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[Guest Ψιτιsτηε Βεsτ]

When would be a good place to start? 
 

In TLT

Edited September 4, 2023 by ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

Just now, ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ said:

When would be a good place to start? 
 

In TLT

I would, in general, want to get some of the ridiculousness into a good bit of the first part (excepting the prologue which should be dead serious to match some of the plot)

That depends on what the Narrative would be focused on. Who's the main villain? Who are the pov characters? If we want Feanor/Thaidakar to be the main character I suggest we start around the time where I have Spook and Mythos competing to become Thaidakar's heir which leads into the Temple of Plot. There would be a load of flashbacks, though, especially from Thaidakar's POV if we're going for that. The Witherlord would, of course, be involved in those flashbacks. I would want it to focus on the tragedy of Thaidakar's arc in this potential storyline. Subversion, Platypus and Spook would most likely be the main povs, with a few different ones from different people sprinkled in. And, perhaps, other main ones, but those are the ones that come to mind. 

If we're going for a Narrative of the fight against the Witherlord, I think it would vary greatly on which one and how Xino would want us to approach that. Though I would say that this one is a little less serious than the previous one since the Witherlord is far more of a Sauron than Thaidakar is. Thaidakar is more of a Moash mixed with Homelander, a far more complex character which gives more opportunity for moral questioning. 

(I think you can tell that I'm leaning towards wanting my own character as an enemy, but that's merely because they're mine so I know exactly how it could play out with them.)

There is also the opportunity to construct a completely new storyline taking place wherever and whenever we want. It all really depends on whatever we would want from the story.

[Guest Ψιτιsτηε Βεsτ]

Ok, I would say that we do more translating and less rewriting. I think it would be better to copy the plot mostly how it is written, we could keep the 100000+ povs and just make that the way the story is. We could change and organize the thread into an actual novel, or just make it a readable story in one place. I would be inclined to lean tworsa the first, by I would eagerly do whatever people would want to help with.

[Aeoryi she/her]

6 minutes ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

I would, in general, want to get some of the ridiculousness into a good bit of the first part (excepting the prologue which should be dead serious to match some of the plot)

That depends on what the Narrative would be focused on. Who's the main villain? Who are the pov characters? If we want Feanor/Thaidakar to be the main character I suggest we start around the time where I have Spook and Mythos competing to become Thaidakar's heir which leads into the Temple of Plot. There would be a load of flashbacks, though, especially from Thaidakar's POV if we're going for that. The Witherlord would, of course, be involved in those flashbacks. I would want it to focus on the tragedy of Thaidakar's arc in this potential storyline. Subversion, Platypus and Spook would most likely be the main povs, with a few different ones from different people sprinkled in. And, perhaps, other main ones, but those are the ones that come to mind. 

If we're going for a Narrative of the fight against the Witherlord, I think it would vary greatly on which one and how Xino would want us to approach that. Though I would say that this one is a little less serious than the previous one since the Witherlord is far more of a Sauron than Thaidakar is. Thaidakar is more of a Moash mixed with Homelander, a far more complex character which gives more opportunity for moral questioning. 

(I think you can tell that I'm leaning towards wanting my own character as an enemy, but that's merely because they're mine so I know exactly how it could play out with them.)

There is also the opportunity to construct a completely new storyline taking place wherever and whenever we want. It all really depends on whatever we would want from the story.

I still think Desolation would be an insane bad guy.

I would rather have a bunch of disjointed scenes against evil people and then have an ultimate final boss type evil person.

[Guest Ψιτιsτηε Βεsτ]

3 minutes ago, Aeoliae said:

I still think Desolation would be an insane bad guy.

Yes because you made him practically invinsable.

3 minutes ago, Aeoliae said:

I would rather have a bunch of disjointed scenes against evil people and then have an ultimate final boss type evil person.

I agree this is the way TLT is. Who knows, it could go in for years even after Feanor dies.

[SmilingPanda19 Any!]

I don’t know a lot about TLT and I temporarily played a very very minor character, but I would be willing to help throw something together possibly in my free time.

