Spiking Spren

[Trusk'our he/him]

It is possible to Hemalurgically spike Spren. But what would it really do? I have a hypothesis; if you spike a Spren (or, at least if you spike out certain things) and implant the spike correctly in somebody you will give them a Singer Form, since that's basically what Singers do naturally. Singers themselves wouldn't have much use for this, but a human could potentially get a Singer Form available to them this way; for example, spiking a Painspren could give an approximation of Warform to a human. It also might make it easier for the human to hear the Rhythms.

It also makes me wonder about Radiant Spren Forms. My guess is that you'd get something similar to the Fused- Forms exaggerated in some way similar to a Fused's Form, like how Rabboniel was unnaturally tall and lanky.

[Through The Living Grub He/Him]

12 minutes ago, Trusk'our said:

human could potentially get a Singer Form

Human's can grow a gemheart using hemalurgy and those are a important part of bonding spren I think.

13 minutes ago, Trusk'our said:

It also might make it easier for the human to hear the Rhythms

The Rhythms can be heard because you have connection to the planet.

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[alder24]

3 hours ago, Trusk'our said:

It is possible to Hemalurgically spike Spren. But what would it really do? I have a hypothesis; if you spike a Spren (or, at least if you spike out certain things) and implant the spike correctly in somebody you will give them a Singer Form, since that's basically what Singers do naturally. Singers themselves wouldn't have much use for this, but a human could potentially get a Singer Form available to them this way; for example, spiking a Painspren could give an approximation of Warform to a human. It also might make it easier for the human to hear the Rhythms.

It also makes me wonder about Radiant Spren Forms. My guess is that you'd get something similar to the Fused- Forms exaggerated in some way similar to a Fused's Form, like how Rabboniel was unnaturally tall and lanky.

I don't know, connection is a part of Singer's form. Just spiking something from a spren won't give you singers form. You may get some physical deformations corresponding to Singer's form, but it would be far inferior to a real form. But what part of spren's spirit web gives form of powers? Yes, it's a connection, but just like Radiants gaining Surgebinding from spren, Singers are getting their specific forms because of what's in spren's spirit web. If lesser spren have some basic Surges in them, that give Singers their form, then your idea would be much more likely - as you would need to steal that and give it yourself (+ connection) - but in that case I doubt there would be big or even any physical deformations happening. But if it's something more broad, like raw investiture or strength, then deformations might follow.

[bmcclure7]

On 9/11/2023 at 10:27 AM, Trusk'our said:

It is possible to Hemalurgically spike Spren. But what would it really do? I have a hypothesis; if you spike a Spren (or, at least if you spike out certain things) and implant the spike correctly in somebody you will give them a Singer Form, since that's basically what Singers do naturally. Singers themselves wouldn't have much use for this, but a human could potentially get a Singer Form available to them this way; for example, spiking a Painspren could give an approximation of Warform to a human. It also might make it easier for the human to hear the Rhythms.

It also makes me wonder about Radiant Spren Forms. My guess is that you'd get something similar to the Fused- Forms exaggerated in some way similar to a Fused's Form, like how Rabboniel was unnaturally tall and lanky.

I wonder if it would work similar to cords abilities. 

[Trusk'our he/him]

6 hours ago, bmcclure7 said:

I wonder if it would work similar to cords abilities. 

Could certainly be the case. Maybe it could be either one depending on the type of metal of the spike and Bindpoint it was placed in the recipient.

Edited October 6, 2023 by Trusk'our

[bmcclure7]

2 hours ago, Trusk'our said:

Could certainly be the case. Maybe it could be either one depending on the type of metal of the spike and Bindpoint it was placed in the recipient.

I wonder what a human with mate, war form, or nimble form would be like? Do you think it would only de a psychological  change or also a physical one. If so what? 

[Trusk'our he/him]

1 hour ago, bmcclure7 said:

I wonder what a human with mate, war form, or nimble form would be like? Do you think it would only de a psychological  change or also a physical one. If so what? 

I imagine physical characteristics would come as part of the package, though Bindpoint placement would likely play a significant role in what characteristics come about.

However, if physical characteristics are brought about by bearing spikes that contain parts of Spren, the most logical assumption about the physical and psychological characteristics they would bring would be similar to those of Listener/Singer Forms; Mateform would probably have exaggerated secondary sexual characteristics with an increase in libido, Nimbleform would probably be thin with relatively low stamina but an adaptable mind (which might actually be close to what humans would normally have psychologically), and Warform would be bigger, taller, and far more muscular as well as making the bearer of the spike more geared towards violence.

But we don't really know what happens if you spike a Spren yet, though it's fun to hypothesize.