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  1. I think I've said this before, but I still think that Odium will go grab another Shard, and Dalinar will pick up a couple Shards, and he and Sazed will fight Odium and whoever. Someone will manage to grab Dominion and Devotion and put them back together, probably Dalinar as Unity. Either way, all sixteen shards will be in the same place, fighting each other, killing each other, and then all the Vessels will die, leaving all the Shards just...sitting there.... ... ...and then Kelsior will walk up and grab them all and become Adonalsium, having manipulated everything to happen that way.
  2. I'm not going to discuss real world religion, but to give a little context, I am a Christian, and one of Jesus' commands was to love those who persecute you. I am all for protecting one's self and preventing more crime from happening. But it is interesting that when you really know someone, down to their base motivations and completely understand the events that led them to where they are in life, it becomes hard not to care about them. It's easy to dismiss someone as deserving of death when you don't know their life, their struggles, their pains. We are not JUST a product of our environment, but our environment does help to shape us. It can make it difficult to choose the right way. Most people don't wake up and think "I'm going to become a murderer today". It's a slow fade, giving yourself away one choice at a time. I'm desperate, I need money to stay alive, I think I'll steal some bread. Once that's desensitized, maybe you rob someone with a club. You fall in with a group of people who accept you, who give you a place, and who encourage you to continue robbing people, maybe hurting them. They deserve it, after all. They're part of the problem. They stoke your rage. Then there's that first murder. Once the first one happens, the second one is easier. Until you've completely desensitized yourself to the lives of other people. It's just easier to let your rage out on them, take what you want, and then go drink your guilt away, until you've grown callouses around your heart so you don't feel the guilt anymore, if that ever happens. Of course, environment only plays a part. It's the external force trying to shape you. There is also the internal force. Your own choices. In the above example, nobody forced you to start stealing, to start robbing, to join those men, to start killing. You made those choices. Perhaps they were the options of least resistance at the time, but that's on you. You can't really BLAME the environment for MAKING you do anything. Yes, it gave you an easy road to follow, but you still chose to follow it. But understanding how someone became what they became does, at least in part, encourage one to have empathy. To understand, and to feel pain at the choices they'd made, wishing they'd made others. Not that the punishment isn't deserved. But the desire that the punishment hadn't been needed. The men in the book deserved their fate, hands down. But then again, their 'sins' were on public display, whereas most people's are hidden. How many Darkeyes had the Lighteyes killed, robbed from, extorted? But Jasnah doesn't seem to care much about that. Sure, she goes on to free the slaves later, but she doesn't extract revenge on Lighteyes who throw their darkeyed rivals in prison and get them killed. She attacks the Darkeyes who are raping and murdering Lighteyed women. Jasnah's Ethics are rather circumspect, considering she had multiple assassins in her employ to protect her family, who were not the most moral of people. Her uncle murdered an entire city, and her father used that to secure his own power. Personally, I don't think this scene was about stopping crime. It wasn't about keeping these men from committing further atrocities. I think Jasnah was raped when she was younger. Possibly by Amaram, though maybe not. I think that broke her, and made her hate all men. So when she heard of these men, she wanted them dead. But that's just my opinion.