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

10 minutes ago, ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ said:

Ok, I would say that we do more translating and less rewriting. I think it would be better to copy the plot mostly how it is written, we could keep the 100000+ povs and just make that the way the story is. We could change and organize the thread into an actual novel, or just make it a readable story in one place. I would be inclined to lean tworsa the first, by I would eagerly do whatever people would want to help with.

6 minutes ago, Aeoliae said:

I still think Desolation would be an insane bad guy.

I would rather have a bunch of disjointed scenes against evil people and then have an ultimate final boss type evil person.

1 minute ago, ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ said:

Yes because you made him practically invinsable.

I agree this is the way TLT is. Who knows, it could go in for years even after Feanor dies.

My only thing is that do we want it to be a novel or do we want it to be a never ending story about loads of characters that are all having perspectives and doing all sorts of crazy stuff OR do we want to consolidate into different POVs for different segments, like how, say, the Percy Jackson: Heroes of Olympus novels do it. They have like, say, 4 or 5 POVs for most of those books who are present for most of the events of said novel. Then it changes for the next one and so on. I myself would prefer a cohesive story that is focused on one specific plot that isn't just randomness, even if that's what TLT is. I would much like something that takes what we have in TLT and transform it into a story that people who know nothing about TLT can enjoy, and so that even those who are familiar with it would like to read without being confused at every twist and turn. It would need a lot of rewriting to make it work together anyways. An Alcatraz vs the Evil Librarians combined with The Stormlight Archive approach would be something I would want. It's Stormlight with Alcatraz here and there. 

If it were to be a true adaptation of TLT, a tv show, a graphic novel or just a large series of short stories would work faaaaar better. It's that serialization which would, I think, work best to tell TLT as it is. I do think that a more serious approach, though still with the randomness and funny moments, would be better over all to tell a cohesive (there's that word again) story. I would want to see something that is complete and has a good ending with good characters and with a good explanation for everything. 

It would be a lot more work to do what I'm suggesting, but that's what writing is anyways. 

However, I think I need to clarify what I'm saying here: I'm not saying we remove a lot, I'm saying we take what we have and adjust it slightly, omitting a few things to make the story flow and adding things to give more clarity and make it a better read altogether. 

Just now, SmilingPanda19 said:

I don’t know a lot about TLT and I temporarily played a very very minor character, but I would be willing to help throw something together possibly in my free time.

It would be awesome if we ever do this to see you helping out, Panda!

[Immortal Platypus]

1 hour ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

If we did wind up doing it, I have a list of people who would need to be involved. Xino and Nameless definitely, I would want to be involved most definitely. Seeing it as TLT would help me blast writing. Cacophony definitely should be one of the people who does some of the main writing. But we would also want to get the permissions of a lot of the people involved in the actual thread. I honestly think TLT, if turned into some form of media, would work best as a tv show or a series of short stories that start out as complete randomness and slowly evolves into what it is today.

Yay! I've gotten to the status of "important!"

39 minutes ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

Here's how I would be involved if this ever happened: I would love to write chapters here and there especially to do with my characters. I want to help with an outline and be there to talk about it and organize it. I would want to be one of the main people figuring it out, if not the main one writing. I want to be, if this would happen, the producer and director. Not the screenwriter for most of it. I can do touch ups here and there, writing scenes when necessary and just when I'm hyped. I would love to set it up and keep it organized though.

Yeah, I couldn't do much writing, and I wouldn't have much time for it anyway. I could do my scenes with some foreshadowing, but not too much more.

 

I don't know if people really understand how massive of a project this is. If we were to try to make it into a legible book, that would take insane effort. We'd need to show how certain things were achieved, and so much stuff. I think a series of short stories is the only for this to work out. Each plotline is a story.

1 minute ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

I would want to see something that is complete and has a good ending with good characters and with a good explanation for everything. 

I don't know how well that would work because TLT often doesn't have a good explanation. 

