to a point of wastefulness. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 all that investiture would cause him to combust. end of the super lord ruler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newan Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 If he is going to Roshar, he might as well go to Future Roshar and ride in an awesome Fabrial Steampunk Zeppelin. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellexe Posted September 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 As much as we all love Hoid Kaellok, I feel that this version of the lord ruler would just tip the scale the other way. We do have WoB that Hoid's head would regrow if it was lopped off though, so perhaps the battle between the two would end up as some sort of eternal fight to the never-death. - I think that this ability comes from Hoid's status as both Feruchemist and Allomancer, and that he can regrow it due to Feruchemical gold super healing. - (I didn't find the annotation saying TLR never got his head chopped off, can someone else find it?) - I think an Awakened Sword could probably tip the scales in either direction's favor. It's kinda hard to heal when you're vaporized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cem Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Forget all this magic stuff. What the Lord Ruler truly needs is a copy of the Evil Overlord List. So he can protect himself against teenage girls. Instead of bragging about like a megalomaniac. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgedancer Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) You´re missing one simple fact. The most OP thing in the Cosmere is Brandon Sanderson! On a more serious note, I think you caught all the major forms of Investure, if we want to really pile up the unneccesarry powers we could get him one of those birds from Sixth of the Dusk. Edited September 8, 2014 by Edgedancer 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellexe Posted September 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 You´re missing one simple fact. The most OP thing in the Cosmere is Brandon Sanderson! On a more serious note, I think you caught all the major forms of Investure, if we want to really pile up the unneccesarry powers we could get him one of those birds from Sixth of the Dusk. - True. I kinda forgot about those. Let's just attach a giant bird cage to his back and give him every Aviar possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newan Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 And then use tiny hemalurgic spikes to give the birds powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shardcellist Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) Nice try, but ODIUM REIGNS. I think a Shard trumps just about everything. Now, if someone gave Rayse some Hemalurgic spikes... Edit: Sorry, I don't know if the exclusive clause in the title was added after this post or if I just missed it. I realize that this wasn't the point of the thread. My mistake. It does bring up an interesting question, though. How much Investiture does it take to beat a Shard of Adonalsium? I've been planning on asking this in a new thread, but here is a good place to ask it again. Edited September 9, 2014 by Shardcellist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobold King Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 - True. I kinda forgot about those. Let's just attach a giant bird cage to his back and give him every Aviar possible. Even with all the other powers, I don't think I could take the Human Aviary seriously. Forget all this magic stuff. What the Lord Ruler truly needs is a copy of the Evil Overlord List. So he can protect himself against teenage girls. Instead of bragging about like a megalomaniac. "MUAHAHA! I have overpowered a teenage girl in a fight to the death! Even with my thousands of years of experience versus her few months, and despite the fact that I've killed enough people by now to make this a regular occurrence, I still feel the need to pause and tell you just how small and insignificant you are. Because I'm just that kind of person." (I actually love Mistborn and this is very good natured teasing.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulcastJam Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 As powerful as that would make someone, I think there'd be a point of overkill where you have too many skills to make use of. If you bonded all of the Honorblades, that already seems like a lot to keep track of. I suppose the real benefit is being able to switch off between energy sources. Swallow a ton of metal, grab some infused gemstones and just swap when you start running low. It sounds more like an endurance champion than anything. So maybe too OP to a point of wastefulness. All you need to do is burn feruchemical zinc for mental speed so you can figure out what will be most useful in the situation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newan Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 If you think about it, TLR really didn't stand a chance. Vin had Ruin and Preservation's help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellexe Posted September 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 If you think about it, TLR really didn't stand a chance. Vin had Ruin and Preservation's help. - Yeah. This is really the only reason TLR lost. He had Ruin whispering in his ear, making him feel invincible and to take his time killing her, and Vin had the power of Preservation to draw on. If TLR had ignored Ruin that fight would have had a very different ending... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killersquirrel59 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 You're going about it the wrong way. There's a power you missed and it's rather simple to get. You need to start on Nalthis and begin this process with a Returned. Then go through the rest of the steps mentioned, granting the Allomancy and Feruchemy by means of either Lerasium (if possible) or Hemalurgic Spikes. You also missed getting him trained in Forgery while on Sel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodfalcon Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 All you need to do is burn feruchemical zinc for mental speed so you can figure out what will be most useful in the situation. Woah great point. But I guess what I'm thinking is that once you have several of those powers, you can really get through any situation. There probably isn't much outside your boundaries if you have every surge alone. Or Allomancy + Feruchemy. If it were me, I'd probably just have a couple preferred solutions to pretty much everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curiosity Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Nice try, but I think a Shard trumps just about everything. Now, if someone gave Rayse some Hemalurgic spikes... Edit: Sorry, I don't know if the exclusive clause in the title was added after this post or if I just missed it. I realize that this wasn't the point of the thread. My mistake. It does bring up an interesting question, though. How much Investiture does it take to beat a Shard of Adonalsium? I've been planning on asking this in a new thread, but here is a good place to ask it again. So, Shards are made of Investiture... We don't know how much, but it's a LOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyrindor Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Now just give him some special glasses and name him Lord Smedry....Oh wait.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Gleeman Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 He also needs some copperminds, one for each power, so he doesn't get overloaded with powers and forget some of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shardcellist Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 So, Shards are made of Investiture... We don't know how much, but it's a LOT. Sorry for the misunderstanding here. I know that Shards are made up of Investiture - or, rather, Investiture is the Power of Creation that made up Adonalsium and now is Shattered into 16 Shards that now power the Cosmere magic systems and Splinter each other (I'm looking at you, Rayse) and generally cause havoc (Rayse and Ati) and ... Holy Stormfather! Do I ramble this much in real life, or is it just when the Cosmere comes up? (Hid insane ramblings in spoiler tag - PLEEZE don't look!!! ) Anyway, my point wasn't asking how much Investiture Shards are made of, but rather how much an ordinary human would need to combat one. (After all, Vin and Co. had to try and outwit/beat Ruin before her Ascension.) Could someone with all ten Honorblades do it? What about the Lord Ruler? I'm guessing no for the Lord Ruler, or he would have destroyed Ati while he was imprisoned. Could a Lerasium Mistborn burn brass and duralumin to Soothe Rayse of anger? Could Lift do it if she started Compounding Bendalloy? And... I'm rambling again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) Compounding Bendalloy would just use Preservation's Investiture and limit you to however much Investiture you can take from Preservation (which is not much). Shards are made of lots of Investiture, to the point where they can cover an entire planet with their substance. I doubt an ordinary human could ever combat a Shard - by the point where they could, they'd have ascended to being a Shard themselves. Honorblades are probably less than 0.01% of Honor's Investiture or some other very small number. Edited September 10, 2014 by Moogle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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