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They don’t when I can’t verify. I have no way of knowing whether some of your posts were or were not counted for rupees. Those posts change the mumbers.

The problem I see is that otherwise Doc has to have it, meaning he threw away a silver mask for scents. And the entire thing is weird. Currently my opinion is going for Twin for the final exe and avoiding the Hael/Doc thing

Same here, I’ve been holding off on what Saitaku was doing, so I think I could work with this

I think you misunderstand what I’m saying, I don’t think you got scents loop 2, I think Stick did, and I think you got Keaton loop 3. You would’ve had the rupees by N1C. Edit: you said you wouldn’t have, but you also said you had posts that Aman didn’t count. Which I have no way of verifying. Going just by posts, you’d be able to

Wow, everything is coming together. I will say that Saitaku would instantly steal that, not caring for the consequences if he knew that existed. (For obvious reasons)

Yeah. As Coco said, Stick couldn’t have had it. Plus no village is claiming Keaton, meaning an Elim must have it I don’t think the reasons for why Doc would have scents are convincing, so I think Hael had to have had it(assuming you V!read me)

That’s true, but that still doesn’t explain why Doc would not go to a silver despite being able to. If he bought scents, why would he do that instead of getting a silver loop 3? He could have, but I see no reason for that to be the case. Stick is also a person who could have gotten the scents mask

What does being Dead have to do with that?

Which also doesn’t make sense as he could’ve gone for Silver, and that checks out with his buy pattern for the other loops. Why go for silver only to abandon it the loop before? And yeah, Elims would lie, which is what Burnt did, (and what I think Hael did) numbers don’t though

There was. Stick’s vote was changed from voting Hael to voting herself.(TJ caught it) And we assume the Keaton mask person is Elim because no one is claiming it and also because the person who would have would have lied about their mask multiple times already Also, “I’ve never been killed” privilege?

Well… I’m obviously of the opinion of Elim shenanigans. (E!Hael and E!Stick coordination) What about you, what do you think is more likely? Doc purposely giving up a Silver mask for Keaton, or the shenanigans?

So… our options for Keaton are me lying, E!Doc not going for a Silver, Or Hael and Stick doing some weird shenanigans. Loop 3 Dead Doc, did Hael claim himself or did Aman write his name in.

He claimed Roleblock TUM claimed scents I think(I’m not sure on this one) Edit: I checked and TUM did claim scents Edit 2: I did not read your post accurately, my bad, I’ll get back to you on Wahr Keaton in a sec

Good Game Minions of Mischief? Not a very had puzzle, it’s literally whoever gets on first

So… the only way I can think of Keaton is existing is one of a few ways 1. I’m lying about having Gibdo(I’m not) 2. Doc’s lying about having mask of truth but got Keaton(weird because we know he had the rupees for a silver) 3 Burnt had 100 rupees(we all can agree that that is nonsense 4 Hael lied about captains(only possible if another Elim had captains and Stick had it or something(and they shared info through Elim doc) very unlikely) 5Coco, Twin, and Ash died before this took place. So…. Either Doc didn’t go for a silver(despite being able to) or Hael and Stick did some stuff in the Elim doc. anyone want to claim Keaton?

Wait. Since Aman said the VC was accurate, who bought Keaton?

Stick once again, let’s get the people everyone agrees with first

Elims benefit from the village lacking information 1. he couldn’t have messed with them too much. If he messed with any PM involving a villager, that villager could just call him out on it. That best he could do is make Burnt seem like she PMed Stick instead of another Elim, which doesn’t seem like something to be worried about 2. Yeah, but so does sharing that he had the postman’s hat, I don’t think that this is anything extra 3. he didn’t have to say he had the information, he did that himself, so it wouldn’t have been weird because he would’ve never brought it up. What he did leans village to me, but I would still say it’s not enough by itself to base anything on, so both, if that makes sense Your right, the village doesn’t have talk at monopoly, but everything I’ve seen seems to suggest that a Elim Doc would’ve had to guess Hael was going to be a problem D3C, and that he’d have to protect Stick, which we both agree isn’t what’s happening (I’ll reply to the rest later but my downtime is about to turn on)

Alright, my post counts each day, with Rankings. I got max rupees each loop though. Cause I want to know how much I’ve continued here Well… that’s a lot. I’ve posted a total of 344 time for this game(not including this thread) I think it’s safe to say I’m winning For more data that doesn’t help us but I find interesting. There’s been a total of 1,851 posts in total(including Aman)(but not counting this thread) which means I’ve posted about 18.5% of all posts in this game

Ah, that’s sad, Aman didn’t rupee PMs tonight, otherwise I’d be at 22 right now. But it seems I need to keep my streak up then. Though considering I’m 90% sure I have the most posts on every single thread. I’m actually curious about whether I am now, I’m gonna go check. Also. Before you die, mind sharing the names of your teammates?