Edited September 4, 2023 by Being of Cacophony

[Guest Ψιτιsτηε Βεsτ]

6 minutes ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

My only thing is that do we want it to be a novel or do we want it to be a never ending story about loads of characters that are all having perspectives and doing all sorts of crazy stuff OR do we want to consolidate into different POVs for different segments, like how, say, the Percy Jackson: Heroes of Olympus novels do it. They have like, say, 4 or 5 POVs for most of those books who are present for most of the events of said novel. Then it changes for the next one and so on. I myself would prefer a cohesive story that is focused on one specific plot that isn't just randomness, even if that's what TLT is. I would much like something that takes what we have in TLT and transform it into a story that people who know nothing about TLT can enjoy, and so that even those who are familiar with it would like to read without being confused at every twist and turn. It would need a lot of rewriting to make it work together anyways. An Alcatraz vs the Evil Librarians combined with The Stormlight Archive approach would be something I would want. It's Stormlight with Alcatraz here and there. 

If it were to be a true adaptation of TLT, a tv show, a graphic novel or just a large series of short stories would work faaaaar better. It's that serialization which would, I think, work best to tell TLT as it is. I do think that a more serious approach, though still with the randomness and funny moments, would be better over all to tell a cohesive (there's that word again) story. I would want to see something that is complete and has a good ending with good characters and with a good explanation for everything. 

It would be a lot more work to do what I'm suggesting, but that's what writing is anyways. 

However, I think I need to clarify what I'm saying here: I'm not saying we remove a lot, I'm saying we take what we have and adjust it slightly, omitting a few things to make the story flow and adding things to give more clarity and make it a better read altogether. 

It would be awesome if we ever do this to see you helping out, Panda!

Yes. TLT would be better a more developed story. I also like the idea of it being a series of short stories that build off one another. But, like coco phony said, that is a lot. I don’t know if that is even feasible. Bug I would stilll be up to trying. If we got a large group of people that would participate in small amounts, with editors to make sure it makes sense, I think we could. And I would be up to try.

[Aeoryi she/her]

21 minutes ago, ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ said:

Yes. TLT would be better a more developed story. I also like the idea of it being a series of short stories that build off one another. But, like coco phony said, that is a lot. I don’t know if that is even feasible. Bug I would stilll be up to trying. If we got a large group of people that would participate in small amounts, with editors to make sure it makes sense, I think we could. And I would be up to try.

I mean it would be cool though

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

1 hour ago, Being of Cacophony said:

Yay! I've gotten to the status of "important!"

Yeah, I couldn't do much writing, and I wouldn't have much time for it anyway. I could do my scenes with some foreshadowing, but not too much more.

 

Of course you're important! Platypus is a great character that should be in it more!

1 hour ago, Being of Cacophony said:

I don't know if people really understand how massive of a project this is. If we were to try to make it into a legible book, that would take insane effort. We'd need to show how certain things were achieved, and so much stuff. I think a series of short stories is the only for this to work out. Each plotline is a story.

I don't know how well that would work because TLT often doesn't have a good explanation. 

1 hour ago, ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ said:

Yes. TLT would be better a more developed story. I also like the idea of it being a series of short stories that build off one another. But, like coco phony said, that is a lot. I don’t know if that is even feasible. Bug I would stilll be up to trying. If we got a large group of people that would participate in small amounts, with editors to make sure it makes sense, I think we could. And I would be up to try.

A long series of short stories would be epic if we had an idea for how the plot would go. Big bads can work in like arcs of, say, five short stories each. Like, Feanor would only come later once Thaidakar is developed as a character.

What we would need is an idea for what we'd want and assign different parts and chapters to different people .We would also need to familiarize different people with different characters in an intimate fashion, such as how they act. This would be very difficult with a large cast, which is why I suggested a smaller, more focused, set of characters. 

I think it's possible, but I don't know if we can feasibly achieve more than one story. It would be a gargantuan effort to make one arc, let alone several. If each book is 200-500 pages long, each five books (an arc as I'm suggesting) would be 1,000-25,000 pages long. That's a lot of writing. It would be the undertaking of a life time. 

Don't get me wrong, making a novel or two based off of TLT would be a load of fun. But only if it's super focused and concise. I, for example, can see writing a novel at about 400-800 pages in length about the Feanor arc as a possible thing that can happen if I really wanted it to. But there's the issue of I have other projects that I've already started and have less lore than TLT. TLT is a 2,000 pages and a half thread with loads and loads of lore, even more characters and a complex plot weaving that would take at least 6 months to figure out and decide what could be made into a book and what couldn't be.

