Hoids Imaginary Friend Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) There's always another secret.. Ok, so TLM shows that Kel is lying to someone regarding him still having allomancy. Either the ghostbloods or Harmony: Ghostbloods he said he couldn't use allomancy to get back in time to help. Harmony he thought and talked about no longer having allomancy. It makes sense it would be harder to con a god associated to the magic system which makes me think it's worth considering. If anyone could it would be Kel. TLM shows its possible to: Hide things from a Shard, in this instance another Shard or God metal was involved. At the least it shows its possible, there could be other means? Use investiture from another Shard to fuel a different magic system. Makes me wonder if using unkeyed Dor to fuel allomancy would hide its use from Harmony? Rewrite past.. what if Kel used a soulstamp to rewrite his past to not being capable of allomancy. Yes, I understand there's timeframes and such involved but we don't know when he knew about this and when he lost or gained allomancy. There's a lot of information missing, but I'm thinking TLM gives us pieces of the puzzle to maybe figure it out.? Would a soulstamp be hidden from Harmony? A very clever one? If so, it would allow Kel to "lie" to Harmony. Not just lie, but also deceive via his thoughts. And as we know, Harmony can hear thoughts via Preservations power which I'm guessing Kel knows about. I could be wrong and I agree it's the less likely theory but.. that's what's making me think I'm onto something, Mr S throwing me curve balls all the time. So what do you think, is it possible for Kel to decieve Harmony in this way? Or is Harmony aware and playing his own game maybe? Is this another secret? Edited January 20, 2023 by Hoids Imaginary Friend
Ashbringer he/him Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 Harmony being able to partially read Kel's mind is a good point. He hasn't shown that for a while, but Kelsier was Preservation briefly. If anyone could hide, he probably would be it. There is a WoB about the Ghostbloods thinking Kel is still a Mistborn. It seemed to imply that he wasn't, but that wasn't the main point of the WoB. I don't think Kelsier would be able to use a Forgery, as gaining access to that power would be very difficult and his Mistborn-ness is... kinda important to his history. This ended up going the opposite direction I thought it would - I thought he'd have found a way to get Feruchemy as well as still being a Mistborn. (Although, my brain is wondering if his steelsight spike is granting Allomantic Steel (or Iron) or not... it's confusing.)
alder24 Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 WoB confirmes that Kel is lying to Ghostbloods Quote Sethcran When Kelsier said in The Lost Metal that he couldn't Steelpush over water, do the Ghostbloods think that Kelsier has his Allomantic powers, and is he lying to them about it? Brandon Sanderson Yes, they think he has Allomantic powers still. YouTube Spoiler Stream 5 (Dec. 2, 2022) Also Kel as a sliver is harder for Harmony to control via Hemalurgy, that also might apply to hearing and talking to him. Quote ChromiumVoodoopunk Does Kelsier being a Sliver make him more resistant to Harmony's control through Hemalurgy? Brandon Sanderson Yes. YouTube Spoiler Stream 3 (Dec. 16, 2021) Also also, why would Kel Soulstamp himself become without Allomancy? All he tries to do is to make invested arts common among people of Scadrial. This would be counterintuitive, as if he has that kind of Soulstamp, then they are just one step away for making Soulstamps granting Allomancy, and they have access to Dor to fuel it. This would also mean that Shai would know his is without powers while stamped, contradicting the WoB, but just a little bit. 3 hours ago, Ashbringer said: Although, my brain is wondering if his steelsight spike is granting Allomantic Steel (or Iron) or not... it's confusing. Interesting but I don't think this is the case. I think Kelsier learned how to see the world through the spike to replace his eye - it's more similar to how Awakened objects see Spoiler Moderator The question was, how do Awakened objects actually perceive the world. Brandon Sanderson …The closest correlation you have to this is how Inquisitors see. JordanCon 2016 (April 23, 2016) 1
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