Trusk'our he/him Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 All Koloss will continue to grow bigger as they age, but what happens if a human with dwarfism syndrome was turned into a Koloss? Would they still continue to grow, just with a shorter starting point? Also, what if in Scadrial's future modern medicine is able to use a procedure similar to how gigantism is cured (by cutting out the pituitary gland in the brain) on Koloss to try to stop Koloss's excessive growth? Would it work? Would the Koloss live as long as a human that way? 1
Tamriel Wolfsbaine Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Trusk'our said: All Koloss will continue to grow bigger as they age, but what happens if a human with dwarfism syndrome was turned into a Koloss? Would they still continue to grow, just with a shorter starting point? Also, what if in Scadrial's future modern medicine is able to use a procedure similar to how gigantism is cured (by cutting out the pituitary gland in the brain) on Koloss to try to stop Koloss's excessive growth? Would it work? Would the Koloss live as long as a human that way? I imagine a Koloss midget would start a bit smaller. That said I don't know if dwarfism is a thing on Scadrial. It seems that most shardworlds have enough bonus investiture to avoid the sorts of birth defects and abnormalities we see on our earth. I even feel hard pressed to try and create a blind from birth character idea because I just don't know that it is possible with the innate investiture everyone has. Maybe on some of the more outer worlds. Nalthis spoilers and speculation ahead: Spoiler I might be tempted to think a bunch of drabs moved off of Nalthis and then reproducing and their children then reproducing might start to bring innate investiture of that population into more Earthly bounds. As for stopping Koloss growth, I must admit, I have obsessed over what would happen to a kolossblooded and / or a spiked full koloss (as they both seem to grow and grow) if they recieved the 5th heightening. Would the ageless process pause their growth? Would it keep them growing infinitely? Would their torn flesh mend itself? Or would this be a scenario where agelessness doesn't infact grant immortality because they would eventually die from just their size?
Trusk'our he/him Posted October 7, 2023 Author Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: I imagine a Koloss midget would start a bit smaller. That said I don't know if dwarfism is a thing on Scadrial. It seems that most shardworlds have enough bonus investiture to avoid the sorts of birth defects and abnormalities we see on our earth. I even feel hard pressed to try and create a blind from birth character idea because I just don't know that it is possible with the innate investiture everyone has. Maybe on some of the more outer worlds. SA spoilers: Spoiler I don't think that even the extra Investiture found on the best of Shardworlds stops all birth defects- remember that Dabbid has an unspecified disorder from birth, so it is therefore possible to have that sort of thing happen on those Shardworlds. I don't think it would be unbelievable at all that a character blind from birth could be a thing on Scadrial where the Innate Investiture is generally lower than that of Roshar. 3 hours ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: I imagine a Koloss midget would start a bit smaller. That said I don't know if dwarfism is a thing on Scadrial. It seems that most shardworlds have enough bonus investiture to avoid the sorts of birth defects and abnormalities we see on our earth. I even feel hard pressed to try and create a blind from birth character idea because I just don't know that it is possible with the innate investiture everyone has. Maybe on some of the more outer worlds. Nalthis spoilers and speculation ahead: Hide contents I might be tempted to think a bunch of drabs moved off of Nalthis and then reproducing and their children then reproducing might start to bring innate investiture of that population into more Earthly bounds. Spoiler Probably, though I think Nalthian Breaths may be more tied to birthplace (Nalthis) than sDNA- this quote says that normal Breaths are more physical than spiritual in nature; Quote https://wob.coppermind.net/events/80/#e5282 Questioner With spikes, would you be able to actually transfer Breaths, when they get to the other planets? Brandon Sanderson So spikes rip off pieces of the soul and so Breaths are not going to be part of the soul. You could maybe get a divine Breath but I haven't really decided on regular Breaths, they're kind of stuck there in the Physical Realm which is not a thing that spikes are dealing with. Divine Breath, potentially, because that's something that's actually melding onto your soul. But, you know, when you're using the Breaths they reach through to the Spiritual Realm so, maybe if you got it while the Breaths were kinetic, right, while you're using them, then you might be able to rip them off. I'm not a hundred percent certain on that one. Bystander There's still things to decide upon. Brandon Sanderson Yeah there's still things, like I have to kind of see. My instinct says no right now. But, you know, how they interact is not something that I have-- Yeah. I think that this may mean that Breaths are granted more by location of birth than one's actual sDNA, but that is a guess and should be taken with a grain of salt. I think that it's also possible that the original Breath of a Nalthian is tied to their Spiritual Aspect, but after it's transferred it becomes more physical in nature, though this too could be false. 