ivychroma Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 Title says it all really. Where does Nightblood's black smoke go? Is it just thinly dissipated into the atmosphere, or does it go back to the Spiritual Realm and into the Shard that the Investiture originally belonged to? If I kept Nightblood in a box would the box eventually get filled with smoke? If Nightblood stays on a planet for too long will it cause climate change? On a similar note, why don't Returned give off smoke from the Breaths/Investiture they consume, and where does that Investiture go? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alder24 Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 25 minutes ago, ivychroma said: Title says it all really. Where does Nightblood's black smoke go? Is it just thinly dissipated into the atmosphere, or does it go back to the Spiritual Realm and into the Shard that the Investiture originally belonged to? If I kept Nightblood in a box would the box eventually get filled with smoke? If Nightblood stays on a planet for too long will it cause climate change? Welcome to the Shard. The black smoke Nightblood leaks is corrupted Breaths - the Breaths got consumed and changed into something else and that's leaking from Nightblood. They were most likely corrupted by Ruin due to Nightblood's command "destroy". It's still Investiture, and in Cosmere investiture can't be destroyed, just like energy in our universe. The smoke just returns to the Spiritual Realm, but we don't know to which Shard it returns - to one that it originally belonged to, or to the one that corrupted them (Ruin). It won't stay in the Physical Realm, in a box or on a planet for long. Spoiler Brandon Sanderson Anyway, Nightblood is named for the smoke he leaks, and he originally had a different name when he was created. Vasher himself dubbed the sword Nightblood after he had used it to kill the woman he loved. The blackness that leaks out is actually corrupted and consumed Breaths, the ones that Nightblood leeches off anyone who draws him. Warbreaker Annotations (April 25, 2011) Spoiler uchoo786 So just for clarification, once Nightblood consumes investiture, that investiture gets recycled? That's what I've always assumed. That it enters the cognitive/spiritual realm? Brandon Sanderson The investiture he consumes is not gone forever--it's not leaving the system, so to speak. General Reddit 2016 (Jan. 1, 2016) Spoiler Walin Does Nightblood contain any of Ruin's Investiture? Like, not atium, but... Brandon Sanderson Yes, technically; and I'm not wiggling around that, because technically, location in the Cosmere and who belongs to what gets really weird, right? Because Ruin's Investiture is everywhere--but I'm not talking that way. I'm talking the way you actually mean it. Legion Release Party (Sept. 19, 2018) Spoiler ajrula A being with a lot of Investiture worldhops, then dies. What happens to the Investiture that was part of them? Brandon Sanderson Most likely, it returns to the Spiritual Realm, where all places are one, and where you were is irrelevant. #SandersonChat Twitter Q&A with Audible.com (Feb. 4, 2016) 30 minutes ago, ivychroma said: On a similar note, why don't Returned give off smoke from the Breaths/Investiture they consume, and where does that Investiture go? Because they don't corrupt Breaths, they don't change them, and they don't hold as much investiture as Nightblood holds. Returned just consume Breaths in its entirety. The Breath they've consumed powers their Divine Breath for another week. Nightblood isn't like that, he consumes and corrupts everything. There is more Investiture in the sword than it can actually hold - that's why he leaks it. Returned aren't nearly as invested to leak investiture like that. Investiture consumed by them eventually goes back to the Spiritual Realm and to the Shard it came from. Spoiler Yata When someone dies on Nalthis, their Breaths: go away with the soul, or remain in the corpse? Brandon Sanderson Breaths return to Endowment. [...] Oathbringer London signing (Nov. 28, 2017) Mistborn spoiler WoB: Spoiler Master_Moridin Why does Preservation fueling Allomancy not weaken Preservation compared to Ruin? Brandon Sanderson Because the power, once used, returns to him--much as water, after passing over a turbine, continues on in its system. 17th Shard Forum Q&A (Sept. 28, 2012) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firesong Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 46 minutes ago, alder24 said: Because they don't corrupt Breaths, they don't change them, and they don't hold as much investiture as Nightblood holds. Returned just consume Breaths in its entirety. The Breath they've consumed powers their Divine Breath for another week. Nightblood isn't like that, he consumes and corrupts everything. There is more Investiture in the sword than it can actually hold - that's why he leaks it. Returned aren't nearly as invested to leak investiture like that. Small correction and elaboration, they technically do change it. But in a very different way. The way that they change Breaths is that, when they take in a Breath, it gets Keyed to their Identity. This happens to anyone taking in Breaths, not just Returned. This is why when you Awaken something, not just anyone can remove it. It is also why Lifeless can't have Breaths removed, as the Breath takes on its own Identity that is not identical to the Awakener. This likely also happened to the Breaths used to Awaken Nightblood, as it became sentient. But yes, basically, they just don't corrupt Investiture like Nightblood does. They mostly just act as a vessel for it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alder24 Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Firesong said: Small correction and elaboration, they technically do change it. But in a very different way. The way that they change Breaths is that, when they take in a Breath, it gets Keyed to their Identity. This happens to anyone taking in Breaths, not just Returned. This is why when you Awaken something, not just anyone can remove it. It is also why Lifeless can't have Breaths removed, as the Breath takes on its own Identity that is not identical to the Awakener. This likely also happened to the Breaths used to Awaken Nightblood, as it became sentient. But yes, basically, they just don't corrupt Investiture like Nightblood does. They mostly just act as a vessel for it. I meant they don't change it into corrupt or raw investiture or something like that. They don't turn Breaths into something else like Nightblood. Identity doesn't matter here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firesong Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 Just now, alder24 said: I meant they don't change it into corrupt or raw investiture or something like that. They don't turn Breaths into something else like Nightblood. Identity doesn't matter here. Yeah, they don't, I was just giving a small specification/clarification for Ivychroma, as what you said could be interpreted as them not changing it at all. We do ultimately agree they don't change it like NB does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trav Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 If you leave Nightblood out it would eventually stop leaking. The investiture returns to where it came from. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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