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Just now, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

I don't think it's about the death. It's about coming to terms with death and falling in love despite of it, making good with the time you have. 

Mmmmm... this does make good room for foil characters...

I do feel like eras where you have to actively remember what it was like can make RP feel like a chore 

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23 minutes ago, Ookla the Yellow Sock said:

I personally like WW1 for several reasons:

1. It has the simplicity of guns and gas so that we don’t have nukes.

2. It allows action to happen.

3. People can drop out on the front lines or join in a new recruit any time. 
4. It’s a commonly know event in history and it’s easy to research if needed.

5. You can be drafted or enlisted.

6. It gives a reason for people to fall in love, impending doom makes people think faster about marking off their bucket lists.

7. We can have a wide variety of people from different countries and such, forbidden romance???

8. Historical romance isn’t often found in rps.

9. It doesn’t need a magic system to be exciting.

10. Trauma!

Those were just off the top of my head.

I think people could still show up and leave in an open environment that's got a magical apocalypse or whatever going on. And access to weaponry could still be varied and tuned.

I think a historical fiction setting primarily isn't common in RPs because it's sort of awkward and requires prior knowledge (I know you can research it, but that's sort of a hassle and there will primarily be a bunch of weeds to get into over it). Plus, a military setting would be a lot more complex and dynamic, which isn't necessarily a good thing if we want this to stay coherent at all.

And we can do trauma and action anywhere. Not to mention that the day-to-day realities of war could get self-similar. And there wouldn't much more bucket listing to do.

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Just now, Ookla the Resolute said:

I do feel like eras where you have to actively remember what it was like can make RP feel like a chore 

You'd have to do that for literally any other era or setting.

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1 minute ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

You'd have to do that for literally any other era or setting.

No but like

1 minute ago, Ookla the Abstract said:

I think people could still show up and leave in an open environment that's got a magical apocalypse or whatever going on. And access to weaponry could still be varied and tuned.

I think a historical fiction setting primarily isn't common in RPs because it's sort of awkward and requires prior knowledge (I know you can research it, but that's sort of a hassle and there will primarily be a bunch of weeds to get into over it). Plus, a military setting would be a lot more complex and dynamic, which isn't necessarily a good thing if we want this to stay coherent at all.

And we can do trauma and action anywhere. Not to mention that the day-to-day realities of war could get self-similar. And there wouldn't much more bucket listing to do.

^this

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2 minutes ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

You'd have to do that for literally any other era or setting.

Not really a modern one. We all already have an idea of what a modern setting is like. We don't have that for historical stuff, and our views and understanding of the setting are more likely to conflict in a setting that none of us were actually present in.

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4 minutes ago, Ookla the Resolute said:

I do feel like eras where you have to actively remember what it was like can make RP feel like a chore 

......RP is a hobby... Its a skill... Skills don't just come easy-

3 minutes ago, Ookla the Abstract said:

I think people could still show up and leave in an open environment that's got a magical apocalypse or whatever going on. And access to weaponry could still be varied and tuned.

I think a historical fiction setting primarily isn't common in RPs because it's sort of awkward and requires prior knowledge (I know you can research it, but that's sort of a hassle and there will primarily be a bunch of weeds to get into over it). Plus, a military setting would be a lot more complex and dynamic, which isn't necessarily a good thing if we want this to stay coherent at all.

And we can do trauma and action anywhere. Not to mention that the day-to-day realities of war could get self-similar. And there wouldn't much more bucket listing to do.

I do see your point... Hmm I will have to think about this.

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10 minutes ago, Ookla the Abstract said:

I think people could still show up and leave in an open environment that's got a magical apocalypse or whatever going on. And access to weaponry could still be varied and tuned.

I think a historical fiction setting primarily isn't common in RPs because it's sort of awkward and requires prior knowledge (I know you can research it, but that's sort of a hassle and there will primarily be a bunch of weeds to get into over it). Plus, a military setting would be a lot more complex and dynamic, which isn't necessarily a good thing if we want this to stay coherent at all.