3 hours ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: Hide contents As for stopping Koloss growth, I must admit, I have obsessed over what would happen to a kolossblooded and / or a spiked full koloss (as they both seem to grow and grow) if they recieved the 5th heightening. Would the ageless process pause their growth? Would it keep them growing infinitely? Would their torn flesh mend itself? Or would this be a scenario where agelessness doesn't infact grant immortality because they would eventually die from just their size? Minor Warbreaker spoilers; Spoiler Yeah, it's sort of weird to think about, but my current thought is that the 5th Heightening would stop growth at a certain point if the growth is directly tied to age, which I this has some precedent. Hmmm, I think that we just turned this into a Cosmere Forum topic. . . Edited October 7, 2023 by Trusk'our
Tamriel Wolfsbaine Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, Trusk'our said: SA spoilers: Reveal hidden contents I don't think that even the extra Investiture found on the best of Shardworlds stops all birth defects- remember that Dabbid has an unspecified disorder from birth, so it is therefore possible to have that sort of thing happen on those Shardworlds. I don't think it would be unbelievable at all that a character blind from birth could be a thing on Scadrial where the Innate Investiture is generally lower than that of Roshar. Hide contents Probably, though I think Nalthian Breaths may be more tied to birthplace (Nalthis) than sDNA- this quote says that normal Breaths are more physical than spiritual in nature; I think that this may mean that Breaths are granted more by location of birth than one's actual sDNA, but that is a guess and should be taken with a grain of salt. I think that it's also possible that the original Breath of a Nalthian is tied to their Spiritual Aspect, but after it's transferred it becomes more physical in nature, though this too could be false. Minor Warbreaker spoilers; Hide contents Yeah, it's sort of weird to think about, but my current thought is that the 5th Heightening would stop growth at a certain point if the growth is directly tied to age, which I this has some precedent. Hmmm, I think that we just turned this into a Cosmere Forum topic. . . I am so guilty of this. I dont want to miss mistborn topics but I cant help wanting to place thoughts connecting awakening to everything else. It is just too portable to confine to Nalthis alone haha. That is probably what I like most about that system and the ones we see on Scadrial. They can go and be used anywhere! Why not use them together in theory crafting? The hard part is remembering which forum I am in when writing responses.
Trusk'our he/him Posted October 7, 2023 Author Posted October 7, 2023 38 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: I am so guilty of this. I dont want to miss mistborn topics but I cant help wanting to place thoughts connecting awakening to everything else. It is just too portable to confine to Nalthis alone haha. Is Awakening your favorite magic system then?
Tamriel Wolfsbaine Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, Trusk'our said: Is Awakening your favorite magic system then? I would like to say yes. Its between that and Feruchemy. To be honest. Kandra with a heightening of some level is my ideal cosmere character. If I could toss in F pewter and/or iron it solidifies it as all my heart could ask for in the cosmere haha. (Big thanks to the ideas posed in that 101 tricks thread. The spoiled ones near the end illustrate exactly where my mind is going.) 1
alder24 Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Trusk'our said: Hide contents Probably, though I think Nalthian Breaths may be more tied to birthplace (Nalthis) than sDNA- this quote says that normal Breaths are more physical than spiritual in nature; Quote https://wob.coppermind.net/events/80/#e5282 Questioner With spikes, would you be able to actually transfer Breaths, when they get to the other planets? Brandon Sanderson So spikes rip off pieces of the soul and so Breaths are not going to be part of the soul. You could maybe get a divine Breath but I haven't really decided on regular Breaths, they're kind of stuck there in the Physical Realm which is not a thing that spikes are dealing with. Divine Breath, potentially, because that's something that's actually melding onto your soul. But, you know, when you're using the Breaths they reach through to the Spiritual Realm so, maybe if you got it while the Breaths were kinetic, right, while you're using them, then you might be able to rip them off. I'm not a hundred percent certain on that one. Bystander There's still things to decide upon. Brandon Sanderson Yeah there's still things, like I have to kind of see. My instinct says no right now. But, you know, how they interact is