Splitting Harmonium

[Scars of Hathsin he/him]

Hi, this is my first post here,

I have recently read the Lost Metal. 

I was thinking they could maybe effectively make Lerasium and Atium, by separating it using electric currents to the point where it organises itself into A & L. They could maybe split it with a Trellium spike the Intent to split it, maybe with a Command as well. It could make Lerasium and Atium in larger quantities, and make it more accessible?

Please correct me if I am wrong. 

 

[alder24]

Hi, welcome to the Shard  

12 hours ago, Scars of Hathsin said:

I was thinking they could maybe effectively make Lerasium and Atium, by separating it using electric currents to the point where it organises itself into A & L. They could maybe split it with a Trellium spike the Intent to split it, maybe with a Command as well.

That's the very thing which Wax did. He used electric current to change Harmonium into 2 visibly separate parts, yet still connected to each other (it likely still wasn't Atium and Lerasium) as he can't reach greater currents. Then Wax used proper intent (he wanted to split Harmonium into Atium and Lerasium) and split it with Trellium spike. After the first explosion, he tried to collect something from the broken test side, and the second explosion occurred, presumably it was Harmonium reacting with water vapor.

But that's the problem. We know from the description what he did. But we don't know how he managed to create Lerasium in the process. Harmony and Kandra tried to replicate this process, and they only got Atium from it, but no Lerasium (at least that's what Sazed told Kel). If they did everything like Wax did, how on Ruin Wax was able to get Lerasium from it? Kandra should do it with the intent of creating Lerasium, as they already knew it's possible. But they didn't get it. We don't know what happened there. Maybe it was the second explosion that created Lerasium, as Wax tried to Preserve Harmonium?

So we know what Wax did, and he did what you're describing, we don't know which one of his actions was the one that created Lerasium, or how it's different from what Kandra did later.

There are several topics about Wax's experiment on this forum, but we have nothing more than theories at this point.

[Ruin's Scariest Koloss]

3 hours ago, alder24 said:

Harmony and Kandra tried to replicate this process, and they only got Atium from it, but no Lerasium (at least that's what Sazed told Kel).

My immediate hunch is that Sazed lied when he said they didn't get Lerasium.

[alder24]

12 minutes ago, Ruin's Scariest Koloss said:

My immediate hunch is that Sazed lied when he said they didn't get Lerasium.

I thought that too, but then I remembered how bad he is at lying in SH. Kel would likely recognize that. And that's more fun for us, there is another secret to solve.

[StanLemon]

50 minutes ago, alder24 said:

I thought that too, but then I remembered how bad he is at lying in SH. Kel would likely recognize that. And that's more fun for us, there is another secret to solve.

Or the more terrifying possibility that Sazed has gotten really good at lying 

[alder24]

Just now, StanLemon said:

Or the more terrifying possibility that Sazed has gotten really good at lying 

Poor Sazed. What godhood does to a man...

[Ruin's Scariest Koloss]

1 minute ago, StanLemon said:

Or the more terrifying possibility that Sazed has gotten really good at lying 

That's what I was thinking. He seems like he's hardened since ascending.

[trav]

On 22/03/2023 at 6:20 PM, alder24 said:

I thought that too, but then I remembered how bad he is at lying in SH. Kel would likely recognize that. And that's more fun for us, there is another secret to solve.

He conned Kel by pretending to be bad at lying just so he could lie at a more important moment.

[alder24]

7 minutes ago, trav said:

He conned Kel by pretending to be bad at lying just so he could lie at a more important moment.

And this is an example of unjustifiable necro posting. It's a half year old thread, and your post adds nothing to the original topic. Don't do that. 

[trav]

1 hour ago, alder24 said:

And this is an example of unjustifiable necro posting. It's a half year old thread, and your post adds nothing to the original topic. Don't do that. 

This post didn't even fall off from the first page since there are so little new ones created. Whats your point lol. Can't reply to topics on the literal first page now, huh?

[RadDaikon34]

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Harmony and Kandra tried to replicate this process, and they only got Atium from it, but no Lerasium (at least that's what Sazed told Kel).

I know this is almost a year old thread but I’m wondering if this is because Kandra are of Ruin so they can only get the Atium

[alder24]

5 hours ago, RadDaikon34 said:

I know this is almost a year old thread but I’m wondering if this is because Kandra are of Ruin so they can only get the Atium

Are they of Ruin? They were made by Rashek to betray Ruin, they consider themselves of Preservation and TenSoon is Harmony's Preservation. They don't kill, don't destroy, don't ruin. Sure they have Hemalurgic spikes, but that doesn't mean they're of Ruin. Their choices define their allegiance.

I think it's simply an intent problem. Wax spit Harmonium while thinking that if he were to get Atium or Lerasium, that wouldn't change anything about him - he was Preserving himself. Kandra most likely didn't have that intent.

TLM ch 15:

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It took a good half hour to set the whole thing up. All the while, Wax wondered. What if he did split harmonium? He’d have two metals, the bodies of gods, each capable of incredible things from ancient lore, like manipulating time or creating beings with mythological Mistborn abilities. What if he had that power? What would that change about him?
Nothing, he thought to himself. I’ve held that power. And when I had it, I used it to save my friends.