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Signing up as Jenali a student who wants to know everything in the universe but will settle for everything at the University for now
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This game is functionally flipless cause well basically get a max of three flips and like resurrection makes numbers complicated plus delayed random flips but probably three evils cause of the resurrection you know and yeah fighters most important items dont get destroyed by death which does kind of mean that someone with the Dawnshard of Time getting shot by evils is like the worst possible world be careful with that ok @Szeth_Pancakes the 15 percent increase in odds of death is flat right so like 7 deaad people means certain death sorta thing without a blade and not you have another flat roll sorta thing also are banished protectors of the dawnsahrd counted as part of the evil wincon or no
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Listen the idea that at most one fourth of total player counts would flip and probably significantly less than that considering thats if bladed people get banished before they die was a little offputting but Ill join to pad your numbers a little
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Welp I guess the Shardic alliance prevails congrats to Drake my buddy and Novel my buddys successor and all the kids village well you can never truly account for defectors I would have pursued the joint victory it was all very exciting but oh well I still won as Holy Ruin Destroyer of Worlds Kas in my heart I dont think you backstabbed me or at least unless you did something I dont remember but still if youre just talking about the shot then I agreed to that and theres nothing you can say thatll convince me it was your fault
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We basically have two ways to joint win and in all of them we lead off voting one of the two vessels with vessel shield which is me or Novel so I hereby select me to get voted JNV and like we could engineer ties but this feels safer to me personally Either I kill Drake and Odium kills a villager tonight followed by last second Novel Intent Conversion just as all the Shards go back or I hold off and kill Drake at the last second N10 along with Novels intent Conversion and with either of those Odium just puts it back either now as Drake or later as whoever inherits after I shoot or when Drake passes it so pick one cause if I shoot Drake and Drake doesnt shoot someone else then its a problem or vice versa you know
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Shard recontainment takes two turns so itd be no one does anything in the day and those things happen at night or Novels plan also works if its easier to coordinate without getting Odium to do things um well has Odium been passed whos Odium
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The issue with Novels plan is Drake does need to die for the village sudden death con to happen so honestly what I think needs to happen is I need to kill Drake in the night turn while Odium kills a villager to keep equal numbers the voting stuff can still happen as in Novels plan and then every Shard goes back in containment C10 and even then we need to check with @Ashbringer to see their final ruling on whether wincon preventing intent conversion can happen cause they said they were in favor but thats not a definite yes
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Listen if you guys want to tear apart the victory alliance thats your prerogative Ive got my wincon Ive started putting Ruin away its not my fight anymore
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In all worlds where the village wins Drake needs to die and we can all win this turn cause I got my wincon and new Autonomy can use Investment action to make new Shard and Shardic action to convert then everyone votes Drake so it ends up well I guess it ends up 4 6 cause of the conversion forgot to subtract in the first post and village gets wincon of killing everyone Autonomous gets wincon of outnumbering do you see any holes here I dont want to screw things up cause I misread the rules
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Physically impossible planet destroying takes my Shardic and I cnat use that more than once per cycle so yeah Im assuming Odium shot Walin New Autonomy uses Investment to make a new vessel and a third Shardic to convert makes it 5 6 oh and I didnt get told my location but Ive asked and Ill edit it in when I get told Edit Im on Silverlight but I guess putting the Shards back is a secondary issue cause the village could just get regular win by voting Drake
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Honestly it might be simpler for the sake of the plan to vote me cause I still have my vessel shield and we control all the kills so its basically like a no vote except a lot less prone to vote manipulation and hammers and such Edit ok well thinking about it like if we vote the last Hoid allied guy then it all still works and we might not even need to contain again we just hm we just need to make sure the kill numbers all work out so hm this is tricky can we try not to vote the Hoid guy person it makes the timeline complicated
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Ok so lets talk timeline Ive got one of two destruction charges on Scadrial Ill get the other one in the night turn heres the issue if I dont get sent to Silverlight for the day I wont be able to put it back cause the rules say it needs both the day and the night of one cycle not just two consecutive turns so yeah if I dont Ill have to hop there and just idle in the night before spending cycle 10 on it same for anyone who gets Drakes Shards so honestly timing wise we could just leave Drake alive for another cycle get the Shards to trustworthy people who wont murder then spend day 9 pushing off Drake by then all Shards passed ready to be put back all that sound good or no
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Listen Ive mentioned my views on the murderpuppy so Wizard alright good night see you on rhe other side
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Threnodys gone muahahahaha Im going to Scadrial next so if you want to join up for a two cycle end of world rave meet me there otherwise get off planet oh and also like can I petition you guys to let Drake live for like another cycle maybe we can entice them to put Odium in containment so theyre no threat to us you know please I know Im biased but you really bold over the course of an end of the world rave and now theyre the only other person who was there I have quokka bribes if you do but only if you do
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Oh well if there was a coin flip for it I guess I lost it then you know given the situation But instead of thread stuff, lets think about quokkas
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Vote for what I mean its fairly obvious I didnt vote cause my names not in the vote count I need two more cycles after tonight and no one messing with me I need to destroy Scadrial well I need a bit more than that but those bits are already gotten cause Braize is gone Threnodys about to blow sorta thing
