Blue-phoenix186 Posted March 10, 2023 Report Share Posted March 10, 2023 So what emotion or aspect? Is Odium I already read the books twice. And I am still confused about it he’s not decay or destruction because that’s Ruin is he anger or hate violence I am honestly just confused 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treamayne Posted March 10, 2023 Report Share Posted March 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Blue-phoenix186 said: So what emotion or aspect? Is Odium I already read the books twice. And I am still confused about it he’s not decay or destruction because that’s Ruin is he anger or hate violence I am honestly just confused It is meant to be slightly "off." Part of the reason is the Vessel not aligning entirely with the Shard's Intent. Words of Brandon: Spoiler Quote yulerule So it's the flavor-- Because I actually did have it - they're all translations, why not <Hatred instead of Odium?> Brandon Sanderson Because Odium is cooler. It just sounds cooler. There is no answer other than "I like the word better." yulerule Is there any connection with the thought that it's not Hatred? Because in Oathbringer, he says he's Passion? Brandon Sanderson He would claim that he's Passion and not Odium. But that is part of why I chose it. Hatred felt too on-the-nose, because there is quite arguably that step toward just being all Passion, and that's what he claims that he is. yulerule His own perception of himself, can perception, in the cosmere, can that influence? Brandon Sanderson Yes, it can influence. yulerule So the Shard's intent can-- Brandon Sanderson Can be influenced by their perception and the holder's, yes. Quote Billy Todd, Moderator Follow-up question there. Would the entity that we call Odium refer to itself as Odium when it's honest with itself? Brandon Sanderson Ehhh, I don't think Odium is capable of being honest with himself. *laughter* There are times where Odium has called himself Odium. That is more out of convenience and the fact that everyone calls you by a name. But Odium is determined to change that perception. Billy Todd, Moderator So, does he genuinely believe in characterizing himself as Passion? Brandon Sanderson Yes. Part of him does. Billy Todd, Moderator Has he always ever been Odium since the Shattering? Brandon Sanderson Yes. Quote Striker_EZ Why didn't Odium take the Investiture away from the Fused that rebelled against him at the end of Rhythm of War? At the end of Oathbringer, Odium tells one Fused that questioned him that he could take "that which gave [the Fused] life." So why didn't he do that to Leshwi and the others? Brandon Sanderson This is actually an excellent question. Odium, in his previous incarnation-- we'll see how he acts now-- part of the driving force of Odium is this kind of belief, mistaken or otherwise, that Odium represents all emotion, and strength of emotion, and basically the Passions in lore. Rebelling against him in the way that they did is actually in line with Odium's personal directives. The Vessel may not like it, in fact the power may not like it, but at the same time, there's a part of both of them that acknowledges, this is what they set in motion, and this is an appropriate use of the agency of the agents they chose. And so, unilaterally destroying those who turn against him is actually not an Odium thing. It's more an Honor thing than it would be an Odium thing. It's just not in line with how Odium acts or thinks, even though it's possible and there's threats and... That's not saying Odium wouldn't do it. But acting like Honor is not something Odium would necessarily want to do. Hope that helps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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