Aeshdan he/him Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 At the very end of AoL, right before Miles dies, he yells "You are fools! One day the men of red and gold, bearers of the final metal, will come to you! And you will be rule by them!" This sounds awfully like one of the death-visions from WoK, and we know that AoL is just after WoK. I am sure this is very significant, but not really what of. 2
Windrunner he/him Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 I'm pretty sure Brandon has said that Miles's red and gold cigar box is tied in with this. I think it's related to the people from the southern continent. The company could be a front for the southerners to get information on the people of Elendel. Miles knows about it, and says it as he is dying, a kind of last slap in the face for his executioners. It seems that the people from the southern continent will be attacking before too long, in my opinion probably during the other Wax and Wayne books. This comes from my belief that, if the people on Scadrial have twentieth century technology in the second trilogy, surely they would have some explorers who have gone south and said, "Hey guys, there are people down there". The scariest thing I've heard about these people is what someone said in another topic. They've been advancing for 1300 years, whereas the people of the north were held in stasis for 1000 of those years, The southerners are going to be way technologically superior. It does provide an explanation for why the 20th century trilogy is only 50 years away, which doesn't seem long enough to develop sufficient technology. In my opinion, it doesn't really sound like one of the death visions. He's talking directly too the audience the whole time, which I think only happens in one death quote, briefly("Healer why do you take my blood?") It really seems to me that he's going, "See you later suckers, you're all going to be dead before too long anyway." It just occurred to me that Edwarn and Miles were trying to take over Elendel's government. Maybe as a peaceful way, they could hand it over to the technologically superior foreigners, and perhaps be left in charge.
Zas678 he/him Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 Brandon refuses to say anything about the red box- but he pointedly says nothing. ZAS678 (REDDIT.COM) Is it significant that Miles said that the "men of gold and red" would come and rule? Is there a connection between this and the "gold and red" cigar box that Miles keeps The Suit's comings and goings on? BRANDON SANDERSON (REDDIT.COM) This is all very significant. Source
LevenThumps Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 REALLY. Can't wait for the sequel to Alloy of Law.
Odium's_Shard Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 I really need to read AoL to get these tantalising hints.
Thought Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 While it is likely that the two-by-two, hands of red-and-gold are southerners, it would be fun if this hinted at a more pan-cosmeria event. Color's have been associated with the various shards. White and Black represent Ruin and Preservation (respectively, I like to believe), for example. If we look to the cosmere, we do see red being an important aspect of somewhere else which is possibly connected to a shard: the followers of Shu-Dereth, whose magic may be resulting from Dominion's presence. Red may be Dominion's color, then, and thus the Red's may be the followers of Wyrn. No idea about the gold. But, as noted, it is more likely that this refers to others already on Scadrial. I am interested in this "final metal" dealeo. It seems likely that the 16 allomantic metals are already known in AoL, so either this will break that set up (seems unlikely), or it will introduce godmetals again. 3
Odium's_Shard Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 Remember that Kelsier heralded Malatium as the coming of the 'Eleventh Metal', when really it was just an alloy of Atium. So it is possibly one of the alloys of Lerasium of Atium. If more godmetals need to be discovered, I personally, on behalf of the Following of the Epic God Metal, propose sodium. See here for its description. "I rest my case." 2
Commander Spoonface he/him Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 (edited) I personally believe that this new metal will rocket out of left field and leave us all stunned. Then we will realize it was being set up all along, and we will feel like idiots. Happy idiots. Edited April 2, 2012 by Commander Spoonface
Aradel he/him Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 While it is likely that the two-by-two, hands of red-and-gold are... Snip Did anyone else suddenly catch the firefly reference here? They're obviously mysterious people in suits and gloves that brainwash little girls into assasins and melt poeple's brains with sound.
Commander Spoonface he/him Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Did anyone else suddenly catch the firefly reference here? They're obviously mysterious people in suits and gloves that brainwash little girls into assasins and melt poeple's brains with sound. I upvoted the post for that specific reason. Let's just hope the series doesn't get cancelled before we get to find out who they are this time.
