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[FireArcadia]

To the admins, I hope this is in the right place

I met Brandon today in York, UK. You will soon be able to see a picture on twitter of the cookie I have him. Since I knew it was thanksgiving, it was a thanksgiving-themed cookie.

After getting books signed, I asked him a few questions, listed below as best I can remember them.

Q. Are there 50 Allomantic Metals?
A. "Nearly. Does Harmony have a metal?"

Q. Is that an alloy of Lerasium and Atium?
A. "You're along the right lines."

Q. What is the definition of Investiture?
A. "RAFO. Investiture is off the table as far as questions go."

Q. You have said before that all the planets had their names before the arrival of the Shards. Is Roshar the planet's name before the Shards arrived?
A. "Yes."

Q. How do Roshar natives know the name of the Cosmere?
A. "RAFO"

Q. Is Shallan's memory a Surge?
A. "I want to wait for the right opportunity before revealing more surges."

Q. You have said previously that the Stormlight archive will include Lightweaving. Is that still the plan?
A. "Yes."

Q. Have we seen a Roshar native in tWoK who can use Lightweaving?
A. "Yes, we have seen someone who has potential." He seemed to be trying to say that they don't know that they can use it.

Q. How many Heralds appear in tWoK?
A. "More than you might expect. Some have appeared, some have been mentioned but not appeared."

Q. Can you tell me something about the Cosmere that you haven't told anyone before?
A. "There are inhabited planets in the Cosmere that don't have any Shards there. There may be inhabited planets that only have a Splinter of a Shard. There are 10 Core Cosmere planets, which tell the overarching story of the Cosmere."

Q. "Are all the Cosmere books so far set on these 10 core worlds?"
A. "Yes"

Q. Are there any of the 10 core worlds without a shard?
A. "All 10 core worlds have significant Shardic Influence."

These last few questions seem particularly important.
10 Core worlds?

Sel
Scadrial
Nalthis
Roshar
Taladin
Yolen (The Liar of Partinel & Dragonsteel)
The planet of The Silence Divine

That still gives us three more core Shard worlds...

DIscuss!

Edited by FireArcadia, 27 November 2011 - 04:55 AM.

[Wispsy]

Awesome nice work

Heralds appear to have been mentioned alot lately, Kinda makes it sound like we clearly missing one. The ones I know of are;
Jezrien - Prologue
Kalak - prologue (my iBooks is messing up so it's from memory but I think it's these 2)
Shalash - smashing stuff
Taln - end


Also it seems likely sigzil (aaah so many names i think its this one) is the one who can probably use light weaving as he seems to have been hoids apprentice for quite some time



One other thing, looks pretty likely her memory is a surge, suspected it was, but he coul just be intentionally throwing us off I guess lol

Edited by Wispsy, 24 November 2011 - 08:03 AM.

[Windrunner]

Q. Can you tell me something about the Cosmere that you haven't told anyone before?
A. "There are inhabited planets in the Cosmere that don't have any Shards there. There may be inhabited planets that only have a Splinter of a Shard. There are 10 Core Cosmere planets, which tell the overarching story of the Cosmere."

Q. "Are all the Cosmere books so far set on these 10 core worlds?"
A. "Yes"

Q. Are there any of the 10 core worlds without a shard?
A. "All 10 core worlds have significant Shardic Influence."

Can I just say wow! Here I was hoping for maybe eight Shardworlds, and there are ten important ones! Also, worlds with Splinters and some with no Shardic influence at all! It makes me wonder if maybe Nalthis had no Shard on it until recently, just inhabitants left over from the Shattering.

Sel
Scadrial
Nalthis
Roshar
Taladin (Silence Divine)
Yolen (The Liar of Partinel & Dragonsteel)
The planet of White Sands.

I'm pretty sure that Taldain is the name of the White Sands planet, home of Bavadin and whatever Shard he holds. We don't know the name of the Silence Divine planet.

[FireArcadia]

I'm pretty sure that Taldain is the name of the White Sands planet, home of Bavadin and whatever Shard he holds. We don't know the name of the Silence Divine planet.

Thanks for pointing that out, have edited it now.

It makes me wonder if maybe Nalthis had no Shard on it until recently, just inhabitants left over from the Shattering.

I was wondering if the Shardic Influence could refer to Sel; is a Shard still a Shard if it has been Splintered? In which case, there are no Shards on Sel a the time of the book Elantris, but two whole heaps of Shardic influence.

Edited by FireArcadia, 24 November 2011 - 10:51 AM.

[Argent]

I am more interested in Harmony's metal. The way I see it, it is not exactly an allow of Lerasium and Atium. Both of those metals were the physical manifestations of Preservation's and Ruin's power - their bodies, if you will, since Shards' power and body are one and the same entity. So, if there were a Harnomy metal (Sazedium? Sazium?), it would be something new that combines some of Preservation's and Ruin's common traits and manifests them as a harmonic metal. Kind of like a Venn diagram, I guess, where the overlapping area is the new metal.

[Chaos]

This is awesome. I'm totally shocked, actually, because Brandon's said originally there was going to be 32 or 36 main cosmere books, and the known ones are at 37 with Alloy. interesting that there are other planets, which maybe don't get books.

[darniil]

harmonic metal

Heh. Vibranium.

Good thoughts, though. Makes sense. Although, if there's a "Harmony metal", that seems to suggest that the Shards of Preservation and Ruin aren't as distinct as they were at Sazed's ascension.

