Plum Rhinoceros Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, Onyx Flamingo said: the coinshot is dead do we know that there isn't another coinshot (yes, unlikely I know) or another mistborn that could have rolled coinshot?
Onyx Flamingo Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, Plum Rhinoceros said: do we know that there isn't another coinshot (yes, unlikely I know) or another mistborn that could have rolled coinshot? well, actually, no, BUT the kills are differentiated
Plum Rhinoceros Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Onyx Flamingo said: well, actually, no, BUT the kills are differentiated not quite sure, but are you just saying you think there isn't one because they didn't specify the type?
Onyx Flamingo Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: not quite sure, but are you just saying you think there isn't one because they didn't specify the type? sorry i should be clearer lol, my brain is fried from studying Beethoven all night. Anyway, I think the NK was specifically a spiked because it was in the write up that it was spiked, and also in the past it has been differentiated between coinshot and spiked. There's a possibility we'll have a mistborn left that rolls coinshot but i don't think it happened last night.
Plum Rhinoceros Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Onyx Flamingo said: sorry i should be clearer lol, my brain is fried from studying Beethoven all night. Anyway, I think the NK was specifically a spiked because it was in the write up that it was spiked, and also in the past it has been differentiated between coinshot and spiked. There's a possibility we'll have a mistborn left that rolls coinshot but i don't think it happened last night. that's fine lol. I also think it's unlikely that it's a coinshot, but just want to make sure.
Fifth Scholar he/him Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: I looked back at previous threads, and aren't we supposed to know whether Zebra was attacked by a coinshot or the spiked? It only does that when I fail to provide a writeup, which has been a depressingly regular occurrence this game. But you’re free to read this one and draw your own conclusions on that point, as that’s where Spiked/CS kills are distinguished. (It should be stressed that everything else in the writeup is sheer creative license, including the line between Thug/Lurcher/Mistborn survival. I cannot be held responsible for any damage incurred by treating the rest of my nonsense as the Holy Word of Wyrm.) Edited January 25, 2022 by Fifth Scholar
Plum Rhinoceros Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said: It only does that when I fail to provide a writeup, which has been a depressingly regular occurrence this game. But you’re free to read this one and draw your own conclusions on that point, as that’s where Spiked/CS kills are distinguished. (It should be stressed that everything else in the writeup is sheer creative license, including the line between Thug/Coinshot survival. I cannot be held responsible for any damage incurred by treating the rest of my nonsense as the Holy Word of Wyrm.) Okay Time to go read threads and see if threads give me reads. EDIT: Also, if people want to PM, I'm always open and available with a good ear and a large amount of boredom. Edited January 25, 2022 by Plum Rhinoceros Large is better than good
Quartz Zebra Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) LETS STORMING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i literally popped off so hard when I read my GM PM just now legitimately yelled and prob woke up my fam =P i have single-handedly given the entire vil 2 extra cycles to solve this game. am I conf-vil now? Edited January 25, 2022 by Quartz Zebra
Fuchsia Ostrich Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Quartz Zebra said: am I conf-vil now? you probably will be after tonight xD 2
Chartreuse Penguin Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Fuchsia Ostrich said: you probably will be after tonight xD rip
Quartz Zebra Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Fuchsia Ostrich said: you probably will be after tonight xD mmm yeah rip but like until then conf-vil right? PM me all ur secrets everyone, lemme try and solve this
Fuchsia Ostrich Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Hold on, there's some discrepancy because - Vulture said this during N3 - Quote Vote Count Turquoise Gorilla (9): <8> Amethyst Scorpion, Coral Swan, Emerald Falcon, Fuchsia Ostrich, Magenta Albatross, Onyx Flamingo, Quartz Zebra, Salmon Meerkat Emerald Falcon (2): <4> Amber Vulture, Oxblood Beagle, Pearl Chameleon, Plum Rhinoceros Fuchsia Ostrich (1): Mint Heron Oxblood Beagle (1): Chartreuse Penguin Pearl Chameleon (1): Violet Axolotl Quartz Zebra (1): Charcoal Hyena We know we have one vote missing on Turquoise Gorilla, and two missing on Emerald Falcon. I am in the privileged position of knowing that a player voting on Turquoise Gorilla rioted Plum Rhinoceros onto Turquoise Gorilla. As such, we would expect the vote count to look as follows: It clearly wasn't Violet Axolotl who claimed to Vulture because a. they weren't voting on Gorilla and b. their vote on Chameleon would have disappeared [sans a Smoker] It wasn't Ivory Dragonfly because their claim shows they targeted a different vote - Quote can confirm didnt end up needing to riot the hyena vote as there was consensus in thread but if it was gonna be close tied vote afair was gonna riot to try and ensure the hyena vote and day three i rioted chameleon on to gorilla which if you look back at that vote tally alligns with axolotls claimed actions too If Dragonfly's claim is true and Vulture's claim is true, only then does the math check out. So if the math checks out, and if Dragonfly and Axolotl are not the person who claimed to Vulture, then where is our Third Rioter??? @Ivory Dragonfly, can you confirm if your claim above is correct and that you did not claim to Vulture? @Violet Axolotl, can you confirm if you did not Riot D3? @Amethyst Scorpion, @Onyx Flamingo, @Magenta Albatross - you are the remaining players on the Gorilla wagon, one of you supposedly claimed to Vulture. Anything to clear this up?