What I'm saying is that, while it would be fun, it isn't as easy as some would think. There's so much, as y'all are saying, that would make it hard to adapt. It isn't the type of project that I really want to be doing, especially when my own novel is just starting to get its footing in writing.

42 minutes ago, Aeoliae said:

I mean it would be cool though

It would be! It would just take soooo loooong to get to the point where we have enough of it written down in a way that readers can digest it without feeling overwhelmed and confused.

[Guest Ψιτιsτηε Βεsτ]

That is the ideal. Would it be practical to just do what is easily feasible?

like just generally copying and pasting to one coherent and collective document

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

3 minutes ago, ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ said:

That is the ideal. Would it be practical to just do what is easily feasible?

like just generally copying and pasting to one coherent and collective document

If that's a genuine question, my answer will be a definite no. Taking what we have, even if it's a nice narrative as it is, won't just become a novel. The style is sooo different. The Narrative voice is odd and, I just realized, we'd have to figure out how to make the Authors work with it all and explain certain things, or just remove specific terms and creatures for continuity's sake.

[NameIess]

Obviously the best way to turn TLT into a story is to have everyone on TLT write independently, from the perspective of their characters.

[Scars of Hathsin he/him]

Turning it into a story would be cool, or we could make kind of like a branch off, using things, and characters from TLT (Which I think would be easier), but giving a whole new storyline, including the things such as plotblades, narrators... etc.

Edited September 5, 2023 by Scars of Hathsin

[Guest Ψιτιsτηε Βεsτ]

11 minutes ago, Nameless* said:

Obviously the best way to turn TLT into a story is to have everyone on TLT write independently, from the perspective of their characters.

Would you be up for writing your entire characters story?

9 minutes ago, Scars of Hathsin said:

Turning it into a story would be cool, or we could make kind of like a branch off, using things, and characters from TLT (Which I think would be easier), but giving a whole new storyline, including the things such as plotblades, narrators... etc.

from here we go back to the it would take forever thing though. It would be awesome though

[NameIess]

Just now, ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ said:

Would you be up for writing your entire characters story?

Uh..... maybe?

[Scars of Hathsin he/him]

6 minutes ago, ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ said:

Would you be up for writing your entire characters story?

Probably but I have not been on for long... unlike others...

[Guest Ψιτιsτηε Βεsτ]

I don’t know. Just an idea that many people I’m sure have had. Anyway, Anykne got any TLT memes?

[Aeoryi she/her]

9 minutes ago, ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ said:

Would you be up for writing your entire characters story?

from here we go back to the it would take forever thing though. It would be awesome though

Of course I would but Rirrom appears a total of 2 times.

[Immortal Platypus]

2 hours ago, Nameless* said:

Uh..... maybe?

remember, you have like 3 prominent characters.

2 hours ago, Scars of Hathsin said:

Probably but I have not been on for long... unlike others...

Yeah, people like Nameless and Thaid would struggle a lot more than most. I would struggle and I've been on for maybe 1/4 as long as them.

[NameIess]

4 minutes ago, Being of Cacophony said:

remember, you have like 3 prominent characters.

4 that I'd define as main characters: Nameless, Moni, Unintelligible, and Subversion. Nameless' career started way back at page 881 with the first and second candy wars, so that's more than 1500 pages of content to go through and turn into a more coherent story.

[Aeoryi she/her]

4 minutes ago, Nameless* said:

4 that I'd define as main characters: Nameless, Moni, Unintelligible, and Subversion. Nameless' career started way back at page 881 with the first and second candy wars, so that's more than 1500 pages of content to go through and turn into a more coherent story.

We would only snip a certain segment

[Immortal Platypus]

27 minutes ago, Nameless* said:

4 that I'd define as main characters: Nameless, Moni, Unintelligible, and Subversion. Nameless' career started way back at page 881 with the first and second candy wars, so that's more than 1500 pages of content to go through and turn into a more coherent story.

I wasn't counting Nameless as he isn't currently someone that is a main character, just referenced pretty often

[NameIess]

52 minutes ago, Being of Cacophony said:

I wasn't counting Nameless as he isn't currently someone that is a main character, just referenced pretty often

He may not currently be a main character, but he is the single most important character in my TLT history, and if I was going to story-ify TLT I would start from the beginning of his story.