Anniversary Game 8 / AN11: Back to Beginnings

[Quartz Zebra]

Just now, Azure Mouse said:

You sent me a message and instantly asked for a role claim. What did you want me to do? (Besides claim, of course. That would be silly to someone I've had no interaction with)

1. me conf vil

2. then respond saying that

[Fuchsia Ostrich]

I'm removing Axl from my brain now because I feel like I'm a type of a footwear (keeping Iguana's spirit strong here guys)

Dragonfly - 

Good - Voted Beagle to make it 3-3

Bad - Rioter (but rolelynching bad etc etc)

Mouse - 

Good - Important vote (3rd?) on Cham in D4?

Bad - Weird vote on iguana, mentioning of e! Coinshot, presence in null (-) section of Hyena's reads

Dingo - 

Good - ???

Bad - re: Penguins's post 

Elephant - 

Good - ???

Bad - Filter dodging? 

[Violet Axolotl]

11 minutes ago, Azure Mouse said:

You sent me a message and instantly asked for a role claim. What did you want me to do? (Besides claim, of course. That would be silly to someone I've had no interaction with)

I still hold that everyone should claim publicly. We don’t need roles to win at this point, given that Zebra is going to die in the night anyway. And knowing the whole distribution (or at worst missing 2 elim roles) should be a lot more help than any costs, particularly since we probably don’t have any Thugs or Seekers.

Edited January 26, 2022 by Violet Axolotl

[Plum Rhinoceros]

2 minutes ago, Violet Axolotl said:

I still hold that everyone should claim publicly. We don’t need roles to win at this point, given that Zebra is going to die in the night anyway. And knowing the whole district (or at worst missing 2 elim roles) should be a lot more help than any costs, particularly since we probably don’t have any Thugs or Seekers.

I disagree. Claiming in thread will just tell the elims who the more powerful villagers are so they can take them out first. 

On the other hand, I think everyone should claim to penguin because we know he's villager. 

EDIT: plus, leaving the elims in the dark about how many powerful roles are left may cause them to make some more risky plays that in the end help us. 

Edited January 26, 2022 by Plum Rhinoceros

[Violet Axolotl]

18 minutes ago, Plum Rhinoceros said:

I disagree. Claiming in thread will just tell the elims who the more powerful villagers are so they can take them out first. 

On the other hand, I think everyone should claim to penguin because we know he's villager. 

EDIT: plus, leaving the elims in the dark about how many powerful roles are left may cause them to make some more risky plays that in the end help us. 

I mean, I probably have one of the more powerful roles. Like I mentioned, the elims pretty much have to hit Zebra tonight. If we have no Thug, no Seeker, and no Coinshot, what role is particularly bad to lose whenever the elims get around to it?

Edit: Knowing the role distribution could help us avoid getting to the end where risky plays would do something, because we'd win before then.

Edited January 26, 2022 by Violet Axolotl

[Chartreuse Penguin]

30 minutes ago, Violet Axolotl said:

since we probably don’t have any Thugs

lemme just tie the votes there real quick

Azure Mouse(3): Onyx Flamingo, Ivory Dragonfly, Quartz Zebra
Ivory Dragonfly(1): Azure Mouse
Melon Dingo(3): Violet Axolotl, Fuchsia Ostrich, Chartreuse Penguin
Violet Axolotl(1): Plum Rhinoceros

Melon Dingo

Alright everyone if I try to change my vote one more time this cycle, someone please slap me

edit: for the record I am against mass-claiming. But if anyone wants to reveal their role, I can't stop you

Edited January 26, 2022 by Chartreuse Penguin

[Violet Axolotl]

12 minutes ago, Chartreuse Penguin said:

lemme just tie the votes there real quick

Azure Mouse(3): Onyx Flamingo, Ivory Dragonfly, Quartz Zebra
Ivory Dragonfly(1): Azure Mouse
Melon Dingo(3): Violet Axolotl, Fuchsia Ostrich, Chartreuse Penguin
Violet Axolotl(1): Plum Rhinoceros

Melon Dingo

Alright everyone if I try to change my vote one more time this cycle, someone please slap me

edit: for the record I am against mass-claiming. But if anyone wants to reveal their role, I can't stop you

I actually did forget about your role for a second while writing that post, but since your Thugliness is public, you don't really count. 

[Onyx Flamingo]

1 hour ago, Chartreuse Penguin said:

how do you feel about switching to Dingo? Do you find Mouse more suspicious or equally?

My thoughts on dingo are confused. Why would an elim try so hard to stand out? But at the same time what if it’s the perfect disguise? Hiding in plain sight? I’m In a thought loop. I guess i would say I find them equally sus, and non intervention is alarming after so many cycles we hit elims

[Quartz Zebra]

aright, someone remind me, what people's roles are public knowlege atm

i wanna make a chart

[Chartreuse Penguin]

2 minutes ago, Onyx Flamingo said:

Why would an elim try so hard to stand out?