Chartreuse Penguin Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, Fuchsia Ostrich said: @Amethyst Scorpion, @Onyx Flamingo, @Magenta Albatross - you are the remaining players on the Gorilla wagon, one of you supposedly claimed to Vulture. Anything to clear this up? And each of you have claimed certain roles that aren’t rioter so uh
Chartreuse Penguin Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) Wait no that was swan @Fuchsia Ostrich false alarm everyone edit: just for reference, Swan's actions (because beagle knew em all anyway): N1 to D2 - Tineye message (the indented one with white text) N2 to D3 - Riot Rhino's vote to Gorilla N3 to D4 - Scanned me N4 to D5 - Coinshot attack on Falcon Edited January 25, 2022 by Chartreuse Penguin
Ivory Dragonfly Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fuchsia Ostrich said: Hold on, there's some discrepancy because - Vulture said this during N3 - It clearly wasn't Violet Axolotl who claimed to Vulture because a. they weren't voting on Gorilla and b. their vote on Chameleon would have disappeared [sans a Smoker] It wasn't Ivory Dragonfly because their claim shows they targeted a different vote - If Dragonfly's claim is true and Vulture's claim is true, only then does the math check out. So if the math checks out, and if Dragonfly and Axolotl are not the person who claimed to Vulture, then where is our Third Rioter??? @Ivory Dragonfly, can you confirm if your claim above is correct and that you did not claim to Vulture? @Violet Axolotl, can you confirm if you did not Riot D3? @Amethyst Scorpion, @Onyx Flamingo, @Magenta Albatross - you are the remaining players on the Gorilla wagon, one of you supposedly claimed to Vulture. Anything to clear this up? i think i misspoke when i said that as i was just typing it from memory meerkat pointed out to me in a pm that it was swan that had actually done the rioting in question which you can see him tell us in this post Quote For everyone who kept asking about the D3 Riot, that was Swan. He Rioted Rhino from Falcon to Gorilla. I tried to pass him off as a Rioter but I guess that failed. So it wasn't that I had a lot of trust in the Rioter—it's that the Rioter was Swan who I had a lot of reason to trust. so swan rioting meant that their own vote was removed but by moving rhinos vote to gorilla it was a net neutral effect on the gorilla vote while reducing the tally on falcon by one i didnt vote day three so that my rioting wouldnt remove my vote and moved chameleons vote to gorilla which accounts for the additional vote on gorilla and the second removed vote from falcon 4 hours ago, Azure Mouse said: Current thoughts: I've honestly just been overwhelmed, and incredibly annoyed by my posts getting deleted after I've typed them but before I can post them. It's infuriating. But my current village reads are Rhino and Penguin, and I have a bad read on Ostrich, but I'm pretty certain that is simply because they started the votes on me. I can't think of anything else that they've said recently (I can't think of things that most people have said recently), but I'll take a quick look through their recent posts. a lot of people who write longer posts will write them in a google doc and copy paste them once done to ensure they dont lose their work would recommend that strategy 5 hours ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: Edit 2: clarification, don't remember how to make text red. use the tags [ color]vote[ /color] but without the spaces Edited January 25, 2022 by Ivory Dragonfly
Chartreuse Penguin Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Azure Mouse A total of 8 posts. First post is just RP, second post is a response to Hyena asking them for thoughts. They also explicitly ask for people to explain the Iguana exe to them: Quote As for iguana, I’m confused why people are voting for them. I just read through and couldn’t pinpoint anything specific. Anyone care to make a short summary of why they are voting for iguana? This was posted January 9, 5:38 am (my timezone), which is January 8 for yall Americans. And according to Mouse 2.0: Quote Mouse had a PM with Chameleon starting on January 5th, and