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I just finished Emberdark and I have some worries From what we see in the book, future Scadrial doesn't seem like a very nice place, there's even a mention of the Malwish empire being fascists when Starling first goes to confront them So now I'm worried, cause we have fascists with a magic system that's transferred genetically (and based on the diminished power of diluted bloodlines, it's an autosomal recessive trait with variable expressivity, like Huntington's disease) which makes me immediately jump to eugenics We've seen the early variations of it in era 2 but with gene editing, CRISPR and other cellular machinery the possibilities are terrifying If some scadrian wanted to test the limits of what was possible and they didn't have a conscience.... I'm shivering, making everyone an allomacer/feruchemist is just the tip of the iceberg Like, could they adapt the arcane gene (allomancy/feruchemy) and transfer it to animals? Could the build a bio nanomachine that utilizes miniscule amount of metal? Would the intent of the technician be sufficient in that case? And if that's not possible, could they create unhuman abominations that their entire purpose in their "life" is to produce metalminds? So yeah, worrying

Hemalurgy! Yes! The most accessible magic in the Cosmere (if you're willing to get your hands dirty). One of the most interesting things (at least to me) about Hemalurgy is that we've only seen three types of Hemalurgic Constructs: Physical (Koloss, Kandra and Inquisitors), Mental (Kandra and Inquisitors) and "Godly" (Chimeras). What I'd really like to know is how would the Spiritual and Temporal Hemalurgic Constructs will look and their further effect on the Cosmere.

Huh. I'm not a physicist/astrophysicist so I'll have to take you at your word. I guess this theory can't be true without some serious Cosmere physics shenanigans.

We don't know how far the time dilatation extends around the planet, so whatever satelites the Scadrians may have or soldiers communicating with the Night Brigade ship may still get caught up in it.

That's right! I forgot that we already saw an example of this. thank you!

An interesting speculation. Although, since we don't know Harmoniums' effects when used in Allomancy, Feruchemy and Hemalurgy, there might be more interesting ways to use Harmonium in the futuree of the Cosmere. but now that I think about it (an I understand that thiss is entirely irrelevant to my original topic), the uses of Harmonium we see in Era 2 aren't Allomantic. Feruchemical or Hemalurgical; so I wonder if the other God Metals have other arcane effects beyond Allomancy, Feruchemy and Hemalurgy (since we know they are all viable for those, as per Brandon).

Thanks! That's the plan!

Do you think that people trying to take Sunhearts away from Canticle would encounter the same problem as Radiants trying to leave Roshar? As in: the Sunhearts are so Connected to Canticle just like spren are so Connected to Roshar. It's crearly a problem that's already solved in the space age of the Cosmere since we know that Radiants are not bound to Roshar by the way the scadrians asked Zellion if he took the Oaths (and because Hoid managed it' but he's special) . I just wanted to pose the question.

Happy to be here! Favorite book is Oathbringer, but favorite series is Mistborn.

Thanks! happy to be here In what way does compounding with unkeyed metalminds distorts the world? Would both of those conditions be satisfied if you continued to store your Identity not only through the storing of the attribute you wanted to compound but also whilst you burn the metalmind?

Nice to meet you too! happy to be here

Least favorite side character? I'd have to Raoden's father, sunce his actions are sickening but to the level of him being an antagonist instead of a side character.

Very true. Man, I seriously can't wait for Era 3 for more theorizing material.

thanks for the reply! Woohoo! That's a very realistic possibily, especially if you have your victims under duress in a controlled enviroment. though I still like my solution more (probably since I'm biased ) because it allows for a more dynamic manipulation of your Identity should you start collecting more powers.

Hello! I just joined the 17th Shard and even though you geniuses probably already figured it out, I wanted to at least post the theory i had on Identity Contamination since the moment I finished The Lost Metal. In the book, Marsh says that the Set hadn't figured out a way to Compound yet because of Identity Contamination, and in the Ars Arcanum it says that "The secret to cracking why this is, and how to circumvent it, could be of utmost importance to those watching Hemalurgy and its (presumed) danger to the cosmere as a whole." And I think I figured it out. Hemalurgy works by ripping an Aspect of a person's Spirit Web and stapling it onto another person, granting them that Aspect. However, from the term "Identity Contamination" we can infer a likely possibility: that along with a person's Aspect, a tiny fragment of their Identity is also taken. Which means that if a Feruchemical Hemalurgist were to create a metalmind that metalmind would be keyed (at least partially, i think) to the original Feruchemist. And from a scene in TFE where Vin tries to burn Sazed's pwetermind we that an Allomancer (even one that can burn the proper metal), just like a Feruchemist, cannot access anothers metalmind. Now that we understand (or at least understand a theory of) why Identity Contamination happens and why it affects Compounding, we can solve it. In BOM we learned of unkeyed and unsealed metalminds (we will leave unsealed metalminds aside for now, as those relate more to Investiture than Identity). An unkeyed metalmind is a special kind of metalmind that anyone with the relevant Feruchemical ability can access. They are created through manipulation of Identity, such as through aluminum Feruchemy. Whereas a conventional metalmind is keyed to the Identity of the Feruchemist who created it, unkeyed metalminds are not attuned to any specific individual's Identity (we saw one that Wayne took in New Seran). So now we have a solution for Compounding via Hemalurgy: The amount of spikes you need varies depending on how many powers you want to Compound, but the minimum amount of spikes (the ability to Compound one power) is three. First, you need to steal the power of an Aluminium Ferring (granting you the ability to manipulate your identity). Then, you need to steal the powers of an Allomancer and Feruchemist of the same metal (if we take steel as an example, you'd need the powers of a Coinshot and a Steelrunner). Now you need to store all of your Identity before you store the Feruchemical attribute you want to Compound (such as speed), thus creating an unkeyed metalmind, you burn it* and begin to Compound (in the example: becoming the Flash).

Yesssss! It's the most interesting of the three. I'm about ot post a theory I had about identity contamination that rattled in my head since I finished TLM. Even if I'm late to the party and it's already figured out I still want to post it.

ooooh difficult, they're all so good! probably the Metallic Arts though, since I love the consistency. It feels the most like a science for me out of all the magic systems, which makes it so much fun to figure out!

hello everyone! I'm new to the 17th Shard but not new to the Cosmere, I've read all of the published works in the Cosmere up to and including secret project #4. I'm sincerely looking forward to discussing and theorizing about the Cosmere with all of you!