[FireArcadia]

This is awesome. I'm totally shocked, actually, because Brandon's said originally there was going to be 32 or 36 main cosmere books, and the known ones are at 37 with Alloy. interesting that there are other planets, which maybe don't get books.

With AoL, we have 10 planned mistborn books
10 planned SA books
2 Warbreaker books
2 Elantris books
Liar of Partinel and Dragonsteel
White Sands
The Silence Divine.

That gives 28. What are the other 9 that give 37?

In terms of Harmony's metal, I think it makes sense for it to be an alloy of Lerasium and Atium. Brandon has said that, if Sazed wished, he could create Atium and Lerasium on Scadrial. Well, at least it was confirmed for Atium, and so I assume it is the same for Lerasium. If this is the case, it seems odd that, by having two shards, there would be three completely separate god metals. It seems far more likely that this is a metal that is an alloy.


BTW would an alloy of half Lerasium and half Atium produce a metal that makes a normal person into a full Feruchemist?

[CrazyRioter]

I think that makes sense, but it is not confirmed, and some people disagree.

[Deus Ex Biotica]

With AoL, we have 10 planned mistborn books
10 planned SA books
2 Warbreaker books
2 Elantris books
Liar of Partinel and Dragonsteel
White Sands
The Silence Divine.

That gives 28. What are the other 9 that give 37?

Strictly speaking, we have at least 11 Misborn books, given that there is intended to be at least one more with Wax and Wayne, too. And I thought there was going to be a full Elantris trilogy. That still only makes 30, though - I am also curious what Chaos' numbers include.

BTW would an alloy of half Lerasium and half Atium produce a metal that makes a normal person into a full Feruchemist?

There's been some discussion of that in assorted Threads. So far, no agreement.

-- Deus Ex Biotica

[Chaos]

Dragonsteel is the second big epic, seven books long, though the first two (Liar and its sequel) are offset in time from the main Dragonsteel arc.

10 Stormlight
9 Mistborn
3 Elantris
2 Warbreaker
Silence Divine
3 White Sand (it is a trilogy)
Dragonsteel: Liar of Partinel and its sequel, 2. Main Dragonsteel sequence, 7.

= 35.

With Alloy, 36.

(You can find Brandon talking about this in the Reddit Q&A, though he added wrong there)

Hmm. I thought for sure it was 37. I think Josh and I got into arguments on whether Aether of Night is still going to be a cosmere book. Maybe that's what I was thinking of.

[Shard Obsessed]

It's possible that since saying 36, Brandon decided on a couple other ideas which fit well into his greater cosmology which he hasn't talked about yet. Alternatively, the space travel Mistborn trilogy could include visits to shard planets that never get their own books.

[happyman]

It's possible that since saying 36, Brandon decided on a couple other ideas which fit well into his greater cosmology which he hasn't talked about yet. Alternatively, the space travel Mistborn trilogy could include visits to shard planets that never get their own books.

Actually, since we know that Mistborn is including space travel, it wouldn't be remotely surprising to have book centered or using multiple planets, including ones that were never "standalone," especially if no Shards were present on some of them. Also, if Mistborn goes FTL, there's nothing to stop the other parts of the Cosmere from doing the same. There's no reason for the climax to not include planets that have nothing to do with any of the places we have yet heard of.

[mycoltbug]

Last I had heard regarding Aether is Brandon was still up in the air on if it would be part of the cannon or not.

[Sir Read-a-Lot]

Since this thread has a lot of information/discussion on Shardworlds, I'll throw in my tidbit from Brandon's Houston signing. I asked him how much choice the Shards had on which planets they ended up on. He said that they had a lot of choice, but it was not absolute.

[Captain.Kaulu]

It's possible that since saying 36, Brandon decided on a couple other ideas which fit well into his greater cosmology which he hasn't talked about yet. Alternatively, the space travel Mistborn trilogy could include visits to shard planets that never get their own books.

Brandon repeated the 36 Cosmere Novels statistic to me at the Alloy of Law signing, so it appears to still be the plan. It sounded like Alloy of Law and any other "short" books don't count, however -- only "epic"-length novels are counted in the 36. (Non-Shard worlds of the Cosmere could, like Alloy of Law, end up being short "break" books that he writes.)

So ...
10 Stormlight
9 Mistborn (epic-length)
3 Elantris
2 Warbreaker
3 White Sand (assuming the trilogy info on it is still up-to-date)
1 Silence Divine
7 Dragonsteel

= 35 books. Meaning the other three worlds would all have to be covered in one book ... or, as was theorized, in cross-over books, like the space-faring Mistborn trilogy.

[dj26792]

People keep mentioning the space faring mistborn as a possible crossover, we know Hoid is a world hopper, what about the Dragonsteel books and that series is about Hoid (I think...?) why wouldnt the later books involve another world, or worlds as he learns to world hop and begins his journey.

[Zhevir]

I think I have read somewhere that stormlight archive will be set in 2 different worlds. If this is incorrect please correct me.

[Sir Read-a-Lot]

I think I have read somewhere that stormlight archive will be set in 2 different worlds. If this is incorrect please correct me.

I had not heard this, but it's entirely possible. It's also possible that the second world that's being referred to is Shadesmar, although that's not technically a world.

[Captain.Kaulu]

I think I have read somewhere that stormlight archive will be set in 2 different worlds. If this is incorrect please correct me.

Ah, interesting. Perhaps the Roshar myths of Roshar being a secondary world for its people, after they were kicked out of the Tranquiline Halls, are more literal than I suspected. Perhaps the original world they lived on was the other planet in the same system; the one Bavadin is occupying.