ShardlessVessel

It feels just like a regular metal. Why should there be a difference, though? Whether pulsed out or reflected, it's a pulse coming at you.

I did check Coppermind before posting the question, but they have no citation, so I'm left with the question of just where that idea comes from.

Whenever the topic of atium mistings is brought up I see someone talk about how atium mistings only exist in Hero of Ages because Preservation changed the rules Allomancy/Snapping to make it possible so his plan would work. Why? Where is that stated? Did I miss that detail in the books, or is it from a WoB or Annotations? Besides being a god metal (which to me is not a good enough justification) I see no reason why there shouldn't be atium mistings.

The WoB I linked says that you can do it (I should have quoted it, but I was on the phone and it didn't cross my mind): One thing I want to note is that the WoB I'm quoting is from 2021 according to Arcanum, while yours is from 2015; he had time to decide. We can only be sure if we get to see in a story, anyhow.

Could we and the Scadrians be looking at this in reverse? Copper is a pulling metal and bronze is a pushing metal. Could a Seeker actually be sending out pulses and listening for the reflections, while a Smoker absorbs or muffles those pulses, preventing the Seeker from listening? Investiture resists Investiture. Allomancers burning metals are Invested. If you send out a pulse and it hits someone burning a metal, it's like a sound hitting a wall, and depending on the metal being burned, that "sound" reflects differently.

You might not need raysium for that. Brandon has said that you can steal Breath with nicrosil spikes, though he hasn't elaborated on how that's done. Relevant WoB: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/472/#e14896

You might be onto something here: look at the Shattered Plains. I also believe that anti-Investiture is used by Shards to splinter other Shards, which is related to the notion of using anti-Tones to harm enemies.

I know. What I mean is that to steal allomantic bronze, you need a bronze spike. That means piercing the victim with a piece of bronze, then placing that same piece of bronze into the receiver's body. If the earring is coated in silver and the coating was intact at the time of the stealing, the bronze would not have touched Vin's sister's blood (or her body at all), meaning you do not need direct contact between the spike and the person to perform Hemalurgy. How this information might be useful, I am not sure right now, but it stuck out to me when I was rereading recently.

Vin's earring is an especially interesting case, as the spike is made of bronze, but the earring itself is gilded (?) with silver, so it may be that the spike itself never touched blood, or a person's flesh, in the first place. The spike is stated to have lost some of the silver coating "years ago" (before or after it was used on her sister?), though.

That's a really good point. Hemalurgy can be used (as a term) in a broader way than just stapling spiritwebs together; I may have been distracted by my own limited thinking in my original post. This makes me think of Miles Hundredlives. His goldminds were piercings, stabbed into his body so he could be compounding all the time. Could this have allowed Trell to influence his mind, even though they weren't "proper" Hemalurgic spikes (that we know, anyway)? But that's a conversation for another thread, I think.

That's what I'm getting at: can there be applications of Hemalurgy that we are completely unaware of because the characters haven't figured them out yet? Brandon has said that most magic systems can be hacked together, so maybe you can "trick" the metalmind into acting as a Hemalurgic spike, similarly to how you can "trick" Allomancy into giving Feruchemical power (compounding) or a Returned can feed on Stormlight instead of Breaths. Good point. Specifying that an AI can be spiked may imply that a regular object is not sentient enough to be spiked. Looking at it another way, however, the AI is not really the object itself, but an artificial spren inhabiting a machine. That's good to know, but I want to add an asterisk here: in Rhythm of War, we see memories stored in Breaths being destroyed (by destroying/removing the Breaths holding those memories); once the memory is bound in Investiture, such as Breaths or a metalmind, maybe it can be manipulated by Hemalurgy as well. I am certain that it's possible - that's not too far from the process of making a koloss or a kandra with the blessing of Potency, I think. The absurd bit that I'm suggesting is taking the strength of something like a steel bar and giving it to a human. Perhaps it's not possible for regular objects, but maybe Invested objects can be spiked. Though as you mention, it would be a challenge to shove a spike into something made of metal. Sorry if I sound aggressive with all the quoting, by the way. It's not meant that way.

This isn't going to be a full-fledged theory, but rather some thoughts that I've been having for a while. I was looking up some details on Feruchemy for tabletop gaming purposes (I could find no conclusive answer as to whether it has to be snapped like Allomancy), and I stumbled upon this WOB that gave me an implication and reminded me of an idea I had. Here's the WOB: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/90/#e4620 The Implication The parts that got my attention were these: "Piercing someone's body with Invested metal can have weird effects all through the Cosmere" "ripping off a piece of a person's soul using an un-Invested spike to Invest it and create one is different" "For instance if you've got a spike that's Invested and you stick it into a Kandra on Scadrial it will still work as an Invested Hemalurgic spike" The implication is that any Invested spike can be used for Hemalurgic purposes, including such things as metalminds, Lashed metals, Forged metals or otherwise Invested metals that are inserted in the body. Can anybody point me to a WOB that categorically denies that you can use a metalmind as a spike? The Idea My other idea is far-fetched, though I'm not entirely certain whether it's more or less crazy than what I implied above. Here's my thought process: objects have minds. They have a Cognitive aspect, and they're aware. They know what they are, they remember what they were, and they can be Connected to people, places, other objects, and more. Objects must have a spiritweb, though it may be rudimentary. Hemalurgy works by altering a spiritweb. If you rip off a piece of a person's spiritweb and staple it to someone else, the latter person becomes a little more like the former person in some way, though the process may twist them into something unnatural. What if you took a piece of a person's spiritweb and stapled it into someTHING else? Say I steal a Coinshot's alomantic ability, take the bloody spike from his chest and stab it into a bracelet? Can I transfer the allomantic ability to the bracelet? Can I take the density of steel and splice it into a human's bones? Can I steal a person's strength and splice it into a Feruchemist's pewtermind? Can I steal a memory from a Feruchemist's coppermind and staple it into a person's mind (and would that memory decay over time)?

Do we know for certain that Ba-Ado-Mishram and the Sibling are not the same spren? I apologize in advance in case this is a profoundly silly question.

Thanks! I think those will be very useful.

I'm going to run a homebrew-ish (I'm using a flexible system) TTRPG campaign themed around Mistborn, and I want to use the Final Empire setting (to stick to the 10 early metals), but I don't want to mess with Luthadel or the main story. To have an excuse to have Ferrings and the like, I'm inventing a secret society based on the Terris Dominance and want to set the campaign on Tathingdwen, somewhere between 200 and 400 years before TFE. How much is known about the Terris Dominance? All I know is that it's supposed to be mountainous and cold. Does anyone know of materials I could use as a guide to design the city and its outskirts? P.S.: If this isn't the right place to make this post, please let me know.

That's a surprisingly difficult question to answer. There are characters I hate as people, but not as characters. Dilaf comes to mind: he's an infuriating, unreasonable zealot - and the fact that I can so genuinely hate him makes him a great character in my eyes. I hate him because he's a great character, not a bad one. I see Moash in your signature. I dislike him, but I don't despise him - I care little for what he's done, but he lost all my respect in RoW. Hypocritical coward. As a character? Brilliantly written. The other reason why it's so hard for me to answer this question is because I don't actually pick favorites. I just like a bunch of stuff, dislike a bunch of stuff and am neutral on a bunch of stuff. Very rarely does something stand out enough for me to qualify it as "best". But if I had to choose one, it's Kiin's autistic child from Elantris, whose name slips my mind. He's a bit of a caricature and he actually feels like a plot device. I don't dislike as person, but I feel he could have been much more polished. How's that for a long-winded answer to a simple question? Maybe I should start a career as a epic fantasy author.

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