Rg2045 Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 So I came up with this theory when reading WoB and he talked about the afterlife in the cosmere When he basically said that he will neither confirm nor deny the existence of one so as to not discredit his characters views. I then remembered the one chapter in The Way of Kings of the cobbler who bonded a spren and was killed by Nale. He talked about a god who allowed himself to shatter and splinter into everything to have more experiences. Perhaps the true rejoining of everyone and everything is when everything dies. Similar to the egg theory that some people believe. this would also explain why shadows in the CR go towards the “sun” instead of away. It’s being pulled to the beyond to rejoin with adonalsium also a couple of “assumptions” (or counter arguments) I Have if this theory is true. what happened to “people” when they died before the shattering? -rather nonexistence or they merged with adonalsium why would he have to “die” if the process already happened? -for more diversity. Perhaps he got bored with himself being the only “god” Wouldn’t adonalsium be a cognitive shadow? -we don’t know how adonalsium CS would work, if it’ll work how we seen them in book or if it’ll work in a different way due to how much unimaginable power they held.
NameIess Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rg2045 said: So I came up with this theory when reading WoB and he talked about the afterlife in the cosmere When he basically said that he will neither confirm nor deny the existence of one so as to not discredit his characters views. I then remembered the one chapter in The Way of Kings of the cobbler who bonded a spren and was killed by Nale. He talked about a god who allowed himself to shatter and splinter into everything to have more experiences. Perhaps the true rejoining of everyone and everything is when everything dies. Similar to the egg theory that some people believe. this would also explain why shadows in the CR go towards the “sun” instead of away. It’s being pulled to the beyond to rejoin with adonalsium also a couple of “assumptions” (or counter arguments) I Have if this theory is true. what happened to “people” when they died before the shattering? -rather nonexistence or they merged with adonalsium why would he have to “die” if the process already happened? -for more diversity. Perhaps he got bored with himself being the only “god” Wouldn’t adonalsium be a cognitive shadow? -we don’t know how adonalsium CS would work, if it’ll work how we seen them in book or if it’ll work in a different way due to how much unimaginable power they held. I don't think this will be the case, simply because I think we'll eventually get answers about Adonalsium. Since we're not going to get answers about the Beyond, Adonalsium can't be the Beyond. 5
Rg2045 Posted March 31, 2022 Author Posted March 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, Nameless said: I don't think this will be the case, simply because I think we'll eventually get answers about Adonalsium. Since we're not going to get answers about the Beyond, Adonalsium can't be the Beyond. That’s good reasoning, no matter how “meta” it is
Letryx13 Posted April 2, 2022 Posted April 2, 2022 I think Adolnalsium is still alive. I've thought so since Rayse's words when Dalinar spoke his third ideal. "No, we killed you." He's clearly horrified by whatever he saw, and that must mean he's referring to another shard or something even greater. But the fact that he said "we" means it wasn't someone he killed on his own. Honor is the only shard Dalinar has a direct connection with, but as far as we know, Odium killed Honor himself, so that doesn't make sense. The possibility that makes the most sense to me is Adolnalsium. 2
Olmund Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 On 4/2/2022 at 6:40 AM, Letryx13 said: I think Adolnalsium is still alive. I've thought so since Rayse's words when Dalinar spoke his third ideal. "No, we killed you." He's clearly horrified by whatever he saw, and that must mean he's referring to another shard or something even greater. But the fact that he said "we" means it wasn't someone he killed on his own. Honor is the only shard Dalinar has a direct connection with, but as far as we know, Odium killed Honor himself, so that doesn't make sense. The possibility that makes the most sense to me is Adolnalsium. I agree that he's most likely referring to Adonalsium here, but I don't see how that would indicate that Adonalsium is still alive. Rayse gave the classic "murderer sees ghost of someone he killed" line -- meaning that although in that moment Dalinar seems to resemble (probably through spiritual connection) someone Rayse (and others) killed, that doesn't change the fact that Rayse did, in fact, kill that person (or being).
Letryx13 Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Olmund said: I agree that he's most likely referring to Adonalsium here, but I don't see how that would indicate that Adonalsium is still alive. Rayse gave the classic "murderer sees ghost of someone he killed" line -- meaning that although in that moment Dalinar seems to resemble (probably through spiritual connection) someone Rayse (and others) killed, that doesn't change the fact that Rayse did, in fact, kill that person (or being). A sound argument. I suppose it's possible Adonalsium is "dead" but not in a way that we would consider typical, even among the shards. Maybe he's able to influence things, even while in the beyond of the spiritual realm. I guess what I think is that whatever state he's in, it's not something that's so far gone that he couldn't be revived. Part of the reason I hold to this theory, is because that's what I think Hoid is trying to do.
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