on the 8th Chameleon gave some reasons for Mouse 1.0 to vote on Iguana, and they agreed. So that checks out, because in their next post exactly 11 minutes before rollover, Mouse voted Iguana with no reasoning at all, presumably because Cham talked them into it. Let's suppose for a second that Mouse is an elim. Before Mouse's vote on Iguana, the VC looked like this: Quote Saffron Iguana (4): Pearl Chameleon, Charcoal Hyena, Onyx Flamingo, Salmon Meerkat Scarlet Octopus (3): Chartreuse Penguin, Saffron Iguana, Oxblood Beagle Onyx Flamingo (2): Mint Heron, Fuchsia Ostrich Magenta Albatross (2): Amber Vulture, Emerald Falcon Pearl Chameleon (1): Violet Axolotl Turquoise Gorilla (1): Amethyst Scorpion Amethyst Scorpion (1): Turquoise Gorilla Neither Iguana or Octopus were elims, so even with Iguana's soothe, the exe would've only come to a tie between Iguana and Octopus, two villagers. What motive would e!Mouse have to cast a vote on Iguana so close to rollover when their teammates (cham and gorilla) aren't in any real danger? In the case of v!Mouse, it's clear that Cham wanted to incriminate Mouse and set them up for a misexe later on after Iguana's village flip because a last-minute vote like that looks bad. Especially when Octopus, the counter-wagon, hadn't flipped. So uhhhhhhhhhh yeah I really don't know. I told Ostrich I was open to exe'ing Mouse today, and I still might be convinced to, but at the moment I'm beginning to read them slight village and am conf00z.
Chartreuse Penguin Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Melon Dingo First post is mainly RP, but following that are some OOC thoughts: Quote In other words, I agree with the sentiment that LG74 probably isn't a great judge of what this game's distribution will be. I wouldn't be surprised if something unpredictable occurs, but a similar setup is unlikely in my opinion. That bolded part is a little suspicious in hindsight, given e!coinshot. Their second post also talks about role distribution: Quote I'm more of the opinion that the distribution is a more standard Tyrian setup. What that means, I'm honestly not sure. Village Seeker, or at least more Village Seekers than Elim Seekers. Less Copperclouds? Probably only two Tineyes again. One Village Coinshot. Thugs, Lurchers, Soothers, Rioters, who knows. Subtle insertion of a village coinshot. It's interesting because this was D1 so we didn't even know of the existence of the coinshot yet. Again, suspicious in hindsight, given e!coinshot. They also call Cham out for his coinshot comment: Quote Pearl, pearl, pearl. That first post does seem to be stating the obvious. Of course Coinshots should be cautious. The tone is what jars me. And not like a jar of honey. Every other post is refined, constructed. Every other other is quick, short, and lacking syntax. Is that expressing the nature of the Chameleon, to change every moment? Or is that the nature of something more sinister and pointy? The consistency of the pattern is aiming me toward the former. Could potentially be distancing, because Dingo never voted Cham despite there being a brief period of time where Cham was leading the exe. Their third post is largely NAI. Fourth and Fifth posts are RPing with Croc, around 2 hours before rollover, with the VC being 3/2/2/2/2/2 between Gorilla/Hyena/Swan/Croc/Axl/Iguana. Sixth post was 13 minutes before rollover, commenting on the 'tense rollover'. At this point VC was 3/3/3 between Gorilla/Croc/Iguana. From an e!Dingo perspective, I can see just how stressful and risky it would've been to cast a vote in Gorilla's favour right then, seeing as it's got the potential to implicate Dingo later on. Plus making a big decision like that in such little time wouldn't have been easy either - do you vote Gorilla and bus a teammate without consulting them or vote on a CW and inevitably incriminate your future self? I remember being put in a very similar position as an elim in a past game, where a teammate was on the chopping block D1, there was a potential tie, and I had to cast a very suspicious last-minute vote to save them. Actually yknow what wait I'll go find it- Yup, it was LG35: Check out the D1 