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It seems plausible that it could have been after that date, but if if was soon after (which seems the most likely, given Steelheart was published around 2011/2012) then it's unlikely that the toys would have been released. The book implies that things went downhill pretty soon after Annexation Day, in most of the US, and releasing toys for a movie that many people might not see doesn't seem probable.

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And what's the asterisk for?

It was supposed to be a +. Human sized and Bigger.

 

And yeah, I wasn't going to use a Jaeger anyway. I just wanted options.

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I'd just like to point out that terms like "prime invincibility" were coined by David, and are thus highly unlikely to be in common usage among Oregon's Epics.

 

I'm re-reading the novel right now and it's subtly admonishing me on things like this. I'm pretty sure I've used "prime invincibility" and "High Epic" both in Lightwards' POV scenes.  <_<

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I'd just like to point out that terms like "prime invincibility" were coined by David, and are thus highly unlikely to be in common usage among Oregon's Epics.

 

I'm re-reading the novel right now and it's subtly admonishing me on things like this. I'm pretty sure I've used "prime invincibility" and "High Epic" both in Lightwards' POV scenes.  <_<

I just finished my readthrough, I forgot that at the end they do state that no Epics can bring others back to life but we can chalk that up to the records of Lightwards existence being destroyed along with the rest of the city.

I think 'High Epic' would be pretty common in the slang though.

EDIT: And a quick search shows that that last post by Mailliw was the only one to use the phrase 'prime invincibility' so far.

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I just finished my readthrough, I forgot that at the end they do state that no Epics can bring others back to life but we can chalk that up to the records of Lightwards existence being destroyed along with the rest of the city.

I think 'High Epic' would be pretty common in the slang though.

 

The book actually says that? Dang.

 

It's going to be rather annoying if the series concludes and proves that all of these Epics were impossible within the universe's rules because of subtle details about Calamity we don't know about it. Obviously the series and the RP will both still be awesome, but an annoying factor will spawn nonetheless.

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I assume we've all read it but just in case.


When David sees Megan at the final showdown after she 'dies' and Tia says it's probably just an illusion, he says maybe an Epic brought her back but then they both say no Epics can.

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I base Doctor Funtimes on David's brief mention of "some bizarre Epics" and excuse her under that same clause.

But yeah, it'd suck if we were breaking all the "rules" of the 'verse. But...I don't know. For Lightwards, I guess you could excuse it with the "came back wrong" defense.

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I base Doctor Funtimes on David's brief mention of "some bizarre Epics" and excuse her under that same clause.

But yeah, it'd suck if we were breaking all the "rules" of the 'verse. But...I don't know. For Lightwards, I guess you could excuse it with the "came back wrong" defense.

 

Yeah, and his power base is pretty much an unconventional combination of confirmed powers in-universe. Gifting + self-resurrection = necromancer professor with armies of zombies. It's just simple logic. :P

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And his restriction works too, that he can't gift it to living people because some Epic powers don't work on living things, it's just that most people who can only gift to dead people probably wouldn't notice :P

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Yeah, and his power base is pretty much an unconventional combination of confirmed powers in-universe. Gifting + self-resurrection = necromancer professor with armies of zombies. It's just simple logic. :P

 

Who wouldn't conclude that? Nobody, that's who. :P 

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Also, reading various perspectives on CorpseMaker, I realized something: Every other Epic in this RP is either afraid of him, in awe of him, or both. The only one who didn't seem afraid when she met him was Doctor Funtimes, who decided he would look good in neon hammer pants after christening him Jeffrey. 

 

And when she mentioned beating Fortuity, CorpseMaker decided to tread carefully around her. 

 

How did someone whose shoes don't match wind up being one of the scariest Epics in the game? 

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I'm giving the Altermind/Lightwards negotiations a while to catch up. All Funtimes really has to do is finish turning the museum into a jungle, say "Happy Unbirthday, here's your present" to Lightwards, and get out of there. 

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So Twi would you mind if SoulSwitch picked up a couple of non-combative minor epics? (I'm thinking later on depending on what happens with the P's that he might form his own minor faction)

Refill: Can top up any drink he touches indefinitely
Zip: Can compress the space an object takes up, this causes it to appear smaller although it actually isn’t. (If he used this on a bag, he’d still be able to store just as many items in the bag as before)

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What would happen if he reanimated Soulcast meat? O.o

More zombies of course, duh. :P

 

 

And yeah, I wasn't going to use a Jaeger anyway. I just wanted options.

There are always power ranger Megazords. :ph34r:

 

I'd just like to point out that terms like "prime invincibility" were coined by David, and are thus highly unlikely to be in common usage among Oregon's Epics.

