DSC01 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I haven't seen any discussion of this, the epigraph from chapter 11 of The Way of Kings--not that I doubt it's here somewhere--and it really intrigues me. Cultivation and Honor are two of the three mentioned, but who is the third? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Odium. Odium reigns. He's the shard of Hatred. Proper name is Rayse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC01 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 He's not from Roshar, though. He's definitely the broken one, but I don't think he's one of the "three of sixteen." And evidence suggests that the Bondsmith's bond the spren of Shards. Odium would definitely not be one of those. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Hoodie Mistborn Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Not sure who downvoted you DSC01, didn't seem worthy of a down vote to me, so have a balancing upvote! Odium is the most likely answer, he's not from Roshar originally, but is now in that system: ZASSo the number of Shards that have been on Roshar is three, correct?BRANDON SANDERSON Correct.ZASPeople have been thrown by you saying that Odium is not native to Roshar.BRANDONOdium is not native, that's the thing. Are any of them native? So if you dig the deeper question, are any of them native, ehhh, none of them are native to the planets you've seen so far. What I probably should've said to be more precise is that Honor and Cultivation were there long before Odium showed up INTERVIEW: Aug 8th, 2013 Spokane Signing Report - theofficetroll (Paraphrased) BRANDON SANDERSON Odium's presence is felt on Roshar, but he is on Braize, the 3rd planet in the system. There have only ever been 3 Shards on Roshar, so if it's not Odium, then it must be Cultivation that is now "broken" some how. Which I might buy... As to the Bondsmiths... there is suggestion that they bond "godspren", but those may be only mixes of Honor/Cultivation is different proportions (my favorite theory), which wouldn't impede them bonding even if Odium was the reigning broken one. Edited July 18, 2014 by Green Hoodie Mistborn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyht Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 The 3 seem fairly obvious as shards. However, does the broken one have to be one of those three? I wondered if instead it is the storm father, who is a broken splinter of one of the three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 He's not from Roshar, though. He's definitely the broken one, but I don't think he's one of the "three of sixteen." And evidence suggests that the Bondsmith's bond the spren of Shards. Odium would definitely not be one of those. Bondsmiths seem to bond spren of Honor, not necessarily any Shard. Each Order's spren is a certain percentage of Honor and a certain percentage of Cultivation. Bonding a spren of a Shard that isn't Honor would necessarily mess this up. Not that you can't do it, but if you could you wouldn't be a Bondsmith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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