Beodrakis he/him Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 we know that hemalurgic spikes can be stored in bodily materials (meat and blood) to prevent hemalurgic decay, so in theory, since pee is found in the bladder, could you store a hemalurgic spike in a massive bucket of pee to stop it from decaying? Same goes for gastric acid.
AonEne he/him Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 I think it's the "the spike thinks it's stabbed in a body" thing that stops the decay - there's a WOB on that somewhere - and that meat and blood would trigger that in a way I don't think pee would.
alder24 Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Beodrakis said: we know that hemalurgic spikes can be stored in bodily materials (meat and blood) to prevent hemalurgic decay, so in theory, since pee is found in the bladder, could you store a hemalurgic spike in a massive bucket of pee to stop it from decaying? Same goes for gastric acid. The WoB mentioned by AonEne: Spoiler LadyLameness The Inquisitors keep spikes in jars to stop the Hemalurgic decay. Is that clotted blood? Like, does it just work with clotted blood? Brandon Sanderson It will. So what's going here is the spikes have to - this is a weird Cosmere thing - the spikes have to think they're in a body and you gotta trick them. You don't need to use blood but that's the easiest thing that they could do to make it work. You could also leave it in a piece of meat. LadyLameness You can put the stake in the steak! Brandon Sanderson You can put a stake in a steak. But there are plenty of ways to do this without doing that. But yes, it's pretty gross. LadyLameness Not that I think they have consciousness very much, but I imagine that they're a bit stupid if they think that clotted blood is the same as a human body. Brandon Sanderson Yes. You're just tricking the stupid piece of metal that has a little bit of extra Investiture and has become slightly self-aware, and so it keeps its charge and doesn't... yeah. There are much better modern ways of doing this that have started to be used. JordanCon 2021 (July 16, 2021) Because "blood is the easiest thing to trick a spike", pee won't work. Blood is internal and should stay inside of your body, pee is a toxic waste to be released outside of your body. And blood is everywhere in your body, so it's easy to trick a spike to think it's inside of a body, if it touches blood. I doubt it would work with gastric acid as blood is important in Hemalurgy. Spoiler Master_Moridin What is the relationship between blood and the Spiritual Realm? (Since Hemalurgy needs blood to graft the sDNA in a spike into someone else's sDNA) Brandon Sanderson The blood being in motion is part of it. 17th Shard Forum Q&A (Sept. 28, 2012) Spoiler Trae Cooper (paraphrased) Why are Invested objects like metalminds and Hemalurgic spikes able to be Pushed and Pulled on, but Shardblades and Shardplate, which are also invested, are not susceptible to Pushing and Pulling? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) There were a few concepts that he outlined in answering this question. 1.) The ability to Push/Pull an Invested object is predicated to the amount/power of the Investiture. 2.) Further, Invested objects also gain resistance to pulling/pushing based on proximity to soul possibly via the soul. An example given is that a Hemalurgic spike touches the blood of the person, and from there is now part of both the Spiritual Realm and the Physical Realm. This provides what Brandon termed a kind of "soul interference," based on its proximity to the soul. [...] DragonCon 2012 (Sept. 4, 2012)
Trusk'our he/him Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Beodrakis said: we know that hemalurgic spikes can be stored in bodily materials (meat and blood) to prevent hemalurgic decay, so in theory, since pee is found in the bladder, could you store a hemalurgic spike in a massive bucket of pee to stop it from decaying? Same goes for gastric acid. , In all seriousness though, I'd say probably not; blood is considered part of the body which would have a spiritual impact on it, making it viable to trick a spike into thinking it's inside a body. Urine is a waste product and thus it probably does not have the same effect on Hemalurgic decay.
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