And we can do trauma and action anywhere. Not to mention that the day-to-day realities of war could get self-similar. And there wouldn't much more bucket listing to do.

8 minutes ago, Ookla the Resolute said:

No but like

^this

7 minutes ago, Ookla the Abstract said:

Not really a modern one. We all already have an idea of what a modern setting is like. We don't have that for historical stuff, and our views and understanding of the setting are more likely to conflict in a setting that none of us were actually present in.

It's just as much of a hassle for anything. Any sort of rp requires effort imo. 

Hmm... as I don't think it'll really work if we did it as the actual time period...

how about it's an alternate earth where it's similar, but there are a load of different things? Such as, social structures might not be the same, cultures, the people in the area, how people interact, how they talk, where locations are, etc.

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1 minute ago, Ookla the Abstract said:

Not really a modern one. We all already have an idea of what a modern setting is like. We don't have that for historical stuff, and our views and understanding of the setting are more likely to conflict in a setting that none of us were actually present in.

If we did modern the best option is probably more Apocalypse style

Just now, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

It's just as much of a hassle for anything. Any sort of rp requires effort imo. 

Hmm... as I don't think it'll really work if we did it as the actual time period...

What if we did the frugal wizard solution? how about it's an alternate earth where it's similar, but there are a load of different things? Such as, social structures might not be the same, cultures, the people in the area, how people interact, how they talk, where locations are, etc.

..............*sigh*

Thaidybear

Sweet Thaidybear.....

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Just now, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

It's just as much of a hassle for anything. Any sort of rp requires effort imo. 

Hmm... as I don't think it'll really work if we did it as the actual time period...

What if we did the frugal wizard solution? how about it's an alternate earth where it's similar, but there are a load of different things? Such as, social structures might not be the same, cultures, the people in the area, how people interact, how they talk, where locations are, etc.

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Hey bro can you not some of us want to read frugal without spoilers 

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Just saying 

 

 

1 minute ago, Ookla the Yellow Sock said:

If we did modern the best option is probably more Apocalypse style

Nuclear?

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1 minute ago, Ookla the Resolute said:

 

Nuclear?

I'd say eliminate the nuclear weapons and stick to basic guns, gases, etc. Stuff they would of used in WW1 or WW2 But in apocalypse form. Just who would control the environment or would we just generally collaborate on that?

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1 minute ago, Ookla the Yellow Sock said:

......RP is a hobby... Its a skill... Skills don't just come easy-

I do see your point... Hmm I will have to think about this.

It is supposed to be enjoyable, though. The part of RP that's a skill that you develop doesn't have much at all to do with the setting, because that varies. Having to reference external historical information for this sort of thing isn't for everyone.

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1 minute ago, Ookla the Yellow Sock said:

If we did modern the best option is probably more Apocalypse style

..............*sigh*

Thaidybear

Sweet Thaidybear.....

...?

Just now, Ookla the Resolute said:

 

I don't think it's really a spoiler...

It's in the first few pages, if I recall. Actually, ima go grab my copy and check, just in case I'm wrong. I put it there, thinking it was in the first few pages. Sorry if it isn't. I'll remove the tagline and just have the point.

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Just now, Ookla the Abstract said:

It is supposed to be enjoyable, though. The part of RP that's a skill that you develop doesn't have much at all to do with the setting, because that varies. Having to reference external historical information for this sort of thing isn't for everyone.

Understandable, I am now looking towards the modern apocalypse with WW1 or 2 era weapons.

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Just now, Ookla the Yellow Sock said:

I'd say eliminate the nuclear weapons and stick to basic guns, gases, etc. Stuff they would of used in WW1 or WW2 But in apocalypse form. Just who would control the environment or would we just generally collaborate on that?

Why does there need to be war again?