 

I'm re-reading the novel right now and it's subtly admonishing me on things like this. I'm pretty sure I've used "prime invincibility" and "High Epic" both in Lightwards' POV scenes.  <_<

Meh, the terms are logical enough, at least for more "sensible" Epics like Lightwards.

 

The book actually says that? Dang.

 

It's going to be rather annoying if the series concludes and proves that all of these Epics were impossible within the universe's rules because of subtle details about Calamity we don't know about it. Obviously the series and the RP will both still be awesome, but an annoying factor will spawn nonetheless.

I was somewhat hesistant with Nighthounds mindcontrol ability because nothing like it was mentioned but ultimetly decided: "Storm it, Epic powers don´t have to make sense." So don´t worry about it. Furthermore, we have other elements that skirt the cannon border (Funtimes and gold, PP´s tech, Corpsmaker messing with the power of others, which is kind of a reversed gifting) and no one raised a flag about them.

Also, reading various perspectives on CorpseMaker, I realized something: Every other Epic in this RP is either afraid of him, in awe of him, or both. The only one who didn't seem afraid when she met him was Doctor Funtimes, who decided he would look good in neon hammer pants after christening him Jeffrey. 

 

And when she mentioned beating Fortuity, CorpseMaker decided to tread carefully around her. 

 

How did someone whose shoes don't match wind up being one of the scariest Epics in the game? 

Not really, Nighthound hasn´t really formed an opinion of him and Voidgaze´s went from hopping in a bouncy castle in fron of him to Now I,ve got to kill him, so she´s more annoyed than scared or impressed.

 

Complete insanity and a broken powerful ability?

 

Oh, well let me see if Voidgaze does anything else than just sitting in silence and eating.

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I'm pretty sure mind control was referenced as an Epic power indirectly when David was talking to Tia about how he classifies mental illusionists with other mentalists not with photon illusionists.
EDIT: And what about PP's tech borders non-cannon? I tried as best I could to make it seem like a much earlier version of the gauss gun :S

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I'm pretty sure mind control was referenced as an Epic power indirectly when David was talking to Tia about how he classifies mental illusionists with other mentalists not with photon illusionists.

EDIT: And what about PP's tech borders non-cannon? I tried as best I could to make it seem like a much earlier version of the gauss gun :S

It did? All the better.

 

It´s a couple of slight detail (that admidetly come from my limited understanding of engeniering, so I could be talking nonsense here) but I would imagine

1) older tech to be more clunky and not small and durable enough to function as a glove, even if its power is turned down, similar to how old cell phones and computers used to be both extremly clunky and less powerful.

2) The fact that converting this kind of energy seems very power expensive, so it should be hoocked up to some form of battery all the time.

3)Transfering the energy and charging an object up sounds a lot more complicated and advcanced that just shooting it out and obliberating the first object of contact.

 

In its current form it reminds me more of the Tensor, which isn´t actual technology but hey, I´m not saying it´s impossible.

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Yeah, to be honest I did consider having it be a lot clunkier, my only reason for not doing it was plot convenience, it'd be a hard secret to keep if he was lugging a massive machine around :P
I tried to get around the power consumption by having it at a lot smaller scale (The Gauss gun destroyed entire buildings with one shot of a bullet sized projectile, PP would need something about the size of a watermelon to even come close) and by actually exploding things instead of vaporizing them.

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“The mental illusionists tend to be limited in similar ways to other mentalists like those with hypnotism powers, or mind-control effects. Illusionists that can alter light work differently. They are far more similar to the electricity-manipulation Epics.”

 

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Voidgaze makes an interesting point.

 

What would happen if Lightwards tried to resurrect two steaks from the same cow? :o

I actually had her ask because I´m curios, can he clone or is there some kind of magical block and if his power can tell the difference what happens, if he tries to use it on a skeleton reconstructed from multiple individuals from the same species.

Ultimately you decide (or Twi).

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I actually had her ask because I´m curios, can he clone or is there some kind of magical block and if his power can tell the difference what happens, if he tries to use it on a skeleton reconstructed from multiple individuals from the same species.

Ultimately you decide (or Twi).

 

It would essentially be gifting the same power to the same person multiple times. I don't know of anything stopping it, but we have no evidence to support that such a thing would be possible.

 

By the way, would it be out of line for Lightwards to offer Voidgaze a job with the Empire, offering her own dinosaur?  :ph34r::P

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It would essentially be gifting the same power to the same person multiple times. I don't know of anything stopping it, but we have no evidence to support that such a thing would be possible.

 

By the way, would it be out of line for Lightwards to offer Voidgaze a job with the Empire, offering her own dinosaur?  :ph34r::P

Zomby clones! :blink:

 

You can try (maybe calling it something along the lines of an emmissary, if you want to be sneaky about it.) but the situation would go downhill fast, when she meets Nighthound. It´s your own risk. :P

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