Aeshdan he/him Posted April 5, 2012 Author Posted April 5, 2012 I am interested in this "final metal" dealeo. It seems likely that the 16 allomantic metals are already known in AoL, so either this will break that set up (seems unlikely), or it will introduce godmetals again. Odds are that it's either Harmonium or (because of the color) Lightsongium
Odium's_Shard Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 Harmonium raises a good point: Are we sure what would happen if Atium was alloyed with Lerasium, ie, 50-50? Or do you think there is an Allomantic alloy percentage, ie 87-23? Also, I don't think we know what Lerasium's Allomantic property is, because Brandon said that making you a Mistborn was just a 'side-effect' of the ingestion?
Commander Spoonface he/him Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 A side effect of increasing your connection to Preservation. What happens if your connection to both Preservation and Ruin increases?
CrazyRioter she/her Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 a lot of people think that an alloy of atium and lerasium would make a Feruchemist.
RenegadeShroom Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 I figured that Sazedium (after all, Lerasium and Atium aren't called Presevationium and Reuinium, are they? ) would be a 50/50 alloy of Lerasium/Atium, since Feruchemy is (or at least, if I remember correctly) equally of Preservation and Ruin, and Harmony is assumably also equally of the two, since they cancel each other out. So I imagine that pure Sazedium would be a 50/50 ratio. In any case, I've heard theories that suggest that it makes one a Feruchemist when burned, but I'm not so sure. Although I haven't any logical reason to doubt it. XD 1
Triasmus Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) Why would burning anything make you a feruchemist? Lerasium: makes one who burns it awesomely powerful (compared to other allomancers who only inherited) Atium: can steal anything Harmonium (fine... I edited it): Can store any attribute? It might do awesome things for the other metallic arts, but anything it does in relation to a feruchemist, a feruchemist would have to be able to do. If it makes someone a feruchemist, it'd be by that person coming in contact with it or trying to store something in it (since that's how feruchemists work with metal). It wouldn't (well... shouldn't) make somebody using allomancy into a feruchemist. Edited April 9, 2012 by Lantern13
Odium's_Shard Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 Why then, wouldn't a Feruchemist just use Harmonium (works best, sorry, guys) to store power. When released, those wimpy Keepers up in the Terris Mountains could probably shout down a mountain, or throw an army across a field with a blink of the eye. Besides, if nobody was able to store awesome, then nobody would be around to write the Mistborn books. Deduction: Brandon is a Legend, a Ferring of the metal Harmonium. Revision: Brandon is Adonalsium. Why would he needs to shout down mountains when he could destroy existence itself? 2
Thought Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 a lot of people think that an alloy of atium and lerasium would make a Feruchemist. That seems to be looking at the alloy from an allomantic perspective. I'd propose that if there was a feruchemical god metal, touching it would allow anyone to store a feruchemical attribute, but it wouldn't permanently make them a feruchemist. Just as feruchemy doesn't make one permanently stronger, its godmetal doesn't seem like it should make one permanently a feruchemist. As Lantern pointed out, Allomancy's patron godmetal allows someone to burn any burnable metal, Hemalurgy's allows one to steal anything stealable attribute, so Feruchemy's should likewise influence feruchemy in a feruchemical way. 1
Commander Spoonface he/him Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 Does Atium increase one's connection to Ruin? Or only when it is used in Hemalurgy? I think that Harmonium might be related to Feruchemy if used as a Metalmind, but when burned allomanticly, it might have a different effect.
Tulir he/him Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 I'm pretty sure both nicrosil and it's alloy (I can't remember it right now), weren't known at the time of AofL.
Windrunner he/him Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 I'm pretty sure both nicrosil and it's alloy (I can't remember it right now), weren't known at the time of AofL. Nicrosil is the alloy, the base metal is chromium. I think that they have been found somewhere but aren't widely known. The Ars Arcanum mentions Terris people not knowing what they are doing when they store investiture, which is nicrosil, so they must have chromium as well. I think there's a quote that says the same, but I can't find it right now. If I have time later, and no one else has found it, I'll look.
CrazyRioter she/her Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 yeah, Brandon has said that they exist, but most people haven't encountered them and don't really know what they do.
Windrunner he/him Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 I remembered that quote too but I couldn't find it anywhere. Do you know what interview it's from?
Aeshdan he/him Posted April 26, 2012 Author Posted April 26, 2012 Revision: Brandon is Adonalsium. Why would he needs to shout down mountains when he could destroy existence itself? Of course Brandon is Adonalsium! it's basic philosophy!
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