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We should not forget that Honor was still alive and kicking when the 9 Heralds bailed.  I don't think it unlikely that he and Cultivation did something to preserve and protect the Honorblades from being used inappropriately.  These were weapons of great power which were created and given to specific people for a specific purpose.  It seems unlikely that they would have allowed something like that to be left in the wind. 

I do agree. Though I'm not sure Where honor was killed. I always assumed that he was killed when the shattered plains were created but reading the book again the plans were destroyed before the heralds broke the oathpack. At least I assume they were fighting at the plains. But if honor died after what would happen to the shards he hid. Will they magically appear like the body of Ati and Leras or they are still hidden?

Yeah I loved Nightblood! I actually could see Szeth being an Unmade pawn. The equivalent of Kaladin where the relative Unmade would be a mirror-Jezrien. Szeth is constantly hoping someone will be better than him and defeat him and I haven't said it much on here, but I think Kaladin is going to kill him near the end of WoR. Later we'll get a Szeth flashback book when we need the information it holds. Those are my hopes at least.

I hope Kaladin doesn't. Again that would be to easy. I think Szeth would kill himself. Its one of the rules he has to obey isn't it? So killing himself means he'll break away from the unmade. Like how Vin sacrificed herself after Elend was killed by Marsh.

I don't know that an Honorblade can be "lost". I would assume that each Blade is bound to the Herald in some way greater than that of a Shardblade as we know them. I believe that the Heralds can either recover their Blades whenever they desire, or the Blades have been taken beyond their reach by a greater power. I find the second possibility unlikely.

 

I'm pretty sure that the Heralds predated the arrival of humans on Roshar. What the spren did was a surprise to Honor. The Radiants were an accident. The Heralds fought in the Tranquiline Halls prior to their forced exile. For some of the Heralds to belong to Cultivation, you'd have to buy my theory regarding the origins of Roshars humans and the Tranquiline Halls, and that would just make it possible, not likely.

 

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I'm not entirely sure about the tranquiline halls theory and the other world. We know that it took Odium awhile to settle but not about honor and cultivation. Plus I always thought that the halls were not in the physical realm. I thought it must be spiritual as its when people die the go to help the heralds. Or maybe Shardsmar? Lift's spren says its weird for her to be able to touch him unless she's part of the cognitive realm and maybe its there?

I'm possibly confusing alot of stuff now. I never really got the difference between the spiritual and cognitive realms

Yeah, that's what I think, but I don't know if it is a popular opinion. I like it though. But I've always been a fan of the "power weapon" stories that attach someone's abilities to their weapons that they keep with them. In fact it is one of the main reasons I get turned off by A Song of Ice and Fire; the Valerion steel blades are kind of built up, and then the people who have them don't seem to be very much better off for it. 

But that's enough about me...

So is Brandon, Think Nightblood! There are theories saying that Szeth is connected to the Unmade and is the opposite of the KR and Heralds but I don't think that he's actually evil enough for it. He always talks about his honor and is pained by what he does so I think I'm going to stick to the blade link theory. Plus it would be too obvious and predictable for Szeth to be "bad". He's one of the main characters and in line with his other works he might be the one who ends up saving the world. Maybe its my wishful thinking though

Going further out on this limb: The Radiants have stored them in Urithiru. 

That just seems too easy. Considering the fact that we know pretty much nothing about Urithiru we can't assume everything leads there. It would seem kind of a waste to have 9 honorblades lying around for nothing. They are possibly being used somewhere. Though maybe Cultivation hid them? She lost her lover so she's being petty and keeping the blades away?

Speaking of Cultivation... We know that some of the Radiants are connected to her (lift's interlude, well at least the Spren) and as each order of Radiants were connected a herald, does that mean some of the honorblades are actually hers?

I think I'm rambling again...

nope got it. I don't understand the forth one though

actually I just figured that out and now i'm on the 3rd page. I can't do the 3rd one though. The hint has kinda thrown me off. Chopsticks?

And still stuck on hint 2.... rules, rule, law, laws, stopsigns, trafficlights, parents . . . . gah!

I can't figure this one either! Any help?

Where is the rest of Lift and Ym's interludes? I keep seeing references to them on the coppermind but I can't seem to find them anywhere...

I think this question would be a definite Read And Find Out.

Knowing Brandon's way of thinking he has probably put them somewhere obvious in the books but we aren't just smart enough to figure it out yet

There are theories on this. Some people think Szeth has one, which would probably be assuming the Shin control them, or some group Szeth is associated with. Not sure, but pretty confident the Knights Radiant did not use them as their own - there were just too many of them. This is one of those questions that you could spend hours reading about if you type Honorblade into the search bar, but by the end you would be exhausted. 

I did not think of that. Do you reckon that's why Szeth doesn't need a spren for his windrunner abilities? The blade provides the link necessary for him to access to his powers?

I've just started a WoK re-read and was wondering where are the honorblades? If the heralds left them then did someone else just pick them up later? Did the knights radiant use them? Or did the almighty strike from above and trn them into stone or something?

Hello everyone! I've been a Brandon Sanderson fan since reading mistborn and have literally devoured all his books ever since. He was what got me into liking fantasy.

I've been checking these forms and coppermind for about 2 years now and I thought I should possibly join the community...