Crazy thing is, Dingo was flying absolutely under the radar until the past 3 cycles or so, at least for me. They didn't begin to stand out until we started cutting down the elims.

5 minutes ago, Quartz Zebra said:

aright, someone remind me, what people's roles are public knowlege atm

i wanna make a chart

Alb - thug
Penguin - thug
Axolotl - Rioter
Dragonfly - Rioter

I think these should be all of em

[Fuchsia Ostrich]

Rhino - Thug too 

8 minutes ago, Onyx Flamingo said:

My thoughts on dingo are confused. Why would an elim try so hard to stand out? But at the same time what if it’s the perfect disguise? Hiding in plain sight? I’m In a thought loop. I guess i would say I find them equally sus, and non intervention is alarming after so many cycles we hit elims

A very good lesson someone taught me when I was beginning SE is if someone is NAI/Null even at the latter stages/endgame , then they're not NAI, they're to be seen as evil. 

[Melon Dingo]

Scimon Tlag had pause. Three choices. Four, technically. But not very many in total. The Mouse, the Axolotl - also known as Dyring - and himself.

Well, he didn't have much to say in his own defense. Neither did Mouse. Dyring was well liked by people in town, and that choice disappeared quite quickly. Tlag was a face in town that no one could really recognize. Mouse simply had no face. 

He could start to act. Drop his face. Pack up the cart, stop trying to treat everything like a business transaction, channel that small piece of him that acted out of generosity. But, that was against the point, was it not? The point he was, unconsiously or not, trying to make. Why he stood out for being the only one to act like there was a village still standing, and not a group of people standing in a circle throwing hatchets until someone told them to stop. 

Well, he wasn't the only one. Jerrien was there, although he was new. Dyring was there, although he didn't seem to like Tlag much. Quartz was there, but they stood in the circle, occasionally dropping their hand to grab a flask without dropping eye contact. Besides that... there wasn't much. 

So no, Scimon Tlag would not drop his face. He liked it too much. As for the apathy... it wasn't really his choice anymore, was it?

It was an unfortunate day for this to happen, as he'd wanted to try to help. But unfortunate days were all the more common these days, and he couldn't let that get in the way. There are things worse than death, and at some point asking for mercy sounds like asking for pity. So Scimon Tlag would work with the hand he'd been dealt, the hand he'd partially dealt himself. He'd speak against Mouse if he needed to. He don't know if he would, but he had to guess. As for the rest, there were no open questions for him to answer. But Scimon Tlag would stay and he would stay in those open.

It had been a long day.

[Fuchsia Ostrich]

For the record, I believe new Mouse has tried to be authentic. They were very forthcoming (noted the days of messages from Cham) and tried to explain the actions of their predecessor as best as they can. I don't believe Mouse 1.0 needed to come out of hiding to make themselves visible with that vote on Iguana. As well as add to the vote on Cham when Cham was very much in danger. 

@Azure Mouse, you might want to vote in self preservation. 

 

[Chartreuse Penguin]

7 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said:

Scimon Tlag had pause. Three choices. Four, technically. But not very many in total. The Mouse, the Axolotl - also known as Dyring - and himself.

Well, he didn't have much to say in his own defense. Neither did Mouse. Dyring was well liked by people in town, and that choice disappeared quite quickly. Tlag was a face in town that no one could really recognize. Mouse simply had no face. 

He could start to act. Drop his face. Pack up the cart, stop trying to treat everything like a business transaction, channel that small piece of him that acted out of generosity. But, that was against the point, was it not? The point he was, unconsiously or not, trying to make. Why he stood out for being the only one to act like there was a village still standing, and not a group of people standing in a circle throwing hatchets until someone told them to stop. 

Well, he wasn't the only one. Jerrien was there, although he was new. Dyring was there, although he didn't seem to like Tlag much. Quartz was there, but they stood in the circle, occasionally dropping their hand to grab a flask without dropping eye contact. Besides that... there wasn't much. 

So no, Scimon Tlag would not drop his face. He liked it too much. As for the apathy... it wasn't really his choice anymore, was it?

It was an unfortunate day for this to happen, as he'd wanted to try to help. But unfortunate days were all the more common these days, and he couldn't let that get in the way. There are things worse than death, and at some point asking for mercy sounds like asking for pity. So Scimon Tlag would work with the hand he'd been dealt, the hand he'd partially dealt himself. He'd speak against Mouse if he needed to. He don't know if he would, but he had to guess. As for the rest, there were no open questions for him to answer. But Scimon Tlag would stay and he would stay in those open.

It had been a long day.