not something that I have-- Yeah. I think that this may mean that Breaths are granted more by location of birth than one's actual sDNA, but that is a guess and should be taken with a grain of salt. I think that it's also possible that the original Breath of a Nalthian is tied to their Spiritual Aspect, but after it's transferred it becomes more physical in nature, though this too could be false. I'll join with more Warbreaker spoilers: Spoiler It's both, you have to be native to Nalthis to get Breaths, but also having Nalthian parents with Breaths will give you a Breath even if they were not born on Nalthis: Spoiler JoyBlu In order to have a Breath, do you have to be native to Nalthis? Brandon Sanderson Not to be given Breaths, but people who are not native to Nalthis are not born with that Investiture. JoyBlu So, you have to be born on that planet? Brandon Sanderson There are exceptions. Most of the time. JoyBlu If both your parents were Nalthians, and they moved off planet, and they had a child that was born on a different planet— Brandon Sanderson It is possible for that child to have a Breath, but it would not continue too long. But yes, that child would probably have a Breath, depending... Joyblu If both of his parents had Breaths. Brandon Sanderson Mmmhmm. Orem Signing (March 16, 2019) Spoiler Shardlet (paraphrased) If a Scadrian allomancer had a baby with a Nalthian (and the baby was born on Nalthis), could the baby have an original Breath and also be a Natural allomancer? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) It could happen, the baby would have a bit of Preservation and a bit of Endowment. SpoCon 2013 (July 10, 2013) 1
Trusk'our he/him Posted October 7, 2023 Author Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: I would like to say yes. Its between that and Feruchemy. Nice. Mine is Hemalurgy (no duh Trusk'our), probably because it A, can be used by anyone and therefore feels like something that would actually be usable in the Cosmere- I always feel somewhat uncomfortable with the concept of being "lucky" enough to have magic in a fantasy setting, as it feels statistically improbable to be realistic to hope for such a thing, similar to how most main characters of stories "happen" to be prodigies and can beat literally anybody else when it comes to skill. In any case, Hemalurgy completely removes that improbability and means that your work and research can lead to more power and capacity. B, I'd say that Hemalurgy is just really cool in that there is always some new secret to tease out, some weakness or flaw that must be solved, or a new unforseen aspect that needs to be studied. And C, I'd say that it's because it allows for crazy amounts of power if understood and used correctly, but it isn't worldbreaking in it's power level- there are limits that must be taken into account and therefore it actually feels like an option as well. 11 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: To be honest. Kandra with a heightening of some level is my ideal cosmere character. If I could toss in F pewter and/or iron it solidifies it as all my heart could ask for in the cosmere haha. (Big thanks to the ideas posed in that 101 tricks thread. The spoiled ones near the end illustrate exactly where my mind is going.) Glad you found the thread, it's pretty fun to hear your ideas If I may ask, why would you want F-iron or pewter on an Awakener Kandra specifically? Quote I'll join with more Warbreaker spoilers: Spoiler It's both, you have to be native to Nalthis to get Breaths, but also having Nalthian parents with Breaths will give you a Breath even if they were not born on Nalthis: Hide contents JoyBlu In order to have a Breath, do you have to be native to Nalthis? Brandon Sanderson Not to be given Breaths, but people who are not native to Nalthis are not born with that Investiture. JoyBlu So, you have to be born on that planet? Brandon Sanderson There are exceptions. Most of the time. JoyBlu If both your parents were Nalthians, and they moved off planet, and they had a child that was born on a different planet— Brandon Sanderson It is possible for that child to have a Breath, but it would not continue too long. But yes, that child would probably have a Breath, depending... Joyblu If both of his parents had Breaths. Brandon Sanderson Mmmhmm. Orem Signing (March 16, 2019) Hide contents Shardlet (paraphrased) If a Scadrian allomancer had a baby with a Nalthian (and the baby was born on Nalthis), could the baby have an original Breath and also be a Natural allomancer? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) It could happen, the baby would have a bit of Preservation and a bit of Endowment. SpoCon 2013 (July 10, 2013) Ah, good to know. Edited October 7, 2023 by Trusk'our