EoD. If an alternate wagon hadn't started out of nowhere I probably would've a)voted on my teammate or b)just sat back and watched helplessly, But anyway, back to the present. xD From Dingo's seventh post: Quote I will say - I had to leave about 10 minutes before rollover. I was on until then, and still chose not to vote, mainly because the candidates weren't the ones I had largely been looking at. Plus a close execution leaves vote manipulation around to play, which is information I like to have. And decisions are pressure. Make of that what you will. re: bolded part, it's true that decisions are pressure, but for a villager D1 voting one way or another shouldn't matter all that much because your target is way more likely to be village than elim - it's just something every villager comes to terms with. For an elim, though? Voting on that D1 exe was a lot of pressure. Next few posts are NAI, but here it seems like Dingo wasn't receiving many PMs (?) or something. Then they vote for the first time in the game, on Meerkat (for his tineye scan message). This proves that Dingo isn't against voting by principle, but that they specifically avoided voting D1 and D2, because those lynches weren't unanimous like this one. Voting on those lynches would've given the village something on Dingo that we could've potentially used against them. They also say: Quote Either Salmon Meerkat has confessed / given up, or either a Tineye or a Seeker is lying. I'm not one to try and sell this as a gambit. Which I can see being a result of TMI. After Meerkat's gambit reveal, Dingo posts once but does not retract their vote. Perhaps this was because e!Dingo thought it'd make them look too compliant. They waited over two more hours before finally retracting their vote off Meerkat. Then there's two RP posts, nothing significant there. They take note of Hyena's coinshot attack survival but that's it. Next, they cast the last vote on Hyena, around 4.5 hours before rollover. This was also the final post of that turn. This was also the second and last time Dingo voted. Again, an extremely unanimous lynch. Not looking great. The next time Dingo posts is an RP reaction to Swan's death, nothing worth noting there apart from them wanting to speak to Axo and Zebra. @Violet Axolotl @Quartz Zebra did Dingo ever end up PMing you? If so, what did they say? Then they post RP once again, responding to Meerkat and acknowledging their own lack of substantial activity and again expressing desire to speak to Zebra (via PMs I'm guessing). Next post is during the Beagle exe, nothing much to say about it. Then there's this post following Beagle's flip - Zebra is namedropped again (what's up with that? xD) and brings up Scorp as a slight suspect, but hedges around it a bit before deciding they didn't want Scorp dead. They also spend some words contemplating me, and then: Quote He could have voted, it was true... rusts, those first few days were so long ago. The more recent ones it wouldn't have made a difference. This statement is extremely contradictory with regards to places where Dingo has actually voted. Both times Dingo voted, it was literally the lynches where their vote didn't make a speck of difference. Then come their more recent posts, like this one, where they again bring up Scorp as a suspect: Quote Scorpion. The old hazekiller. The first voice to call for Heron's death. Trusted from such calls in the past. It wasn't a real lead. Rusts, it wasn't even a real suspicion. But he'd look. Scimon Tlag would look, because no one else seemed to, because it was at least somewhere else. Maybe he could finally have a chat with Quartz after this. Or Aethex. Who really knew. Again mentioning Zebra (alongside myself). Don't know if they ever contacted Zebra but they didn't contact me so... They posted thrice last turn, but I don't find anything worth mentioning there. That should be all of Melon Dingo's posts.
Violet Axolotl Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 To answer a couple questions, I have only used my ability twice, and I didn’t get any PM from Dingo. I sent them a PM, but didn’t get any response (which I think they said they would do).