1 minute ago, Ookla the Abstract said:

It is supposed to be enjoyable, though. The part of RP that's a skill that you develop doesn't have much at all to do with the setting, because that varies. Having to reference external historical information for this sort of thing isn't for everyone.

Yes. That's why the "anything goes" kinds of RPs work really well; people can do what they enjoy the most there.

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3 minutes ago, Ookla the Yellow Sock said:

I'd say eliminate the nuclear weapons and stick to basic guns, gases, etc. Stuff they would of used in WW1 or WW2 But in apocalypse form. Just who would control the environment or would we just generally collaborate on that?

Well, I don't think that stuff is easily made apocalyptic. Nukes could just be a looming thing and not really have active involvement. Or it could be any other sort of apocalypse.

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I really want a regency era, I think that it would be really cool, but to help further player enjoyment for the reasons mentioned we could bend reality a little and make it not have to be 100% historically accurate, similar to what @Thaidakar the Ghostblood was saying.

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Okay so the majority vote is regency so far. How would we work that out? I agree it is quite a cool idea, but like... How?

Apocalypse makes sense. Zombies. People running around with guns, sticking in groups and romance blossoming. But regency...

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7 minutes ago, Ookla the Abstract said:

It is supposed to be enjoyable, though. The part of RP that's a skill that you develop doesn't have much at all to do with the setting, because that varies. Having to reference external historical information for this sort of thing isn't for everyone.

I just don't get the pushback. It can easily just be "Make up stuff along time lines." A quick google search and seeing what shows up for like 2 minutes isn't a lot of research or effort.

5 minutes ago, Ookla the Resolute said:

Why does there need to be war again?

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering too. I think it might even be better without a war.

4 minutes ago, Ookla thePresentParticiple said:

I really want a regency era, I think that it would be really cool, but to help further player enjoyment for the reasons mentioned we could bend reality a little and make it not have to be 100% historically accurate, similar to what @Thaidakar the Ghostblood was saying.

Yes! It doesn't have to be accurate at all. It can just be similar to accurate. Similar does not mean the same. Star Wars is similar to Lord of the Rings, after all. It can go really well with some ideas that have been thrown around.

 

Edit: storms, with the amount of debate I'm having on here, I'm going to have to join. There goes all other rps... This actually seems really, really, really entertaining and I might just do a lot here. Might help me get back into being excited about writing...

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Just now, Ookla the Yellow Sock said:

Okay so the majority vote is regency so far. How would we work that out? I agree it is quite a cool idea, but like... How?

Apocalypse makes sense. Zombies. People running around with guns, sticking in groups and romance blossoming. But regency...

Fanciness. Balls. Aristocracy. Slums. Hatred.

Love.

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2 minutes ago, Ookla the Yellow Sock said:

Okay so the majority vote is regency so far. How would we work that out? I agree it is quite a cool idea, but like... How?

Apocalypse makes sense. Zombies. People running around with guns, sticking in groups and romance blossoming. But regency...

Why? If I may ask, what is the point of having an impending doom?

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We could do regency era in a world that suffered an apocalypse, so once had guns and stuff, but society reverted because of the apocalypse. So there's like skyscraper ruins off in the distance, but we're in a chateau or something having a ball and ignoring the fact that our distant ancestors all almost died. And making jewelry out of broken electronics or something.

Spoiler

This is a joke suggestion.

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...But it would be cool.

 

1 minute ago, Ookla the Resolute said:

Why? If I may ask, what is the point of having an impending doom?

If I remember, it was to add a layer of pressure to the situation, making the relationships more interesting, and also giving there a reason to rush relationships that would otherwise take too long to be RP-able. Basically the world is going to end, and the characters want to find love before the end.

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Just now, Ookla thePresentParticiple said:

Fanciness. Balls. Aristocracy. Slums. Hatred.

Love.

Oooooh you have my attention. Please elaborate you two.

1 minute ago, Ookla the Resolute said:

Why? If I may ask, what is the point of having an impending doom?