Tamriel Wolfsbaine Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, alder24 said: I'll join with more Warbreaker spoilers: Reveal hidden contents It's both, you have to be native to Nalthis to get Breaths, but also having Nalthian parents with Breaths will give you a Breath even if they were not born on Nalthis: Hide contents JoyBlu In order to have a Breath, do you have to be native to Nalthis? Brandon Sanderson Not to be given Breaths, but people who are not native to Nalthis are not born with that Investiture. JoyBlu So, you have to be born on that planet? Brandon Sanderson There are exceptions. Most of the time. JoyBlu If both your parents were Nalthians, and they moved off planet, and they had a child that was born on a different planet— Brandon Sanderson It is possible for that child to have a Breath, but it would not continue too long. But yes, that child would probably have a Breath, depending... Joyblu If both of his parents had Breaths. Brandon Sanderson Mmmhmm. Orem Signing (March 16, 2019) Hide contents Shardlet (paraphrased) If a Scadrian allomancer had a baby with a Nalthian (and the baby was born on Nalthis), could the baby have an original Breath and also be a Natural allomancer? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) It could happen, the baby would have a bit of Preservation and a bit of Endowment. SpoCon 2013 (July 10, 2013) This makes me wonder... Spoiler So if 2 drabs go to another world and have a child. Is that child going to have a child with breath? At which point would that bloodline switch from Nalthian innate investiture to the current planet (say Scadrial given the forum)? Say you moved enough drabs off of Nalthis to Scadrial and they "kept it in the family" continually passing their breaths away to someone else before reproducing. Would you have any generations born with no innate investiture at all or would there just be a line in the sand where you no longer get a breath but instead are born with the innate investiture granted to everyone native to Scadrial? Likewise would the cross breeding of a Nalthian to a person naturally born a feruchemist or mistborn potentially lead to a metalborn with a breath? Would that bonus breath allow the metalborn to ascend to a higher power level with that skill than those born without breath? 10 minutes ago, Trusk'our said: Nice. Mine is Hemalurgy (no duh Trusk'our), probably because it A, can be used by anyone and therefore feels like something that would actually be usable in the Cosmere- I always feel somewhat uncomfortable with the concept of being "lucky" enough to have magic in a fantasy setting, as it feels statistically improbable to be realistic to hope for such a thing, similar to how most main characters of stories "happen" to be prodigies and can beat literally anybody else when it comes to skill. In any case, Hemalurgy completely removes that improbability and means that your work and research can lead to more power and capacity. B, I'd say that Hemalurgy is just really cool in that there is always some new secret to tease out, some weakness or flaw that must be solved, or a new unforseen aspect that needs to be studied. And C, I'd say that it's because it allows for crazy amounts of power if understood and used correctly, but it isn't worldbreaking in it's power level- there are limits that must be taken into account and therefore it actually feels like an option as well. Glad you found the thread, it's pretty fun to hear your ideas If I may ask, why would you want F-iron or pewter on an Awakener Kandra specifically? Ah, good to know. Those are the same reasons I love awakening. Accessibility. Kandra being my race of choice points to a love of hemalurgy as well. And with Hemalurgy nothing is really out of the question. F pewter because of one of the tricks theorized. Being able to store muscle mass and draw from it again is epic. More so on a Kandra who could either make themselves denser and not give up mobility or... Warbreaker spoilers: Spoiler Using the rope skeleton trick become as large as they need to be to use that muscle mass. The closest thing to the Hulk you can get in the cosmere is someone who is normal sized and then taps a large amount of pewter to gain a ton of muscle mass. We know that F pewter is mass restricted but a moldable and extendable skeleton (lots of rope stored in the soft bits of yourself) would allow you to fully use all of that mass. The amount of rope available for granting stability to that mass is your limit. You could tap it and triple your muscle mass and then shift it to be a 12 foot tall Koloss if you wanted. You could tap it and then just shape yourself with denser muscles to fill it past that. And then return to normal when storing. You could even start at a comfortable 7 ft tall proportionately acceptable size and store the muscle mass down to an unsuspecting 5'9". You could have large metalminds inside of yourself holding all of this mass from constant storage and feel no ill effects... if you store too much you could discard and get a new metalmind or even tap a lot and just disconnect from the excess muscle mass leaving a pile of meat somewhere... Its grusome and gross but oh so freaking cool to think about. F iron goes in the same way and is largely dependent on the rope skeleton thing too. I dont think storing weight would ever allow you to truley store the weight of the rope but you could spread your mass in such a way that you could form bat like wings and only have the weight of the rope matter. Then flight is possible. So, between a love for the Hulk and wild shape from druids of Azeroth and D&D I just think that specific combination of powers would be the closest way to put those guys into the cosmere.