Your dedication to RPing even in the face of death is admirable  Truly

I’d like to point out, however, that you’ve spoken OOC on three separate occasions all during D1  All iirc most of them were on the topic of role distros. I am by no means trying to force you out of your RP though, so please, continue  I will admit it is fun reading them. 

4 minutes ago, Fuchsia Ostrich said:

They were very forthcoming (noted the days of messages from Cham) and tried to explain the actions of their predecessor as best as they can. I

ngl that’s one big reason I’m not voting mouse today 

[Melon Dingo]

Scimon smiled at Chartreuse. They still seemed... it was strange, he'd thought he'd connect stronger to others. It wasn't connecting to Aethex, but it was something.

"Let's just say I made several decisions when several things changed. When Su died, when I... learned there was more to life than selling and buying. Or at least selling and buying material things. I still haven't figured that out. But I think I've figured out that I'm willing to be here and figure it out."

His face darkened. "And... the other Mistborn. The Spiked one. That mess... let's just say it brought up a few memories in ways I hadn't liked."

He smiled again. "But that's neither here nor there. I don't mean to hide, and I don't want to just sit and be apathy, and I don't want my complications being excuses for what I should be changing," he said. Little emotions. Let it grow. "I don't know if I can change that right now, but it's been too long of saying, so here I am trying."

"Perhaps we should make it official, eh? Azure Mouse?"

No, that wasn't it.

"Maybe not. That's a jump. Maybe I can find something to step it off, but I doubt it. I'm a Dingo, not a parrot. Part of the problem."

"Praise the Ja!"

[Magenta Albatross]

Sorry I haven't been active in thread a lot, I just forgot how long an almost 30 player game with 3 day cycles takes and it's been more of a time commitment than I anticipated. Still been keeping up with things but hard to get reads. I'm gonna go with Azure Mouse just on a gut read between them and Dingo.

[Fuchsia Ostrich]

Alb, m8 c'mon I just gave reasons why Azure's probably village. What has Dingo done at all through the entire game that warrants their survival at this stage? 

@Magenta Albatross

Edited January 26, 2022 by Fuchsia Ostrich

[Chartreuse Penguin]

9 minutes ago, Magenta Albatross said:

Sorry I haven't been active in thread a lot, I just forgot how long an almost 30 player game with 3 day cycles takes and it's been more of a time commitment than I anticipated. Still been keeping up with things but hard to get reads. I'm gonna go with Azure Mouse just on a gut read between them and Dingo.

Edit: sorry on mobile posted x3 for some reason

but

but

why ;-;

[Fuchsia Ostrich]

Kinda wanna ask this to all non-Dingo voters here - 

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What has Dingo done at all through the entire game that warrants their survival at this stage? 

Hmmm?

Edit: Reiterating this is NOT a rhetorical question. Even Dingo's replies this cycle have been ???? Riddle me this, why does Dingo warrant survival? 

Edited January 26, 2022 by Fuchsia Ostrich

[Onyx Flamingo]

14 minutes ago, Fuchsia Ostrich said:

Kinda wanna ask this to all non-Dingo voters here - 

Hmmm?

I could ask the same question about mouse, but I’m not wholly opposed to voting on dingo. It’s more of a better of two evils. Eviler of two evils? Idk. Anyway, I’m in a break between classes and can read more of the thread

[Fuchsia Ostrich]

1 minute ago, Onyx Flamingo said:

I could ask the same question about mouse, but I’m not wholly opposed to voting on dingo. It’s more of a better of two evils. Eviler of two evils? Idk. Anyway, I’m in a break between classes and can read more of the thread

I did make a case for all the good things Mouse has done, or things that can be seen as villagery - here 

https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/105122-ag8an11-day-eight-jaists-are-our-specialty/?do=findComment&comment=1297959

Vote on Cham being the strongest point actually. Their vote came at a pivotal moment and what separated Cham from the pack. 

[Plum Rhinoceros]

Preemptive vote on Dingo. I would rather vote axolotl, but dingo is better than mouse. We get literally next to no information from a mouse lynch about possible other teamates.

Also it's much harder to do analysis when it's RP lol. I dunno if I'll get through it all. Vote is going off of penguin's post currently.

[Chartreuse Penguin]

5 minutes ago, Onyx Flamingo said:

I could ask the same question about mouse

IMO it's their justification for past!mouse's iguana vote + the attention to detail there xD if mouse is evil I'll have to say im impressed by mouse2.0 using such a tactic  

[Onyx Flamingo]

Yeah see it doesn't take too much to convince me haha, but mouse isn't off the hook. Mouse Dingo.

I just honestly can't say that my suspicions of mouse outweigh the reasons for voting dingo, and thus will be moving my vote.

[Violet Axolotl]

23 minutes ago, Plum Rhinoceros said:

I would rather vote axolotl

Can you explain why? I feel like I addressed pretty much everything you mentioned in your ISO of me, and you never responded to my defense.