  3. it's not an easy question to answer, though if recent trials are an indication than legally she acted in self defense, and therefore is not guilty of 'murder', in the legal sense. But is it right for an individual to cross into another's territory, where they hold no jurisdiction, holding a powerful weapon, knowing they will be targeted and attacked, and then kill those attackers with said weapon? On the one hand, the attackers were going to harm people, and the government wasn't doing anything about it. On the other hand, what right does this individual have to take the law into their own hands? On the first hand, if the Law isn't going to do anything, then does a person have a moral obligation to step in and do it themselves? On the second hand, where do you draw that line? A victim is never guilty of being assaulted. Never. But a prey animal is not guilty of being nabbed by a predator, either. It still isn't smart for a prey animal to go prancing in front of the predator and tempt them into having a snack. Can one be both not guilty but be responsible for their situation at the same time? Jasnah had a right to be in that alley, and those men had no right to accost her. But she did purposefully taunt them into acting. She had no legal authority to punish those men. But at the same time, the Law wasn't doing anything... It's circular. There really isn't an answer, I don't think. Personally, I think it was wrong, because in the end, those men are dead. It is a fallacy to assume that a man will always act the same way and is therefore incapable of being reformed. Any of those men could have had families. People who loved them. Perhaps one of them was on the verge of becoming something better, and just hadn't reached that point yet. Dalinar did worse, letting his men rape and pillage across Alethkar during the war. He'd only stop them when he found a new Elite to add to his collection and needed a bargaining chip. Shouldn't Jasnah give him the same treatment? He burned down an entire city, for crying out loud, with every man, woman and child burning alive inside. If Dalinar can become better, than the thug on the street can become better.
  4. They do have Soulcasting. In fact, I believe they mentioned that Aluminum is only available through soulcasting. So they at least have access to every kind of metal, even if they don't know about them.
  5. Basically. The two powers are interacting strangely. The way Kriss said it, having two powers doesn't create a third power, but more like having two powers and an effect. Lightweaver's Effect is their memory enhancement.
  6. I don't think Tanavast could have splintered himself. He was Honor. God of Oaths and Bindings. Holding things together was his nature. Splintering himself would have gone against his nature. As we saw with Preservation, the longer an individual is bound to a Shard, the harder it is for them to go against the nature of that Shard. I also don't think the Shard Odium is actually Fear, because Fear is not what people feel from him when they see him. They feel rage. Passion. Odium felt fear, or to be typed more accurately, he FELT FEAR, because he FEELS everything so strongly, because his Shard is, essentially, Emotion. The way I see it, each of the Shards are an aspect of God, called Adonalsium, here. Some of them are Divine representations of the laws God put in place to create the universe: Entropy (Ruin), Inertia (Preservation), Honor (bindings), Cultivation (Life/growth). Others were more representing of himself as a person: Emotion (Odium), Intelligence (Invention), Self Sufficience (Autonomy). Some are how he views others: Endowment, Devotion, Dominion, Mercy. Some are how he views himself: Valor, Ambition. Fear isn't an aspect of God. Not really. There's the quote about Rayse holding God's own Wrath, without anything to give it context. I think that Adonalsium would have been free to act however he wanted, because he wouldn't have 16 intents. He would have One Complete intent. That One Intent was split into 16 pieces, each developing their own Intent. Put any two of them together, particularly who who have competing Intents (like Entropy and Inertia), and you wind up with contention. But give all the shards together, and bind those intents into one, and you don't get a bunch of different intents, you get one complete person.
  7. It is a YA series, but definitely not a "kid's" series. The Epics (people with powers) are vicious, and the prologue shows how much. It is a Standalone series. From what I understand, it has nothing to do with the Cosmere, and isn't even in the same universe, as I believe Earth doesn't exist at all in the Cosmere, and The Reckoners is set on earth. And yeah. I liked Skyward alright. I'll get Cytonic here soon because I want to finish the series. But I loved the Reckoners. Great, great stuff.