Fuchsia Ostrich Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, Chartreuse Penguin said: Azure Mouse A total of 8 posts. First post is just RP, second post is a response to Hyena asking them for thoughts. They also explicitly ask for people to explain the Iguana exe to them: This was posted January 9, 5:38 am (my timezone), which is January 8 for yall Americans. And according to Mouse 2.0: So that checks out, because in their next post exactly 11 minutes before rollover, Mouse voted Iguana with no reasoning at all, presumably because Cham talked them into it. Let's suppose for a second that Mouse is an elim. Before Mouse's vote on Iguana, the VC looked like this: Neither Iguana or Octopus were elims, so even with Iguana's soothe, the exe would've only come to a tie between Iguana and Octopus, two villagers. What motive would e!Mouse have to cast a vote on Iguana so close to rollover when their teammates (cham and gorilla) aren't in any real danger? In the case of v!Mouse, it's clear that Cham wanted to incriminate Mouse and set them up for a misexe later on after Iguana's village flip because a last-minute vote like that looks bad. Especially when Octopus, the counter-wagon, hadn't flipped. So uhhhhhhhhhh yeah I really don't know. I told Ostrich I was open to exe'ing Mouse today, and I still might be convinced to, but at the moment I'm beginning to read them slight village and am conf00z. Bah, yeah thought their responses were villager-y this cycle. One thing that could explain their vote on Iguana is they wanted to show D2 was v/v to further prove D1 was v/v/v and for that they needed Iguana flip ahead of Octopus, that way they could get Beagle to kill Octopus and state her previously mentioned suspicion on Octopus as a reason. Other way around - i.e. voting off Octopus and having Beagle kill Iguana would have been more suspicious for Beagle. Bah, yeah I realize this is a stretch but I only thought of it because I caught this bit from Axl - Quote Being a v/v train, we have to guess what the elims are up to here. I had already pushed the idea that D1 was v/v/v. So in theory (with e!Hyena and maybe Falcon) the elims are voting out Iguana, then push the v/v/v and idk where they go from there. Interesting to note from Axl, perhaps revealing what it actually was but in the form of harmless villager opinion? Might have to go back to D2 and check the elim votes on Iguana, were they early? Or were they late when they could have chosen Octopus? Another interesting tidbit from Hyena - Quote Furtherermore, if the elims actively used their vote manipulations to bus Turquoise in secret, then surely they would also have voted for Turquoise in order to earn village credit. Inadvertently implying TMI knowledge that everyone on Gorilla was village? Out of 8, 3 have flipped village, 3 were accused of bussing by Hyena [including me and Zebra] and the remaining 2 are Flamingo and Scorpion, who are strongly village in my book. Quote Ivory come on, you and I both know we don't have that much emotional allomancy This makes me hmmmmm a bit because yes I'm perfectly aware that Hyena could be trolling here but the fact that he's said this particularly to Dragonfly, who is a Rioter feels weird to me. Okay Cham's here and the subsequent conversation between Cham and Axl in this page is so very village to me. I am very very paranoid of Axl being a deepwolf but arghhhh all evidence points to v!Axl. Very close to pile 'don't lynch ever'. *sigh* This post from Mouse - Quote I decided to try and read through the rest of the this game to be on equal playing field with the rest of you but there are 37 pages of gameplay and I just simply dont have time for that sorry I think im going to spend a bit of time poking around in PMs trying to get a read on things there, and then come back to the thread once i have a better grasp on the other players. Gamestate thoughts: 8 players dead out of 26 puts us at 18 players remaining Probably an Elim team of around 5? Two dead elims leaving us with 3 or 4 left out of 18 which is looking pretty good in my opinion Not having looked through the history much of the game is it expected that there is an elim coinshot besides the mistborn that just died? My guess is no based off of the amount of people dead being pretty standard for night 4, but I could be wrong. How were Hyena and Gorilla found? Was there anything specific that stands out about how they played? If there is anywhere youd recommend I go look to get a feel for them besides just everything they posted then let me know Bolded just feels so fake to me. Like, they know and are experienced enough to ascertain what is the standard amount of people to be dead by night 4, but then they are basically asking "how were they elim" ? Donno, feels wrong. Nothing of note, just something funny - Quote Well that is certainly something. Did Swan claim to anyone before their death? I agree with Flamingo that they must have rolled steel and attacked Falcon along with whoever our mysterious normal Coinshot has been. Was that coordinated, or a(n) (un)fortunate accident? The 'mysterious