Aetherbound on other planets

[Tamriel Wolfsbaine]

I am curious which planets are invested enough or have the right atmosphere or whatever to allow aetherboind creations to exist more long term?  

Is it simply a matter or the investiture on the planet?  

If an aether bound such as twinsoul were to get trapped in a field far away from shelter when a highstorm comes through and he decided to create a roseite shelter... 

Would he dehydrate himself maintaining it throughout the storm?

Would Roshars native investiture levels allow it to be maintained in definately once created?  

Would the high storm fuel it and allow it to be maintained only while in the storm and then he would have to let it go or risk being dehydrated?  

Side question.  

How do you think aetherbinding would work in shadesmar / other cognitive realms? 

Edited June 19, 2023 by Tamriel Wolfsbaine

[Underwater_Worldhopper he/him]

3 hours ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said:

I am curious which planets are invested enough or have the right atmosphere or whatever to allow aetherboind creations to exist more long term?  

Is it simply a matter or the investiture on the planet?

Almost certainly not. It needs certain "Investiture fields", which aren't the same as how much Investiture is present. Scadrial is Invested by two different Shards, and to a much greater degree than other Shardworlds because P&R created Scadrial from scratch, yet it does nor have the required Fields.

Unfortunately, we just don't know what these Fields of Investiture are, so it's a guessing game on which planets have them and which don't.

3 hours ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said:

If an aether bound such as twinsoul were to get trapped in a field far away from shelter when a highstorm comes through and he decided to create a roseite shelter... 

1. Would he dehydrate himself maintaining it throughout the storm?

2. Would Roshars native investiture levels allow it to be maintained in definately once created?  

3. Would the high storm fuel it and allow it to be maintained only while in the storm and then he would have to let it go or risk being dehydrated?

1. He probably would, unless he had a source of water to drink from and keep himself hydrated, or perhaps by making a hole small enough to let water in that he could drink.

2. We don't know if Roshar has the necessary Investiture Fields, but I'd say there's a decent chance, what with Investiture literally falling from the sky on a regular basis.

3. There's two possible ways this can play out, depending on how exactly Investiture Fields maintaining Aethers works. If the Aether will just remain unaffected and won't decay once the Aetherbound leaves it, then the Highstorm (maybe not the Highstorm itself but rather the Investiture Fields themselves) could theoretically maintain it without the Aetherbound needing to do anything more beyond creating the shelter.

However, if the Investiture Fields just allow an Aetherbound to maintain the water-feeding (Luhel?) bond at a distance, then they would continue to get dehydrated and need more water. Thats the one that I personally believe.

The Highstorm itself won't be able to sustain it through supplying water. The water has to come from the body of the Aetherbound. If the Aetherbound is a Radiant and has Stormlight, they could maybe use the Stormlight to fuel the Roseite, either directly with no finagling needed or through some Investiture-conversion hacks, if it's possible to do it in a random Roseite box in a field somewhere, but otherwise they'll need a lot of water to sustain the Roseite box.

3 hours ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said:

Side question.  

How do you think aetherbinding would work in shadesmar / other cognitive realms? 

If the Aetherbound travelled to the CR physically through a Perpendicularity, it should work exactly the same way. Planetary Subastrals may or may not have the necessary Investiture Fields required for the upkeep of the Aether, but the Aetherbound should still be able to use the Aether like Prasanva does in TLM.

If you're just observing an Aetherbound in the PR from the CR, I have no idea what it would look like.

[Tamriel Wolfsbaine]

1 hour ago, Underwater_Worldhopper said:

Almost certainly not. It needs certain "Investiture fields", which aren't the same as how much Investiture is present. Scadrial is Invested by two different Shards, and to a much greater degree than other Shardworlds because P&R created Scadrial from scratch, yet it does nor have the required Fields.

Unfortunately, we just don't know what these Fields of Investiture are, so it's a guessing game on which planets have them and which don't.

1. He probably would, unless he had a source of water to drink from and keep himself hydrated, or perhaps by making a hole small enough to let water in that he could drink.

2. We don't know if Roshar has the necessary Investiture Fields, but I'd say there's a decent chance, what with Investiture literally falling from the sky on a regular basis.

3. There's two possible ways this can play out, depending on how exactly Investiture Fields maintaining Aethers works. If the Aether will just remain unaffected and won't decay once the Aetherbound leaves it, then the Highstorm (maybe not the Highstorm itself but rather the Investiture Fields themselves) could theoretically maintain it without the Aetherbound needing to do anything more beyond creating the shelter.

However, if the Investiture Fields just allow an Aetherbound to maintain the water-feeding (Luhel?) bond at a distance, then they would continue to get dehydrated and need more water. Thats the one that I personally believe.

The Highstorm itself won't be able to sustain it through supplying water. The water has to come from the body of the Aetherbound. If the Aetherbound is a Radiant and has Stormlight, they could maybe use the Stormlight to fuel the Roseite, either directly with no finagling needed or through some Investiture-conversion hacks, if it's possible to do it in a random Roseite box in a field somewhere, but otherwise they'll need a lot of water to sustain the Roseite box.

If the Aetherbound travelled to the CR physically through a Perpendicularity, it should work exactly the same way. Planetary Subastrals may or may not have the necessary Investiture Fields required for the upkeep of the Aether, but the Aetherbound should still be able to use the Aether like Prasanva does in TLM.

If you're just observing an Aetherbound in the PR from the CR, I have no idea what it would look like.

Does Prasanva require constant water to keep the roseite in the world while touching it?  Or is the water only a requirement while growing it?  Did his golem suit continually drain investiture or was it only draining while being grown and regrown?  

[alder24]

6 hours ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said:

If an aether bound such as twinsoul were to get trapped in a field far away from shelter when a highstorm comes through and he decided to create a roseite shelter... 

He would need a way to access Stormlight, something like Vasher is doing, then he would be able to create whatever he wants in a Highstorm, feeding it with Stormlight, not his water. There is no "invested atmosphere" or something like that. Some words like Roshar have a very easy access to investiture, because of Highstorm, others, like Scadrial don't.

Prasanva created his roseite armor without getting dehydrated, because he used Dor to feed it instead of water.

6 hours ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said:

How do you think aetherbinding would work in shadesmar / other cognitive realms? 

Normally. Water or investiture to make Aethers.

23 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said:

Does Prasanva require constant water to keep the roseite in the world while touching it?  Or is the water only a requirement while growing it?  Did his golem suit continually drain investiture or was it only draining while being grown and regrown?  

I think he needs it constantly, but mostly during growing. Without connection to him, Aethers die.

[Underwater_Worldhopper he/him]

1 hour ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said:

Does Prasanva require constant water to keep the roseite in the world while touching it?  Or is the water only a requirement while growing it?  Did his golem suit continually drain investiture or was it only draining while being grown and regrown?  

I imagine he needs more of it to grow it and then a smaller amount to maintain it. The Golem Suit probably only used the Investiture while growing, or used a non-appreciable amount to keep it there.

[Walter The Moral]

If TwinSoul went into the Cognitive Relam, would Silajana be there with him. Are Primal Aethers in the Cognitive Realm? How would he look there?

[Underwater_Worldhopper he/him]

1 hour ago, Walter The Moral said:

If TwinSoul went into the Cognitive Relam, would Silajana be there with him. Are Primal Aethers in the Cognitive Realm? How would he look there?

Silajana is still back on the original Aether planet, so far as we can tell. Twinsoul can just talk to him because he's his Aetherbound and has a Connection to him. Twinsoul would look the same in the CR, but if you looked at him on the PR from the CR, the bud on his hand may look different to the rest of him.