It seems I linked the wrong post, my bad. But here: the VC shows Stick voting for herself. Edit: in response to your post right before this one: Yeah, I think he had to. If he didn’t share. We were going to Vote him out because of Ash, and then we’d hear from Drake loop 5 and know both Hael and Stick are Elims. I don’t think this was deliberate planning, just the best thing out of what they had. Which is why I’m looking into whether Burnt/Hael/Stick/Twin is viable

That doesn’t make sense though, he never once advocated for or against voting stick(that I remember) just voting Hael. Furthermore, your proposed Elim team is Burnt/Twin/Stick/Doc, yet only Doc voted for Hael. Burnt’s didn’t matter, but Stick voted herself, which doesn’t match your Elim team as supposedly she’d vote Hael plus, here, if she kept her vote on Hael, Hael would’ve had the most votes Edit: which supports my theory of E!Hael and E!Stick trying to sacrifice Stick so Hael has village cred for loop 4

So… why did doc throw the loop then?

Pretty much yeah, everything was going their way till Doc claimed. Stick would’ve been exed and they would’ve been able to win. Doc claiming Hael was Elim ruins that. My theorizing requires Hael to not be exed at the tiebreaker. Doc completely undermines that I just established how we would exe the same people loop 4 as loop 3. Resulting in us winning the loop, if they didn’t NK burnt, we’d just vote Burnt for the Tiebreaker, but suddenly we had reasons to vote Hael, and they decided that they we’re screwed, and they might as well concede Edit: you’re right about me putting a bit too much faith into Doc’s actions “making sense” but I will say I don’t think his actions make sense as an Elim. Unless you think he purposely threw the loop? And the game?

Yeah, we’ll probably disagree on that third. Till then it’ll just be us trying to convince each other. Alright. The Elim team I believe happening is Burnt/Stick/Hael/Coco First off. Burnt: fairly easy one. Hasn’t really denied it, I don’t think I need to explain this one. Stick: First off, we have a Don Gero claim from Drake. And we don’t have a counter-claim. I believe that Drake had Don Gero due to knowing Archer was Postmaster. I don’t think I need to go into this one either as I’m talking to Drake Hael. This is based on Doc’s Mask of Truth claim. Which requires an V!Doc. First off, he shared who PMed who loop one and volunteered that information. He did not need to do that, and since Wonko(the loop 2 postmaster) got NKed, we wouldn’t have discovered that was possible till loop 3(if a Elim didn’t get it) Second, his activity loop 3 matches what he was doing and indicates knowing exactly what would happen D3(something he could not have known, Elim or not). Basically, he gave an excuse for not going for Stone. Which isn’t alignment indicative, either side would do that if they could get a silver mask. However, He PMed Wahr and TUM, and Ash(but Ash died so we don’t care about that). That means that this had foresight(not exactly alignment indicative but it makes is less likely as Elim) Using that PM, he set up a way to communicate with Wahr and TUM and used that to say Hael was village before Hael claimed Captains, meaning he had no way of knowing Stick was outed, or anything like that. He committed to Hael being Elim before knowing anything so it couldn’t have been reacting to him calling out Stick. Further proof to me that Doc’s not Elim Also, we know he had the rupees for this. He also knew that we would block him during the night for it. Revealing that he had a silver mask, basically shuts down any use of having a rez. The only situation where that would be even remotely worth it is if we had 3 Elims already dead by the end of D2(since N2 was when Wahr and TUM received their PMs from him claiming he had the mask) which is only possible if you are Elim, which we both agree you’re not. Fake revealing a scan on Hael would’ve cost them the loop, basically. So unless you’re saying that you’re the Elim and they couldn’t have resurrected an Elim to win, Doc threw the loop right then and there, as soon as he PMed Wahr and TUM. I don’t think I need to point out what a monumentally stupid plan that would be. however, we still need to explain Hael representing the Dead doc accurately. My simple solution, he knew they were going to lose. D3, we went in with the plan to exe Hael. But you claimed that Stick was Elim, and if Hael didn’t share that info, that was pretty much outing two Elims instead of one if he shared the information. So he said that Drake knew Stick NKed him. Sacrificing Stick, but ensuring his own safety, until Doc spoke up, that is. They were going to lose if we exed Hael, so he sacrificed stick, another Elim, making it so we still won, but giving Hael a lot of village cred. Then they could’ve gone into loop three, letting us exe Coco/Twin and Stick, and NKing burnt, once again letting us win the loop, but since Hael had been so instrumental in getting Stick exed, non of us would’ve voted him, causing us to lose the tiebreaker and the overall game. Coco: I’d go into coco, but I’m not as sure anymore, I’ve seen some good arguments for Twin lately, and so I’m gonna have to revisit my opinions on Coco. So I’ll leave it at that for now and see if a Burnt/Stick/Hael/Twin team is even possible