The purpose was to give people reasons to.quickly fall in love but I like where thus regency thing is going possibly without it.

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Just now, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

I just don't get the pushback. It can easily just be "Make up stuff along time lines." A quick google search and seeing what shows up for like 2 minutes isn't a lot of research or effort.

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering too. I think it might even be better without a war.

Yes! It doesn't have to be accurate at all. It can just be similar to accurate. Similar does not mean the same. Star Wars is similar to Lord of the Rings, after all. It can go really well with some ideas that have been thrown around.

Just making some stuff up wouldn't be perfect, since I imagine there'd be some confusion and pushback from people who already do know the setting. And it would probably take a little more time and effort to figure out the setting than that, not to mention trying to keep it consistent.

1 minute ago, Ookla the Resolute said:

Why? If I may ask, what is the point of having an impending doom?

I think that kind of is the point. The original idea was some sort of doom leading to people forming some sort of bucket list to fill out before the end, which would include wanting to fall in love or whatever.

Regency does have the same issues with being a historical setting... And yeah, that seems harder.

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Just now, Ookla the Resolute said:

Why? If I may ask, what is the point of having an impending doom?

The point of impending doom is to force them to have to think about stuff they haven't before, it's to make them prioritize things. One of those being, of course, love. Also, it gives a really nice bittersweet flavor to the arcs. I might do something like this in one of my books. It really gives the characters the question "What am I going to do before I die?" "What do I need to get done?" The different views on how to use that time could bring in a load of different conflicts too.

Just now, Ookla the Yellow Sock said:

Oooooh you have my attention. Please elaborate you two.

Mmmmm... Abbies, mansions, suitors, fancy clothes, fancy drinks, trying to ignore things but being forced to acknowledge them, cool class dynamics, a witty style of dialogue that would be out of place literally anywhere else reminiscent of Pride and Prejudice. 

Just now, Ookla the Abstract said:

Just making some stuff up wouldn't be perfect, since I imagine there'd be some confusion and pushback from people who already do know the setting. And it would probably take a little more time and effort to figure out the setting than that, not to mention trying to keep it consistent.

Hmmm... then we could have a post at the top with the basics. If anyone gets confused, there could be a group of people who know the lore and how certain things work. Or, if not, they can ask each other, come up with an answer, and share it on the thread. Maybe create a FAQ for it in the first post so it's not just read this series of giant paragraphs to know things. People can just read what they need to know as it comes.

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1 minute ago, Ookla the Yellow Sock said:

Oooooh you have my attention. Please elaborate you two.

The purpose was to give people reasons to.quickly fall in love but I like where thus regency thing is going possibly without it.

You realize that it would probably be easier without life threatening doom? Because I can only envision very samey characters in an apocalypse setting trying to fall in love.

1 minute ago, Ookla the Abstract said:

Just making some stuff up wouldn't be perfect, since I imagine there'd be some confusion and pushback from people who already do know the setting. And it would probably take a little more time and effort to figure out the setting than that, not to mention trying to keep it consistent.

I think that kind of is the point. The original idea was some sort of doom leading to people forming some sort of bucket list to fill out before the end, which would include wanting to fall in love or whatever.

Regency does have the same issues with being a historical setting... And yeah, that seems harder.

If all these people have the same bucketlist, they're gonna end up very similar

1 minute ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

The point of impending doom is to force them to have to think about stuff they haven't before, it's to make them prioritize things. One of those being, of course, love. Also, it gives a really nice bittersweet flavor to the arcs. I might do something like this in one of my books. It really gives the characters the question "What am I going to do before I die?" "What do I need to get done?" The different views on how to use that time could bring in a load of different conflicts too.

Mmmmm... Abbies, mansions, suitors, fancy clothes, fancy drinks, trying to ignore things but being forced to acknowledge them, cool class dynamics, a witty style of dialogue that would be out of place literally anywhere else reminiscent of Pride and Prejudice. 

Mmm

I'm not sure this was what I was envisioning

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