Trusk'our he/him Posted January 17, 2022 Posted January 17, 2022 Apparently, Hoid is now stuck on Roshar due to his Bond with Design. But if he is a Feruchemist, he could overcome this by storing his Lightweaving and Soulcasting abilities inside a nicrosil metalmind, then compounding those powers, which would replace Honor’s investiture with Preservation’s, thus allowing him to leave. Well, that and he’d also need to break his Bond with Design, but that would be comparatively simple (if somewhat selfish and traitorous). 1
KaladinWorldsinger Posted January 17, 2022 Posted January 17, 2022 Could he put design in a metalmind? Cuz I kinda want design to be alive.
Trusk'our he/him Posted January 17, 2022 Author Posted January 17, 2022 1 minute ago, KaladinWorldsinger said: Could he put design in a metalmind? Cuz I kinda want design to be alive. A radiant can break the Bond with their spren without killing them. They'd just need to return to Shadesmare or Bond someone else. It would be pretty cool if you could put spren in Metalminds though
Bort he/him Posted January 17, 2022 Posted January 17, 2022 You can take Spren offworld... WoB: Quote FirstSelector So if I'm a Surgebinder, I have my own Cognitive entity with me. Can I go off-world with that and will everything continue to work in exactly the same way? Because we've seen Cognitive entities that don't-- Brandon Sanderson So taking a Cognitive entity off-world is hard. So, Surgebinding, if you can find out how to make it happen, remember, the Investiture is keyed to Connection. This is why Kelsier is-- Oh, sorry, spoilers! When a certain somebody *laughter* had trouble getting off Scadrial, because he basically was a spren by that point so--*laughter* ...So, yeah Surgebinding would work off planet, but you'd have to get the spren off-planet first. That's hard to do. Cosmere-wide it's not hard hard but it is-- You'd have to know some stuff. You could learn how.
Trusk'our he/him Posted January 17, 2022 Author Posted January 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Bort said: You can take Spren offworld... WoB: I couldn't find the quote again, but it said that Hoid, specifically, was bound to Roshar by his Bond to Design. I'll look some more when I have the opportunity.
CryoZenith he/him Posted January 17, 2022 Posted January 17, 2022 It's this one. Quote Questioner (paraphrased) Now that Hoid has bonded a spren, is he locked on Roshar? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) Yes, that is a problem. Something will happen that is relevant. RAFO. Stuttgart signing (May 17, 2019) So, basically, it IS possible to bring a spren offworld, and Hoid CAN leave Roshar without abandoning Design, but, chronologically speaking, at the time of the events of Rhythm of War, Hoid has no idea how to do this. 4
Trusk'our he/him Posted January 17, 2022 Author Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, CryoZenith said: It's this one. So, basically, it IS possible to bring a spren offworld, and Hoid CAN leave Roshar without abandoning Design, but, chronologically speaking, at the time of the events of Rhythm of War, Hoid has no idea how to do this. Thank you for finding it for me! Not going to lie, I spent over forty minutes trying to find it unsuccessfully.
RAFOmancer she/her Posted September 2, 2022 Posted September 2, 2022 I mean,if Mraize has an Invested Aviar,that means he had to take it off it's native planet first,right? So it can be done.The Ghostbloods have figured it out I think.....But that means Hoid's rival know's how to do it.Bad luck for Hoid.....
Stormtide_Leviathan Posted September 2, 2022 Posted September 2, 2022 2 hours ago, RAFOmancer said: I mean,if Mraize has an Invested Aviar,that means he had to take it off it's native planet first,right? So it can be done.The Ghostbloods have figured it out I think.....But that means Hoid's rival know's how to do it.Bad luck for Hoid..... I don't think aviar are as "sticky" for lack of a better word as spren. We know that seons are less sticky for some reason so not all cognitive entities are created equal, and aviar aren't even cognitive entities, they're physical. So they should have leeway to move wherever. (WOB on seons being less "sticky") Quote Weiry Writer Why are Seons stuck as floating balls of light in the Cognitive Realm, while true spren get to be people shaped? I feel that is unfair. Brandon Sanderson That is a little unfair isn't it. Boy, Sel has all sorts of unfair things going on. But they can leave Sel, so there's some sort of clue there. But lots of unfairness to everybody from Sel in various ways. But the thing that is not unfair is: they're able to get places. Chaos Just gotta escape the deadly plasma, you know. No big deal. Brandon Sanderson If they can escape the deadly Investiture plasma covering the Cognitive Realm... not even covering, like... suffusing the Cognitive Realm where they are, the Expanse of Densities. If they can escape that they can go places. I'll be honest. I couldn't decided if I should use a seon there at the end or a Tamu Kek. In one draft it was a Tamu Kek, and then I thought, "Eh, seons are way more interesting because they have volition. Tamu Kek is just a bone." It was a Tamu Kek originally, and then it was a seon, then back to a Tamu Kek, and then I released it as a seon. Shardcast Interview (Jan. 23, 2021) 1
RAFOmancer she/her Posted September 6, 2022 Posted September 6, 2022 On 9/2/2022 at 7:08 PM, Stormtide_Leviathan said: I don't think aviar are as "sticky" for lack of a better word as spren. We know that seons are less sticky for some reason so not all cognitive entities are created equal, and aviar aren't even cognitive entities, they're physical. So they should have leeway to move wherever. I meant their Spoiler parasites. If they are less sticky then they can go wherever they are taken.
Yumiya Posted September 6, 2022 Posted September 6, 2022 Well, Spoiler we do know that Hoid and Design get off world, just not how... Ans in such a way that Design is at least fully functional. 1
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