  8. I think there's a few reasons TOdium is more of a threat. First is because he's a New Shard. Yes, the older ones, like Cultivation, are more adept at using their power, but they're also more locked in to their intent. Honor was much more focused on Oaths themselves before he died. Ruin just wanted Entropy to reach its fullest conclusion and destroy EVERYTHING. Supposedly, Ati wasn't a bad guy before becoming Ruin for thousands of years. Preservation could barely act, because all he wanted to do was preserve. Cultivation seems sane, but if you believe Odium, then all she cares about is growth and it doesn't matter if it's healthy or not. But with a NEW Shardholder, their person isn't as corrupted by the Shard's Intent. Sazed WANTS to help people, he WANTS to do things that his power just won't let him do. Other Shards seem to want to do only what the Intent of their Shard wants them to do. Rayse was barely in control by the time the books are set, and his Shard is all about rage and passion. TOdium will be feeling all that, but he's still himself, and likely will be for a very, very long time. Eventually, though, it's possible that he will become just like Rayse did. Second, T is not necessarily going to have the same "I don't want my intent corrupted" mentality that Rayse did. Which means he could very well try to absorb other shards, especially when he hears about Sazed. Third, Rayse and Ati were both the first generation Shard Holders. They very much seemed convinced of their own power. It took another Shard Holder to take down Ruin, so Sazed will be rightfully fearful of another Shard Holder being able to threaten him. But T was a weak old man, and not even an intelligent one at the time. Not only did he realize that Odium can't see everything (anyone who can also see the future is basically invisible to him), but he can be tricked by common, stupid people. The First Generation may feel invulnerable, or at least that the only thing that threatens them is another Shard, but T knows differently. He won't make the same mistakes that Rayse or Ati did. As much power as he has, he's not Omnipotent or Omniscient.
  9. Personally, I liked the fact that Jasnah admitted someone might have an intellect superior to hers, considering my thoughts on Jasnah in particular. As for Hoid, I don't get the "Immortals must look at all mortals as babies." I don't think that's how people would work. He's still a man. She's still a woman. Assuming he has a normal hormonal system in place, then things like this are bound to happen to him. Yeah, when I go to a college campus now, having graduated 12 years ago, all the college students look like they're supposed to be in high school, but that's because they're barely adults. It's also because we have college age people playing high schoolers on TV, and people in their thirties playing college age people on TV, so naturally our view of what a college age person looks like is skewed. But once people get in to their thirties, that shouldn't be an issue. When you're the only one living that long, you will have to learn how to deal with people you love dying. You learn how to deal with the grief, making it a part of you, and moving on. Time heals all wounds, as they say, and he has nothing but time. He could spend a thousand years getting over the death of a woman he loved, but eventually, he'd get over her, and move on. This is going to sound horrible, and may undermine my argument, but it's almost like owning dogs. Dogs only live ten to twenty years, on the lower end if they're larger. I got a puppy last year. He'll likely only live to be 12. I know in about ten more years, give or take, I'm going to have to say goodbye to him. And that tears at me. It tears at my soul when I think about it. At least with my family, I can live under the illusion that we'll all live long lives and they could very well outlive me. But there will come a day when I'll have to say goodbye to my buddy. And I hate that. Hate it. Hate hate hate. But I wouldn't trade the moments I have with him. My life is better for the time I have to spend with him. My entire life, going forward, is better for the time we have together. Everyone dies. The Journey is more important. Now, as Joe Black says, take that, multiply it by infinity and cast it into the depths of forever, and you might see how someone like Hoid feels when he falls in love. He knows they aren't going to live long. He knows that ten thousand years from now, he may not even have the space in his head to hold the memories of that person. But that doesn't mean the time they have together means nothing. It doesn't mean he isn't changed, for the better, for being with them. As a young immortal, I can see how one would want to stay away from intimate relationships. But as an older one, and Hoid would qualify, I'd imagine they'd let themselves give in more often. Because love is powerful. It changes us. Makes us think of what's best for someone else. It keeps us knowing why we keep living. As for the mortal, their life is, basically, no different than if they fell for a Mortal who outlives them. So their partner doesn't age. Doesn't mean he hasn't lived with them for seventy years. Just that you don't have to deal with his becoming a decrepit old man. Sure, they could get all weird in the head and decide that the fact that their partner doesn't age is strange and let that ruin the relationship, but that's just in their head.
  10. I listen to the audio books, and Prof is always, always Dominic Purcell from Prison Break. Had that image from the first time I heard him speak. Dalinar's harder, but I almost picture King Leonidas. I know he's clean shaven and his skin is darker, but that's just who I picture. I have an easier time picturing Kaladin.