Trusk'our he/him Posted October 7, 2023 Author Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: This makes me wonder... Hide contents So if 2 drabs go to another world and have a child. Is that child going to have a child with breath? At which point would that bloodline switch from Nalthian innate investiture to the current planet (say Scadrial given the forum)? Say you moved enough drabs off of Nalthis to Scadrial and they "kept it in the family" continually passing their breaths away to someone else before reproducing. Would you have any generations born with no innate investiture at all or would there just be a line in the sand where you no longer get a breath but instead are born with the innate investiture granted to everyone native to Scadrial? Likewise would the cross breeding of a Nalthian to a person naturally born a feruchemist or mistborn potentially lead to a metalborn with a breath? Would that bonus breath allow the metalborn to ascend to a higher power level with that skill than those born without breath? Spoiler I think that it would depend on whether the Breaths getting removed would alter the sDNA of the Drabs in question, which I don't think it would- Drabs would probably have children with Breaths. If you were to take enough Nalthians to another planet and they were to start a civilization there, you'd probably get a lot of people with Breaths being born for a time but it would either stop eventually or Endowment's presence would become strong enough on that planet to cause a mixing of Investiture and start up some new effects, similar to how BS said there could be weird ramifications for a child with Scadrien and Nalthian Investiture. As for Breath increasing the power level of Allomancers or Feruchemists, maybe, but there would have to be a tweaking to the system from where it stands currently, as those things seem to be separate in their nature. However, it would be interesting to see if a Soulbearer Ferring could use their Breath to store and tap to increase their Innate Investiure. 8 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: Those are the same reasons I love awakening. Accessibility. Kandra being my race of choice points to a love of hemalurgy as well. And with Hemalurgy nothing is really out of the question. Nice. Hemalurgy and Awakening are really the most open magic systems in the Cosmere, allowing for more to be done with them than most others. I'd have to say that Awakening is my favorite non-Metallic Art magic system, as there are so many parallels between it and Hemalurgy, particularly with Hemalurgy being able to use Commands now. 10 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: F pewter because of one of the tricks theorized. Being able to store muscle mass and draw from it again is epic. More so on a Kandra who could either make themselves denser and not give up mobility or... Warbreaker spoilers: Glad to see that at least one of my ideas inspired someone else 11 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: Warbreaker spoilers: Hide contents Using the rope skeleton trick become as large as they need to be to use that muscle mass. The closest thing to the Hulk you can get in the cosmere is someone who is normal sized and then taps a large amount of pewter to gain a ton of muscle mass. We know that F pewter is mass restricted but a moldable and extendable skeleton (lots of rope stored in the soft bits of yourself) would allow you to fully use all of that mass. The amount of rope available for granting stability to that mass is your limit. You could tap it and triple your muscle mass and then shift it to be a 12 foot tall Koloss if you wanted. You could tap it and then just shape yourself with denser muscles to fill it past that. And then return to normal when storing. You could even start at a comfortable 7 ft tall proportionately acceptable size and store the muscle mass down to an unsuspecting 5'9". You could have large metalminds inside of yourself holding all of this mass from constant storage and feel no ill effects... if you store too much you could discard and get a new metalmind or even tap a lot and just disconnect from the excess muscle mass leaving a pile of meat somewhere... Its grusome and gross but oh so freaking cool to think about. F iron goes in the same way and is largely dependent on the rope skeleton thing too. I dont think storing weight would ever allow you to truley store the weight of the rope but you could spread your mass in such a way that you could form bat like wings and only have the weight of the rope matter. Then flight is possible. So, between a love for the Hulk and wild shape from druids of Azeroth and D&D I just think that specific combination of powers would be the closest way to put those guys into the cosmere. Spoiler Nice strategy using the powers in conjunction with each other. I think that could work, and it would be awesome to see in action. I actually had a somewhat similar idea on an old vs. thread, where a Kandra that used the correct build would be the most powerful non-Shardic combatant in the Cosmere (I'll have to rummage it up somehow, though that may take a while). I even drew a picture of it because the thought was just too cool (Kandra of Ruin)