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Hey everyone the end of the world rave is happening this time around for real for real no more tricksy murders in the dark were on a schedule and were doing it tonight on the great and grand planet of Threnody soon to be ashes get your orders in drinks are free and the taxi home will drop you off in a random back alley somewhere enjoy the ride
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Yes join me on Threnody for the best and last night in the world and the worst hangover in the morning you wont have done anything and youll be somewhere completely random but in the meantime rave cause theres no tomorrow
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Yeah but you know regardless of the baseline alignment pre Intent Conversion I would say that so its not the most useful question Yeah thatd be nice yeah
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Hi hello Im Ruin hahaha evil laughter I destroyed Braize I need to destroy one more non Scadrial planet and Scadrial itself Im taking recommendations for what planet to destroy I think Nalthis Threnody Taldain are overall the least useful but Im down to hear arguments for against things so yeah also willing to take recommendations on murder but I do need at least four cycles of booked Shardic for my wincon so thats kind of important
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@DrakeMarshall if you Splinter Cultivation in containment then Shards cant be unsplintered and Hoids faction cant ever get their sudden death win con I mean it wasnt really a big concern but Splintered shards while a tragedy also are just easier to keep in containment cause it just takes the one turn @Ashbringer can Splintered Shards still come out of containment like normal cause like the rules say they cant be passed but can they still be gotten
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Honestly the only people who wouldnt really care about tapping for Shards be it for charges or the one fourth chance of getting it are the two people who arent researchers you know Hoid and Khriss and they have their own abilities while on Silverlight you know Hoid can tap to reduce the breach threshold and Khriss is basically researcher plus they can steal two charges so honestly like theres not really a reason why theyd leave and you know the researchers are there tapping shards and all that so the only people leaving Silverlight are the people going on the rave honestly like if anyone left besides Kasimir Id genuinely be surprised espeicaly since Roshars the prime non Silverlight destination for getting more charges
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World thoughts Silverlight is only good if youre a researcher and theres good trapped Shards left or if youve gotten a ton of power and youre looking to unleash it on players you dont know where they are sorta thing Roshar is like Silverlight Researcher but for everyone plus doc Braize is for dumping stockpiles excluding generous Shards its one per turn and ou cant do it when worldhipping so N3 shots fired sorta situation Scadrial s useful if youre expecting shots from Braize or Odium cause like hop there day shield there night Nalthis is standard vote manipultaion Threnodys more useful the less players are there and the more contentious the vote might be a decent place to hide if you dont want things poking you Taldains not the most useful in the world but I guess information can cross the realm of life and death with Returned so info dump everything you can I guess Sels a place to customize not gain In terms of powerful shards to have out Honors always good Meryc Ruin and Odium feel important mostly as just keep out of evil hands sort of thing in terms of ones that arent useful Cultivations repair splinters thing is only useful to Hoids group really um everything else is middling priority Ambition looks cool cause pipeline to the dead but more useful late game Something I didnt notice the first time um Bavadins a researcher which is cool um @Ashbringer do Autonomy Avatars count as living players for the purposes of countering the Chosen and Unity people and for 17th Shard kill them all Honestly for strategy people just do what they want and well probably end up with a fairly even spread but I guess well just see how the numbers turn out um I wanted to put more here but I honestly have so many tabs open I forgot about this one so Im going to post it before I forget about it agian and miss rollover bye
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"Mallard, you ask why anyone would be suspicious of you while listing the reasons why people are rightfully suspicious of you. Your lack of fervor for the empire is in and of itself a concern, even if you are not a traitor. How are we to distinguish the truly wicked from those who simply do not care if you give us nothing to distinguish yourself? Your motives and beliefs are opaque." Lieutenant Jiang Zhangrong sighed. "Furthermore, your obsession with seeming like a true Discovery Soldier in the eyes of others rather than wanting to be a true Discovery Soldier in your own heart is disconcerting at best." Zhangrong quietly wished that they could linger at the fringes until the hour concluded, but they had to be present enough to earn the Captain's favor. They'd already used up their goodwill in the first hour, and they would need all the goodwill they could muster as the night went on. To be second was to be scrutinized by friend and foe alike. There was still time, but little of it, and treachery like a noose strangled the good and the wicked. In the end, when weighed against the empire, every soldier was expendable. Even the second.
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"I find it somewhat noteworthy that Mallard immediately solicited me for the information I gained with the use of the signet ring, as though they had been avidly paying attention to the goings-on, but made no effort to announce their presence or offer thoughts." The Lieutenant frowned, studying the sleeping body of the new recruit. "Ultimately, we cannot gather information about someone who appears to be in a coma. Let the Captain take care of him." Mallard's non-presence was rather strange considering the threat to their life in the hour before. Simple disappearance from fear, or something much more sinister? Zhangrong glanced over their notes, written in a private cipher. The conversations of the previous hour, private meetings, and their own thoughts piled together to drive men to madness. They had some suspicions and some trusts, but they knew themself well enough to recognize that those opinions were built on an unsteady foundation. An instinctive distaste for ducks, a slight fondness for a specific variety of poetry, appreciation of those who took charge. None of those traits were inherent to either side, but it was what they thought, and fighting belief was like fighting the tide. They would push forward, for good or for ill.