  11. Interesting. On Scadrial, Copper Clouds are considered to be mostly useless. Sure, they can hide other Allomancers from Seekers, and that's great, and has lots of value to people who want to be hidden. But to themselves, they pretty much can just counter Mental Allomancy. But on other worlds, Smokers could have lots of uses, because they aren't hiding Allomancy, they're apparently hiding Investiture. I wonder if their ability to be immune to Mental Allomancy isn't that they're immune to Mental Allomancy. Think about it. Of all the Allomantic powers, only Brass and Zinc actually affect someone else. Everything else either effects yourself, or metal, or time. Maybe a Smoker is actually just immune to being affected by outside investiture. That would mean Lashings would affect them while burning copper. Lashings, Lightweaving illusions, Regrowth. All those are people using Investiture to affect someone else. If burning Copper would negate that, that's a huge potential advantage.
  12. This is a very morbid post among a morbid thread. "Well, little Timmy is dying. I know he's only three days old, but there's nothing we can do. Readings state he might be a Pewterarm, though. Would you like to stab him or should I do it?" The concept of an embryo not actually being alive is negated if you are able to take something from it's spirit web. Because to take something from its Spirit Web, it must therefore have a soul/spirit to take from. Hence, the argument for abortion, that the fetus is just a clump of cells and isn't really alive, doesn't hold much weight on Scadrial. To answer the original post's question, I don't know. Hemalurgy does seem to be one of the most powerful forms of magic in the cosmere, because if I'm not mistaken, anyone in the Cosmere can do it. All you need is the right metal and the right intent, and the right bind point. But the costs are huge. You aren't just killing someone. You're ripping off a piece of their Soul. When they go Beyond, to whatever is waiting for them, they won't be whole. They'll be torn, missing a part of themselves. When you're dealing with a world where the Spirit is a quantifiable, verifiable thing, it changes the perspective a little. I'm not sure if, in that light, any kind of Hemalurgy can ever actually be moral, because we don't know the full extent of the costs.
  13. Ok. No. The whole point of the entire book is that Tones have an affect on Investiture, or Light. Humming the right tone can cause the Light to react. When she touched the pillar and hummed the Anti-Voidlight tone, she wasn't creating light. She was introducing a vibration (I.E., Tone) that vibrated contrary to the Voidlight within the pillar, causing the Voidlight to react. She wasn't creating light. She was creating a tone that affected the light. In your second quote, yes, she was creating Tower Light, because that's what a Bondsmith can do, or at least the Bondsmith of the Sibling. In the second instance, she did not create it by singing, she created it because she was then bound to the Sibling. Notice no singing in the second instance.
  14. Windrunners feel perfectly fine killing people. In fact, a Windrunner COULD have killed the King, and justified it as protecting Roshar. But he'd made an Oath to protect the King. It was literally his job. So when he ALSO made an Oath to help kill the King, it caused a rift. He would have to break one of those oaths, and breaking oaths hurts the bond, particularly with Honor Spren. Cryptics are different. Shallan can break oaths left and right, as long as they aren't to her Spren. We don't know what oaths Jasnah has to swear, but Honorspren are literally Spren of Oaths. Oaths are all important to them.
  15. Only if it was recent. Healing in the Cosmere is highly dependent on the way you see yourself. Old wounds can't be healed with regrowth because the spirit sees the wound as part of the body. Savantism would be the same. Eventually, the spirit would see the cracks as natural, so healing, in most capacities, wouldn't work. Bloodmaking does the same, with Hemalurgic Gold. You essentially return to whatever your Spiritual You thinks is the ideal you. That's why you can get your head cut off, and just regrow a new one, assuming you have enough Healing stored. Kaladin's brands didn't heal, because he saw them as part of himself. He blamed himself for all his failures, and so he owned those brands. They only healed when he forgave himself for those failures. He no longer saw them as part of his soul. In order to be a Savant, you need to purposefully break your Spiritweb. I'd contend that no healing would fix that, because your spirit sees it as part of yourself. Save, of course, for a meddlesome Shard directly affecting things.