Tamriel Wolfsbaine Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, Trusk'our said: Hide contents I think that it would depend on whether the Breaths getting removed would alter the sDNA of the Drabs in question, which I don't think it would- Drabs would probably have children with Breaths. If you were to take enough Nalthians to another planet and they were to start a civilization there, you'd probably get a lot of people with Breaths being born for a time but it would either stop eventually or Endowment's presence would become strong enough on that planet to cause a mixing of Investiture and start up some new effects, similar to how BS said there could be weird ramifications for a child with Scadrien and Nalthian Investiture. As for Breath increasing the power level of Allomancers or Feruchemists, maybe, but there would have to be a tweaking to the system from where it stands currently, as those things seem to be separate in their nature. However, it would be interesting to see if a Soulbearer Ferring could use their Breath to store and tap to increase their Innate Investiure. Nice. Hemalurgy and Awakening are really the most open magic systems in the Cosmere, allowing for more to be done with them than most others. I'd have to say that Awakening is my favorite non-Metallic Art magic system, as there are so many parallels between it and Hemalurgy, particularly with Hemalurgy being able to use Commands now. Glad to see that at least one of my ideas inspired someone else Hide contents Nice strategy using the powers in conjunction with each other. I think that could work, and it would be awesome to see in action. I actually had a somewhat similar idea on an old vs. thread, where a Kandra that used the correct build would be the most powerful non-Shardic combatant in the Cosmere (I'll have to rummage it up somehow, though that may take a while). I even drew a picture of it because the thought was just too cool (Kandra of Ruin) Spoiler Digging that Kandra design. Terrifying. I just posted in the 101 tricks the potential of a kandra replicating on a human sized scale the production of poisons / venoms and even spider silk production. I imagine a Kandra could grow a heart small enough to grant a child the transplant just as I imagine a Kandra could grow a heart to supply adequate bloodflow to a full grown koloss. Why would they not be able to breakdown and examine the very organic organs and processes by which they work to create venom and silk glands? They can grow all of the organs we need for our hormones to work. They can most likely replicate and grow our hormones. They should be able to pull the same shenanigans on a larger scale for venom and silk. Infact I wouldn't even think that nutritional support to give the building blocks would be necessary because Kandra are carnivores the same way snakes and spiders are. 1
Trusk'our he/him Posted October 7, 2023 Author Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: Hide contents Digging that Kandra design. Terrifying. Thanks! 2 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: Hide contents I just posted in the 101 tricks the potential of a kandra replicating on a human sized scale the production of poisons / venoms and even spider silk production. I imagine a Kandra could grow a heart small enough to grant a child the transplant just as I imagine a Kandra could grow a heart to supply adequate bloodflow to a full grown koloss. Why would they not be able to breakdown and examine the very organic organs and processes by which they work to create venom and silk glands? They can grow all of the organs we need for our hormones to work. They can most likely replicate and grow our hormones. They should be able to pull the same shenanigans on a larger scale for venom and silk. Infact I wouldn't even think that nutritional support to give the building blocks would be necessary because Kandra are carnivores the same way snakes and spiders are. Agreed; Kandra's Shapeshifting can be used to fabricate all kinds of things people could benefit from. Making specialized toxins from only meat should be possible as well, given the fact they can make pretty much any biological structure that isn't bone, enamel, or hair.
alder24 Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: This makes me wonder... Hide contents So if 2 drabs go to another world and have a child. Is that child going to have a child with breath? At which point would that bloodline switch from Nalthian innate investiture to the current planet (say Scadrial given the forum)? Warbreaker: Spoiler The WoB literally answers this question. Parents have to have Breaths. 2 hours ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: Spoiler Likewise would the cross breeding of a Nalthian to a person naturally born a feruchemist or mistborn potentially lead to a metalborn with a breath? Would that bonus breath allow the metalborn to ascend to a higher power level with that skill than those born without breath? Warbreaker: Spoiler Again, the second WoB fully answers this question. There are a lot of things that a single Breath gives that can give you a bit of advantage in Feruchemy, like health, senses etc.
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