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[Voidus]

Put quite simply, the reason that Shallans fathers soulcaster didn't work after being repaired is that it never did. I realise it's probably a bit of a stretch to have both soulcasters being fake but I like my theory so I'm just going to ignore that and bribe you all with cookies. This is also an explanation as to why the ghostbloods want the soulcaster back so badly so that no one discovers that Brightlord Davar was actually a surgebinder, this basically all hangs around the fact that Scadriels forms of investiture were all hereditary so it may be the case on Roshar as well.
Right, now COOKIES FOR EVERYONE!!!

[Shivertongue]

This is an excellent cookie theory. We should have more theories that come with snacks are so well put together.

[Odium's_Shard]

I am also with Shivertongue. Everyone on this forum likes bribes/theories/cookies. I especially like to chomp on a good cookie theory every now and again. Actually, now that I think about it, I probably should have proffered a cookie response of my own instead of sat here typing away about cookies you theory.

[Lantern13]

Meh... the cookie theory is not snickerdoodle good enough to convince me .

[Voidus]

Actually now that I think about it this would also explain why the Ghostbloods wanted to kill Jasnah, she was the only other person who knew that it was possible to soulcast without a fabrial.

Edited by Voidus, 24 March 2012 - 05:30 AM.

[Aaradel]

It was cut by a secret shardblade though. If it was a working fabrial, I'm willing to bet it'd need to be entirely reforged to work properly

[Voidus]

Well they did try to repair it, also do we know that it was actually cut by a shardblade? We know it was broken but that could have happened some other way.

[Aaradel]

Shallan has a shardblade we assume she gained around the time she murderd her father.

Her family discovered the soulcaster in his pocket after his death.

The cut was clean, typical of shardblades.

I'll have to hunt to find the page references.

[Voidus]

If it says that it was cut I'll take that to mean by a shardblade but yeah I can only remember it saying broken :S

[Lantern13]

why would Shallan put it in a pocket? The sharblade would cut the clothes (since they're dead). And I would think "Shardblade" if I came across a dead body with clothes that are nice and cleanly cut but no wound is on the skin... unless the reason why there was a pool of blood was because Shallan recut that area after it was also dead (I don't think dead bodies make pools of blood very well though... ) and then she saw the soulcaster and was like "uhhhh... I'm gonna hide that in an uncut pocket".

[Odium's_Shard]

Dead bodies can pump blood around the body for roughly 45 seconds after their hosts have 'died' in the definition of 'brain-dead', which is what we might assume a Shardblade might do, ie, cut nervous connections to the brain. Therefore the heart would continue to follow its last instruction (beat) until such a time as the next set are due, at which the brain doesn't respond, and the heart then stops.

[Lantern13]

The brain tells the heart to beat for 45 seconds? I would think the brain would tell the heart to beat for every time the heart needed to beat.

[Odium's_Shard]

No, no, the brain tells the heart to beat for ten loops (whole ventricular convulsions) in a row by sending out delayed nervous messages to the SAN pacemaker cells... basically, it receives one delayed message every beat, but the brain sends them in batches of ten. To maximise effectiveness, the brain has about 5 wholes batches waiting in the wings, and when it dies, all five are released in periods. 50 heart beats lasts the heart another 45 seconds.

[Lantern13]

ooo. That's cool.

[Odium's_Shard]

Sorry, as you can tell, my random knowledge covers a wide range of strangely and often indiscriminately remembered facts from my education.

[Lantern13]

Why apologize????

[Voidus]

If I had a smaller gif of it I'd give you another cookie for that Odium Random (seemingly useless) knowledge ftw!

[Odium's_Shard]

I apologize because at some point in the future you will be, once again, burdened with unnecessary and useless knowledge, solely in order for me to drive home a point. Eventually you will sink from the battleship-worth of random facts that will be unloaded onto you if you again question my 'knowledge' of heart neuro-transmitting units... and the involved chemo-transcriptular organs to receive electro-convulsion impulses...

[Voidus]

That's ok I love random and unnecessary information, hardly a topic comes up that I can't relate to some obscure piece of knowledge which I'm not sure how I possess

[Odium's_Shard]

Did you know that giraffe's saliva contains a poison that makes people love cuddly animals? It's true.
Did you know that giraffe's tongue are black because they lick their body to heat them up in the winter, and black absorbs sunlight? It's true.

You get the gist?