Stupid Cultivation Theory

[Nick_Nack_Patty_Whack]

To preface this, I'm tired, so I'll probably delete this topic later.  Now for the "theory" (please point out all the things I get incorrect):

Cultivation is going to die at the end of KoWT. but that's not the end of her story.  Since the vessels of Honor and Cultivation were in a relation and Honor died, Cultivation went fully into her shardic intent, while still being able to join Tanavast in the beyond (or whatever it's called). 

At some point I think Wyndle said something (in Edgedancer?) along the lines of (about Cultivaiton and Honor)

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"She stopped caring, since he's gone..."

I feel like of the shards we know of, Cultivation has the best future sight.  So, Cultivation has some plan that "maximizes" growth in the peoples of Roshar (and not necessarily in the good or bad way).  The protagonists are going to spend the second half of the Stormlight Archives trying to figure out what Cultivation's plan is.

 

And just to throw this in at the end with nothing to back this up, Adolin has a chance of becoming cultivation, due to his "cultivation"-like relationship with helping Maya "develop" consciousness.

Edited July 9 by Nick_Nack_Patty_Whack

[alder24]

11 minutes ago, Nick_Nack_Patty_Whack said:

To preface this, I'm tired, so I'll probably delete this topic later.

Don't do this! It's still fun!

12 minutes ago, Nick_Nack_Patty_Whack said:

Cultivation is going to die at the end of KoWT. but that's not the end of her story. 

It's very likely that she will die in SA, there are many hints towards this, Lift being the main one. There is a popular theory that Lift is meant to replace Koravellium as the new Cultivation Vessel, because Cultivation touched Taravangian who was meant to be new Odium's Vessel, and Dalinar who might become new Honor's Vessel (he's already halfway to it). Cultivation seems to be cultivating new Vessels for Shards.

14 minutes ago, Nick_Nack_Patty_Whack said:

Since the vessels of Honor and Cultivation were in a relation and Honor died, Cultivation went fully into her shardic intent, while still being able to join Tanavast in the beyond (or whatever it's called). 

That's impossible. As long as she lives, she can't reach into the Beyond. Even Shards can't reach there. If she dies, she will be reunited with Tanavest.

But here is a thing - Honor left his Cognitive Shadow behind, it merged with Stormfather. Cultivation knows about it and has some feelings for him.

Spoiler

WeiryWriter

What are Cultivation's feelings with regards to the Stormfather?

Brandon Sanderson

Cultivation's feelings... Cultivation is, *long pause* I just have to decide how I can say things that are not spoilers. Cultivation-- The Stormfather reminds her of certain things about someone else she knew, and she feels the same way about the Stormfather in some ways as this person that she knew.

JordanCon 2014 (April 11, 2014)

 

22 minutes ago, Nick_Nack_Patty_Whack said:

At some point I think Wyndle said something (in Edgedancer?) along the lines of (about Cultivaiton and Honor)

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"She stopped caring, since he's gone..."

 

Good catch. I don't remember this.

25 minutes ago, Nick_Nack_Patty_Whack said:

And just to throw this in at the end with nothing to back this up, Adolin has a chance of becoming cultivation, due to his "cultivation"-like relationship with helping Maya "develop" consciousness. 

Yeah, "with nothing to back this up"  He is an Edgedancer type, but does this qualify him to Ascend to Cultivation?

[Ookla the Confusing]

There is some evidence to the contrary in Yumi and the Nightmare Painter.

[Firesong]

3 minutes ago, Aetherbound said:

There is some evidence to the contrary in Yumi and the Nightmare Painter.

Not really, Spoilers

Spoiler

He just said Cultivation, not Koravellium. So she can die and the Shard be taken up by another Vessel. 

 

[Ookla the Confusing]

Sorry, I misread it as saying cultivation(the shard) would be either splintered or fused with honor.

[Nick_Nack_Patty_Whack]

8 hours ago, alder24 said:

Don't do this! It's still fun!

It's very likely that she will die in SA, there are many hints towards this, Lift being the main one. There is a popular theory that Lift is meant to replace Koravellium as the new Cultivation Vessel, because Cultivation touched Taravangian who was meant to be new Odium's Vessel, and Dalinar who might become new Honor's Vessel (he's already halfway to it). Cultivation seems to be cultivating new Vessels for Shards.

That's impossible. As long as she lives, she can't reach into the Beyond. Even Shards can't reach there. If she dies, she will be reunited with Tanavest.

But here is a thing - Honor left his Cognitive Shadow behind, it merged with Stormfather. Cultivation knows about it and has some feelings for him.

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WeiryWriter

What are Cultivation's feelings with regards to the Stormfather?

Brandon Sanderson

Cultivation's feelings... Cultivation is, *long pause* I just have to decide how I can say things that are not spoilers. Cultivation-- The Stormfather reminds her of certain things about someone else she knew, and she feels the same way about the Stormfather in some ways as this person that she knew.

JordanCon 2014 (April 11, 2014)

 

Good catch. I don't remember this.

Yeah, "with nothing to back this up"  He is an Edgedancer type, but does this qualify him to Ascend to Cultivation?

Thanks for the info, this is definitely an aluminum foil hat theory.  I'm just throwing as much spaghetti at the wall and hoping something sticks.

Best idea yet, there's a plan to cultivate Tanavast's cognitive shadow.

I'm probably just projecting some, I don't want anything bad to happen to Adolin.  (Lift is definitely more likely to be Cultivations next vessel.)

 

49 minutes ago, Aetherbound said:

Sorry, I misread it as saying cultivation(the shard) would be either splintered or fused with honor.

I definitely could have done a better job of explaining things.  Please don't judge me too much... actually judge me harshly, otherwise, I'll never learn.

Edited July 9 by Nick_Nack_Patty_Whack