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Check your mail, swag boxes inbound! Wasn't exactly sure where to put this, if it belongs under a different discussion please move.

So the safety toggle could have just been off allowing Wayne to use the gun. That tracks just fine, what got me though is the fact that vindication II is described as being fully aluminum, near the beginning of chapter 25, but it’s also not described as having the special safety. So either it’s a slip up by Sanderson or there is no safety in vindication II, since being made of aluminum means you couldn’t push on the mechanism in the handle.

well that's super disappointing.

Interesting theory, but not enough concrete info to make a determination yet. Big hole would be how did he prevent his passing to the spirit realm, did he have some way anchor himself to the Cog realm? As far as I now you have to hold the power of a shard to do that, perhaps there is some other way to anchor Connection? I'm sure there is since cognitive shadows are a known thing.

this makes me wonder how many Scadrians are on Roshar working with groups in the back ground perhaps lending their allomantic knowledge to help design fabrials. The ghostbloods are obviously realmatically and cosmere aware, have been to quite a few planets and have members from different planets. There seems to be quite a bit happening behind the scenes on Roshar that we are completely unaware of, I would love to get a secret histories type book on Roshar.

Wow, I totally forgot about that.

Wondersail? You mean First Dreams? And Lopen? He was on that ship? damnation I need to re-read that interlude.

So she has Connection with Yalb and the sailors which Explains her vision for that drawing. When and where would she have made Connection with Shalash I wonder? also, when reading the passage about her drawing of the woman with the chisel, I totally thought steel inquisitor, makes a lot more sense to be Shalash, but damnation how cool it be if instead of a chisel what she was seeing was a hemalurgic spike.

For sure! There is a tasty link to this in the latest RoW chapter release...

Hope I'm not coming off as contentious, I haven't read every post on the topic but I didn't notice anyone trying to completely dismiss the abuse in the other thread (I obviously could have missed it). overall I agree with your sentiment here, we don't have enough info yet and I think that is the reason people are speculating so much on the topic.

Can I just say how cool it is to get an epic fantasy series of this scale so full of such interesting dynamic and REAL characters? To such a degree that it sparks conversations like this.

I don't think anyone is defending, dismissing or not recognizing the actions of abuse. Its more of a question of why and how. Why is Gavilar being abusive? and How did Gavilar get to this point? From what we can see here he's a conqueror who became power drunk and discovered a path to becoming a god (possibly?), he was a complete megalomaniac at the time of his death. But up to this point we saw Gavilar as the softer side to Dalinar's Black Thorn days, the reasonable one who restrained him and moved them away from war and killing and onto creating a kingdom with a stable society. Now we get this, its kind of a shock to the system so naturally we have questions, we wanna know why and how he got to this point and what signs did we potentially miss that pointed to this type of person. I think he may have been on good path or at least one of redemption for the war monger he had been, but then discovered something that sent him back to the edge and then over it. I think that something was a path to godhood but I also wonder if he was further being manipulated by odium or one of the unmade, hell it could have been more than just manipulation some of his mental capacity may have even been compromised (we have seen what effect the unmade can have on a person, take Aesudan for example). It's human nature to ask questions and want to understand the deeper meaning of things, exploring these nuances does not mean we are dismissing the act of abuse, the very act of trying to figure out the why and how is acknowledgment of its existence in the first place.

I don't think anyone here is defending, dismissing or not recognizing the actions of abuse. Its more of a question of why and how. Why is Gavilar being abusive? and How did Gavilar get to this point? From what we can see here he's a conqueror who became power drunk and discovered a path to becoming a god (possibly?), he was a complete megalomaniac at the time of his death. But up to this point we saw Gavilar as the softer side to Dalinar's Black Thorn days, the reasonable one who restrained him and moved them away from war and killing and onto creating a kingdom with a stable society. Now we get this, its kind of a shock to the system so naturally we have questions, we wanna know why and how he got to this point and what signs did we potentially miss that pointed to this type of person. I think he may have been on good path or at least one of redemption for the war monger he had been, but then discovered something that sent him back to the edge and then over it. I think that something was a path to godhood but I also wonder if he was further being manipulated by odium or one of the unmade, hell it could have been more than just manipulation some of his mental capacity may have even been compromised (we have seen what effect the unmade can have on a person, take Aesudan for example). It's human nature to ask questions and want to understand the deeper meaning of things, exploring these nuances does not mean we are dismissing the act of abuse, the very act of trying to figure out the why and how is acknowledgment of its existence in the first place.

I’ve read the Stormlight archive the whole way through 4 times now, I love it every time. I’ve never enjoyed a book series so thoroughly.

Been reading Sanderson for 10 years now, I still remember the day I found https://coppermind.net and discovered it’s all connected, still gives me chills to think about. My sanderfan buddies and I spent days pouring over that wiki discovering a whole new universe. So excited for this next book! at any rate my buddy made this meme and I had to share it.