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Shallan

I wouldn't have gotten it without that guess lol Who wants to go next Not it

TenSoon?

STAY IN THE BOX NO STAY IN THE BOX NYYYYOOOOOOOOO

MOST of his theories are right But no I heard it from a few places

What she said You?

Combustion Man

Yes, not all Shards have numbers and we don't know all that do Some of the ones we do are are Preservation (16) Honor (10) Odium (9) Virtuosity (13) Endowment (5)

THE BEST MONTH WOOOOOOOOO

*palatine voice* Ironic

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Shards are not gods. Shards are not divine. They are mortals wielding a fraction of the power the true God Adonalsium held. Lerasium is a small part of the Shard but not even Leras was particularly concerned by its theft and consumption. Compare that to LOTR where the Trees and Silmarils were created by true divinity. The Shards are mortals too. I think that’s one of the biggest recurring themes across the Cosmere. Adonalsium was the one true God and his attributes split into Shards. But those powers are incomplete and they were taken by regular fallible people. Preservation allowed a system of horrible cruelty to span centuries because it was stable. Leras lied and betrayed Ati to protect Scadrial sacrificing his life in doing so, something I think is noble but not something a true god would do or have to do. Ruin was tricked by Leras and killed by Vin. Autonomy was outmaneuvered and forced to temporarily retreat from Scadrial. Even Sazed is still a man who struggles with the powers he’s been given. Over on Roshar, Honor’s been the biggest case of a fallible Shard, getting so caught up in oaths he forgot his humanity, betraying Ba-Ado-Mishram, and compromising the Shard’s Intent so many times the power rejected him. Even Cultivation’s master plan for Dalinar to claim Honor failed (at least as she had planned it) and she had to flee the planet. In Endowment’s letter to Hoid we see that she’s not above selfishness and pettiness, again the traits of a mortal not a true God. And there’s also the fact that both Shard and Vessel can die. Ambition, Devotion, Dominion, and Virtuosity are all dead. Devotion and Dominion were manipulated into fighting and weakening each other before being destroyed by Odium, something possible with mortals and not gods. There’s an important distinction to be made. Vessels can certainly be evil as humans can be, but the power itself cannot. It’s limited and that causes harm, but not evil. All 16 attributes worked together when a part of Adonalsium as they were balanced. Just as we are, Adonalsium was capable of having multiple attributes work together at once. He could Cultivate because he could also Ruin. He could Invent and feel Devoted to his creations. Think about how you feel when you’re angry about something because it goes against your morals. You feel a mix of Odium (the anger) along with Honor (because it goes against what you find honorable). So to with Adonalsium. When he was killed and the Shards created, that whole was lost. Shards became only capable of one singleminded Intent. Ruin was now a force of unrestricted destruction without the tempering of Honor or Cultivation or Preservation. Devotion became a force of pure unhealthy… devotion instead of a tempered love as we see with the Seons who are happily willing to live as slaves to the Selish. Odium became unfiltered hatred without a cause, simply burning and consuming and raging. Etc, etc These half-powers were taken by mortals, creating fallible beings as incomplete powers were claimed by fallible mortals who tried to approximate gods. Vessels can be evil, Rayse certainly was, but the power itself isn’t. It’s a force of nature and they can’t be evil in the same way a tornado can’t be evil. What they are is limited. I think that’s part of the reason Hoid declined taking a Shard despite being involved in the Shattering. Humans actually seem to be freer than Shards in a lot of ways. There seem to be some new developments in that the Shard of Honor can relearn some of that old whole as a result of being bonded to humans who do have that range of attributes and emotions like Adonalsium did. Fair enough, the whole avatar thing is still a bit dodgy. It does seem like Bavadin’s avatars have some level of autonomy though since I doubt Bavadin would have been willing to speak to Hoid at all while Patji responded and stated “Perhaps if you had approached the correct one of us with your plea, it would have found favorable audience." That might be the condition for the total defeat of Autonomy. As of TLM she lost the battle for Scadrial. She didn’t lose the war and she’ll be back later but it was a definite defeat for her and a victory for Scadrial. In wars the successful repelling of an invasion is a victory even if the war isn’t ended (Battle of Midway, Battle of Britain, Battle of Stalingrad to name some famous ones). I see

The Cosmere just isn’t that simplistic Reality doesn’t end after the final page is turned; all evil doesn’t depart Scadrial following the Catacendre. The Shards are all extremely fallible as we’ve seen with Honor and Cultivation. Sazed isn’t an exception. Wax, Wayne, and Marasi succeeded, the women were saved though yes there are still loose threads. Autonomy was very much defeated albeit temporarily but it earned Scadrial the respite it needs to regroup and prepare for the real war. IOTED is also set on a planet called Drominad, not Taldain but yes it is also shaped by Autonomy. That Shard is different from Ruin and Odium. Odium represents unbridled hatred while Ruin is unbridled destruction. Autonomy on the other hand is not necessarily a destructive force. As pointed out by Moonlight, Bavadin is a hypocrite in the way she interprets the Shard’s Intent. Drominad is home to an avatar who seems to interpret Autonomy in a different way than Bavadin does. While it’s still brutal it does help to nurture the people of that world. No Shard is entirely or traditionally evil as mentioned in many WOBs. On Lerasium, it really is just a bar of metal. It wasn’t a sacred relic to the Terris people nor anyone on Scadrial. As of Era 2 it is also somewhat easily replaced as Harmony is capable of creating more. But again, the main thing is it’s NOT a sacred relic to anyone in-universe. Hoid does have a soft spot for Roshar. But no that doesn’t mean Sanderson plays favorites or downplays Scadrial in favor of Roshar. I’d like to ask you something but before I do I’d like to clarify this isn’t a personal attack; I’m genuinely curious because you have a very unique perspective. Why is it you so strongly dislike nuance? That seems to be the main way your view differs from the rest of the fandom.

Szeth-son-son-Vallano, Truthless of Shinovar, wore ChipsAHoid on the day he was to kill a king.

She can all but make you fall in love like you’re on you’re hUnDrEtH date

You must consume and digest it and you’ll manifest a being of your creation, all you need’s imagination, thoug it’s only for a moment ‘till you’ve beaten your opponent

Awhahwahwhawhaw Wouldn’t you like a taste of the power Wouldn’t you like to use more than words?

Divine intervention, someone who’s not afraid to… send a message

A foe like Circe’s not to be messed with