normal Coinshot' part by Cham just toooo hilarious xDD Azure's third vote on Chameleon does look good here however - Okay D5 makes me view Axl as evil again because after parking on Cham for most of D2-D3, when Cham is actually in danger, they vote for Heron. When it's 1-1-1 [Cham, Alb, Axl] they go for Heron making 1-1-1-1 (hence avoid voting along with Cham). Later on, there's a situation where it's 3-2 [Cham-Alb], and there's still no shift [or opinion on Cham/Alb] and then Zebra makes it 4-2. He only turns to Cham when it's already 7-2. This, in my opinion, is the single most suspicious thing about Axolotl. Again, in D6 here - Beagle shifts from Albatross (1 -> 0) to Rhino (1 -> 2) when we already have Heron with (2) already. Why not go for Heron to make it 3? Especially now that we know Heron is village? The only thing I can think of? Not to vote alongside Axl. Beagle does shift to Heron later but that's after Meerkat sussed players on Rhino. Also this shift is from Rhino (3-2) to Heron (2-3) which is the same result, so not as significant as the above mentioned refusal to shift to Heron. Dragonfly's the one to equalize it to 3-3 so major village points for that. Again, from Axl's end no discussion about Beagle. Not much involved when votes were shifting. D6 Heron (2) (1) Axolotl Meerkat Beagle Zebra Albatross (0) Beagle Rhino (1) Ostrich Zebra Beagle Heron Flamingo Beagle (7) Penguin Ostrich Dragonfly Meerkat Zebra Flamingo Scorpion And that finished we re-read. Just glanced over D7-N7 but I do want to check D2 again to see if elims pushed Octo early or late. Axl, I'm sorry there's just too much stuff that's bothering me to write-off as paranoia and I feel extremely compelled to vote for you here. Axolotl Mouse
Violet Axolotl Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Fuchsia Ostrich said: Axl, I'm sorry there's just too much stuff that's bothering me to write-off as paranoia and I feel extremely compelled to vote for you here. Axolotl Mouse I appreciate it. If nobody was suspicious of me, I'd probably get NKed sometime. I will say that pretty much all of my activity D6 was in my PM with Meerkat, and my vote was effectively on Beagle (or at least not on Heron) for much of the day. I agree with Penguin's take on Mouse, and would also like to note the comment about a PM being started at a specific time. E!Mouse wouldn't likely be in a PM with Cham, so would have to make that up, while v!Mouse would just say it naturally. Makes me lean a bit more village on Mouse. I'm going to join Penguin on Dingo, retracting from Elephant, but I'll note that this is contingent on rereads. In particular, I'm going to look at what our current elim flips have said about Mouse/Dingo/Elephant (and Dragonfly maybe?).
Chartreuse Penguin Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 41 minutes ago, Fuchsia Ostrich said: Beagle shifts from Albatross (1 -> 0) to Rhino (1 -> 2) when we already have Heron with (2) already. Why not go for Heron to make it 3? Especially now that we know Heron is village? The only thing I can think of? Not to vote alongside Axl. But I mean If Axolotl and Beagle are e/e, then Beagle would've known that Axolotl was gonna Riot Heron's vote. None of them could've known that Heron was smoking themself, and so in theory the votes to Beagle would've looked like: Rhino(1):Zebra and Heron(1): Meerkat [heron's vote rioted off Rhino and Axolotl's negated as a result]. So Beagle moving from Alb to Rhino didn't make much of a difference... Axolotl couldnt have been lying about rioting heron's vote, because they'd claimed to meerkat about doing so and failure to comply with that action would've meant axo getting lynched next. Yes, heron never told anyone they were smoking themself but Axolotl wouldn't have banked on something like that. I am open to lynching axolotl, but I need some time to ~ think ~
Fuchsia Ostrich Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, Chartreuse Penguin said: If Axolotl and Beagle are e/e, then Beagle would've known that Axolotl was gonna Riot Heron's vote. None of them could've known that Heron was smoking themself, and so in theory the votes to Beagle would've looked like: Rhino(1):Zebra and Heron(1): Meerkat [heron's vote rioted off Rhino and Axolotl's negated as a result]. So Beagle moving from Alb to Rhino didn't make much of a difference... Hmmm? Hey actually I think this supports my theory? Logically, (if Axl was village and/or if Beagle didn't know Axl was Rioting), she should have moved to Heron to make it (3) right? The fact that she didn't indicates she might have known about Axl's Riot and self-vote cancel? And hence avoided voting alongside Axl?
Chartreuse Penguin Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Fuchsia Ostrich said: Hey actually I think this supports my theory? yes, that's the trouble
Chartreuse Penguin Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Okay, storm it Violet Axolotl If you flip v I'm back to voting Dingo next cycle [double posting cuz I don't want the vote to go unnoticed]
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